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Yeah. Hi, good afternoon everyone. Thank you

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so much for spending of an hour with us this

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afternoon. My name is Anita Walz. I'm the Oopen

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education, copyright and scholarly communications librarian here at Virginia

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Tech. Um My two collaborators in this event,

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our Deu Who and Tiffany Shou, um from technology

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enhanced learning and online strategies and the Center for instructional

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development and Educational Research. So, um, this

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is a joint event that we're putting together to bring

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dr Eddie Watson here from University of Georgia. Um

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and we hope that you get a chance to meet

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some new people around your table. Um, we

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will be handing out sign in sheet if you have

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not already signed in. Um, it's helpful for

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us to know um, that there's interest in these

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types of events. So, um, please do

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sign in if you have not already. Um Eddie

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Watson comes to us from University of Georgia. He

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has a long time hokey, he has his undergrad

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and PhD. I have four degrees from Virginia.

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Okay, I'll let him tell you about this.

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So, so welcome home. Um Eddie is the

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director of the Center for Teaching and Learning at University

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of Georgia. Um He also has spearheaded a program

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to um save students um about$2 billion as of

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spring 2016 on textbook costs. Um and he is

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here to talk with us as um instructional designers,

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librarians, um, faculty about how to support those

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that we work with on our campus. So give

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him a warm welcome and we'll take it away.

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Thank you. Um let me see which show of

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hands. How many of you were not at the

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morning talk? Okay. I'm gonna breeze through some

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stuff since it was like two thirds of you were

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here at the morning talk, a couple of questions

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that I um I was planning on covering questions that

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we covered this morning as well. So what are

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open head resources and Why is that? We are

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growing in popularity. So I probably spent about 15

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minutes kind of re going over those um, questions

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. But then I've got some new stuff. So

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if you were here this morning you can Hit the

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Snooze button for maybe 10 minutes and then I'll be

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on to some new stuff. The lovely to begin

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since we have some new faces here. Maybe you

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could chat at your table about why are you here

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today? And if you're at the table where you've

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already talked to the same folks this morning, feel

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free to jump tables. Uh no one will take

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any offense at that. You know, Gary got

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up and moved, go Gerry just wants to talk

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to somebody new. Take a couple of minutes chat

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with what brings you here today and then we'll debrief

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quick. No, basically here's just versus from my

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life that was was adapt to levels. Yeah.

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Yeah. Uh huh Yeah. Into 14 and the

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line and our library water right, really already decided

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to actually I'm not. Um, so I think

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they're really fantastic for a period. So I'm starting

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times. I'm like kind of the point for 17

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years. So develop their forces for, I think

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it is access, of course you're tested. But

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also, so I can Questions only one or 2

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ideas. Big man. Oh my God, you

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hear it? Okay. So anyone hear anything new

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from this morning? Since there's a lot of folks

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that are here from the morning session and you know

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what, your table share a new idea, like

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why they were here, what they're hoping to get

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out of the session? I heard the chatter,

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I really did. There was a little chatter here

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and there. So what brings you here today?

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Yes, I'll just take you up front internally.

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I guess I'm interested in how this intersects with research

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was him and knows it. There is that sort

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of thing. Is that people there were the sciences

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and Yes. Okay, well you're in the right

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place. I think you hear some interesting new ideas

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, probably a different perspective than what you heard from

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a couple weeks back. I read their abstract of

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what they covered. So I'm trying to take a

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little bit of a different, different angle in so

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this session can be different from this morning. This

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morning was more of a holistic overview of open education

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resources. This talk is going to be a little

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bit more specific. I guess my thought is the

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intended audience would probably be administrators or faculty developers or

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instructional designers or librarians. Just those that are kind

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of in the role of supporting what faculty do and

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faculty adoption of open education resources. So that's what

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we're talking about. I'll begin with sort of the

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overview again, about 15 minutes of that and then

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we'll get into who's using O. E. R

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. S and then how do we help faculty use

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and even author create open education resources? So that's

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, that's where we're headed. So you may recognize

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some of these slides for those who are here first

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thing. But what are open education resources? Probably

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the Hewlett Foundation's definition is the one that I see

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cited most often is kind of two core concepts in

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there. But really open education resources are teaching learning

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or research resources that reside in the public domain or

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through a license. They've been given a way for

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people to use. However they would like. The

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real key part of that license is that it permits

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whatever those materials are those teaching learning research materials,

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it permits their free use and also they're repurposing.

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So not only do you get to download something and

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use it however you'd like, you can actually go

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in and edit it, Change words, change the

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title, change page numbers, all that good stuff

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. Um, so you might imagine sort of almost

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anything can be an open education resource, whether it's

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a full course, like something you might find in

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water term moocs, massive, open online courses could

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be course materials modules, textbooks or what we've worked

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with most predominantly at the university Georgia. But there's

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lots of other things that are out there as well

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. Software could could be considered an open education resource

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if the license indeed allows you to download it,

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use it and and repurpose it. So there's been

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several initiatives that have kind of kicked off the open

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initiative. probably the initial notion came in 1994 with

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the notion learning objects where there might be some kind

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of compartmentalized tutorial or video or reading with a handout

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, that kind of stuff. But sometimes it's kind

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of like a little package, that thing, a

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learning object. And then the Merlot repository came around

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and that's where you can kind of place learning objects

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and other learning materials. There was a software,

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open source initiative called floss. And then, as

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people sort of got their act together about what it

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means for something to be free and open. There

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was a creative commons project that actually is now a

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license, it's a CC license and we'll talk more

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about that other projects as well in this first generation

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of press, what's really interesting about the first generation

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of projects that there wasn't a real uptake on them

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. A lot of people weren't putting high quality materials

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in the, into them very early on and then

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they weren't really well organized. It's kind of like

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looking through professors filing cap, there's some good stuff

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in there, but you've got to kind of look

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around and then make some choices about what you're gonna

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do. So right now, we know online there's

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tons of free stuff, lots of stuff that's very

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, very, very cheap, very affordable. I'm

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sure we probably all used Youtube videos in our facebook

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profiles and our core settings. All that good stuff

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. But things like Ted talks don't have, they

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would be considered an open educational resource because the license

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doesn't allow for free redistribution and editing. I mean

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, Ted actually kind of controls its content quite restrictive

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lee though you can go and look at it and

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view it and you can assign it in class,

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certainly, but you certainly could go in and edit

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one. And so lots of cool free stuff out

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there, but not all of them are open education

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resources. So the notion of open education resources really

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tied to the license. So when you think about

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really almost anything that's intellectual property item, it has

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two components. There's the copyright, So who owns

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it? But then the license says, how can

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it be used? And so if the license says

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that it's free and it's terrible and you can do

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things to which you can change it. You don't

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like certain elements, you can go in and delete

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them or adding your own content. Those are the

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open education resources, those things that are not free

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and shareable and valuable typically would be considered open education

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resources, kind of splitting a hair here. But

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a lot of stuff that's available, sort of freely

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available online would necessarily following this oh, we are

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domain. So why open educational resources? I think

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that there are three great challenges that we're facing in

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higher education today and this kind of map to a

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conversation that we had in the first session. But

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I think that most of us across higher recognized that

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completion students getting done in four years ideally. But

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we always talk about four and six year graduation rates

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and higher education. We also talk about the attainment

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gap, so how different ethnicities might be, um

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at what rates they're getting degrees from higher end.

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We also talked quite a bit about quality of learning

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and we also talked quite a bit about college affordability

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. So thinking about attainment levels, what does that

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really mean? What we see right now that different

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ethnicities are getting degrees at different rates. So looking

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at those that are 25 and older in the US

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. about a third of those over the age of

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25 that are white. Americans have degrees, it's

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much less at other ethnicities. So this is the

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attainment, it's like why why aren't we all kind

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of clustered together? Why are there these differences?

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So that's something that many of us are really concerned

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about. How do we close that gap? How

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do we get students to graduate in four years?

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How do we keep students in school? How do

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we keep them from dropping out? So all of

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those issues of just sort of getting through um Our

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our first big job another big challenges this notion of

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students who are adaptable ready for the real world.

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Um They've mastered the outcomes of their undergraduate experience,

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how do we make sure that they have good quality

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people talk about student success, it's kind of a

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euphemism because the student success in some circles really means

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for a six year graduation rates. Where I think

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what we really talk about student success, we we

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are concerned about students getting through on time, but

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we're also concerned about um you know what they know

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when they leave college, what they're capable of doing

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of student success as well, but all those things

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kind of tie to quality of learning and as examples

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of sort of the need to have students who are

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prepared for the real world. This is some data

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this year, but I think the research is actually

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the heart research group from 2014. But we continue

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to see that employers are wanting can sort of handle

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unstructured problems, more challenging kinds of problems. That's

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what the green is here. The maroon is students

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who can work with new information. Not surprisingly as

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the, and you see an article on that.

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our students to go into and be successfully. And

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that's what are the employers want. So, um

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maybe what we had just 20 or 30 years ago

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to me as the attainment shortfall. In fact,

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when Obama came president 2000 and nine, he said

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it's not enough for every one in America to have

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a high school degree. That's no longer what we

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aspire to. What we really need are college graduates

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with either two or four year degrees. So that's

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a real argument for certainly the payment shortfall. But

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also he wasn't saying we need to have two and

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four year degrees so that everyone has a piece of

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paper. It's what you can do what that represents

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. It's about the quality of the education to be

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able to meet the needs of of our nation and

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all nations moving forward. So Challenge three. And

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this is the one that speaks most closely to maybe

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open education resources initially, is this affordability challenge the

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cost of higher education. And I think this is

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the one that's that's even up most of the oxygen

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in the higher it discussion these days. This notion

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that because funding for higher education has diminished at public

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institutions, families and students are having to pick up

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that cost, so now that's really the dominant public

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concern. So, as some data to kind of

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support that narrative, these two charts one of the

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left that has mostly red, that shows the cut

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in state funding per student Between 2008 and 2013 by

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in Virginia, it's been a$2,000 decrease. And

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then on the right side here, you can see

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cut of public funding for higher education over that five

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year period, interestingly, we see the increases intuition

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period. And you can see Georgia is probably one

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of the top 10 Virginia's in the Top 15.

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of breaking even behind in Georgia, looking at Virginia

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zero sum game, these numbers have been adjusted for

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inflation. So we are keeping pace with inflation essentially

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playing this game Lose state dollars. It corresponds directly

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almost 1-1, almost a 1-1 direct relationship between dollars

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lost and the increase in tuition too students. So

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not surprisingly, we're seeing a 5 to 1 uh

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increase in tuition. 5 to 1 being the inflation

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rate for college tuition is five times that of inflation

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for everything else in America. And we see the

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we've got the number of the year 2000 and talked

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about quite a bit as if that's like the magic

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number. And of course that's when the great recession

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kind of really hit. But when you look at

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the hockey stick you know we dip into the upturn

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really take place. It was really about 2000 2001

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. That's when states began the slow de funding of

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public patient. Mhm. So as a result of

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that we've seen this increase of student debt. In

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fact collectively now in the U. S. There's

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more student debt than there is collectively auto loan debt

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or credit card debt. Um And this continues to

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climb. Of course these two kind of adjusted because

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we can make choices during the great recession not to

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buy cars and not to buy a new flat screen

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tv or whatever else you might put on our credit

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card. We could not make choices about, you

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know, our kids college tuition was a set fee

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that kept going up. So along the same times

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, in addition to tuition going up books that went

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up dramatically, there are king cost of medical services

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of books. And when you look at, at

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least at the University of Georgia, when you look

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at the per student costs at Georgia, the blue

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bar is tuition and then you've got in state fees

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which are state froze. Those about Jordan correlation is

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not causation of course. But you can see that

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there's the frozen feet, You can see the textbooks

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are down there about a, so, so at

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Georgia, probably textbooks represent maybe a little bit less

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than um, 10 of the cost of it is

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the cost of going to the University of Georgia.

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Probably Virginia Tech has similar this smaller schools. I

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think I read an article about the Textbook zero initiative

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a year or so ago at Tidewater Community College and

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they said it was 1/3 of the cost. So

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textbooks can't control textbooks, which you can certainly control

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tuition. These are very different mix at different types

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of schools. So when I think about the future

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of higher education, I think that institutions to approach

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those three big challenges need to develop a portfolio of

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strategies that will enable them to speak to completion rates

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, entertainment gap, the cost of higher education and

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the quality of learning. So there's lots of strategies

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that are out there and not all of them contribute

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to all three. So for us that you've got

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high impact practice is from that are promoted largely by

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the American Association of Colleges and Universities and large research

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basis for using their their 10 practices, incorporate those

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practices, their deep, rich pedagogical strategies that take

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place over an extended amount of time and mirror a

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lot of real world experience. So, um,

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so there's a set of strategies that institutions could employ

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, um, Georgia Cornell Ellen. Lots of different

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types of institutions have adopted experiential learning as a,

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as one of their strategy. Yeah, Also improved

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advising when you think about completion. That can really

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help if we had more advisors who are more integrated

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into student lives and then cut them, make the

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right decisions and not take courses that maybe they don't

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need or take the right course is in the right

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sequence. Is all of those things. I think

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we would all argue that advising could certainly help that

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four year graduation rate. I'm not sure that advising

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ties closely to um the quality of learning. I

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mean you're taking the right course is maybe it's the

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quality of the curriculum of the impacts, but it's

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not impacting faculty practice at all in the classroom.

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predictive analytics that you may hurt. May have heard

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some things about, but I would argue that VRS

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indeed actually impact all three of our greatest challenges and

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certainly affordability is the easiest one to see what I'll

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talk through this a little bit more dead. So

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why O. E. R. S. Well

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, there certainly cost. And we see from surveys

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on our campus that our students self report that they

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have unmet financial needs after all of the loans and

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grants that they might get the semester rules for.

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They have unmet financial needs. And we know that

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financially contributes to attrition and extended graduation rates. If

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you have to go from full or part time,

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that's certainly keep you in college longer while you work

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to make money for the next semester. And we

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are seeing female types of institution I guess. But

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we all see across institute Kind of the range for

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textbooks and other required materials. It's about$900 and

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$1,200 for students. And so it's textbooks, but

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also if you have to pay the the coach to

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gain access to my labs at Pearson or if you

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have to buy top hat or some other clicker technology

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, all of those things together Come to somewhere around

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$1,000 range for most students. So it could be

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that by replacing a lot of these materials with open

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education have a significant impact on college affordability and malnutrition

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rates. So that's one reason to kind of start

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thinking about Od ours a little bit more about quality

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of learning. So high textbook costs continue to deter

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students from purchasing text books in general. So even

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the required textbooks, they often won't make those purchases

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. And one survey survey, students across lots of

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different kinds of institutions heard in 14 65 percent of

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students said that they had decided against buying a textbook

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because it was too expensive. So two thirds of

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students reported that and almost all of them said when

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they did that they knew it was going to hurt

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their grade. This isn't a good idea, but

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it's too expensive. I can't afford it, but

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I'm, I'm not gonna buy it because I can't

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. Nearly half of all the students in this survey

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said that the cost of textbooks impacted which courses they

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took. And when they took courses, so you

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sign up for classes, it's your second semester and

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then you're in. Let's just take some classes that

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have expensive textbooks. Psychology taking psychology, you're taking

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, pick a science really? Mhm. And you

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go, wow this is an extra$700 I hadn't

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budgeted for. Haven't planned for since might drop one

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of those courses and then adjust their plan to study

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as a result of that, which of course contributes

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to completion rates and attrition. Um four out of

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five students. And that they would do better in

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a course if the materials were available for free.

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Now. I wonder what that connection is that they're

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making their, it's like wait a second. Uh

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But it could be that they know that they don't

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have to delay the purchase. You know, it

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could just be that they're trying to not have to

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make the purchase at all. But they're recognizing that

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there's, there's some sense of self belief regarding the

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value of O. E. R. S.

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I have my feet. So thinking about quality of

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learning. one thing I think is an argument for

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quality of learning whether or not it's whether it's free

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or not from a student perspective, is that on

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the first day of class, if it's a free

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open textbook, every student in the class has the

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materials for the course and Eugene left so I can't

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take on her, so I'll pick on peter but

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Peter and I both got like 1400. Our core

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? S 80 went to high school together. Peter

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we were Maryland, go crabs or over folks doing

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Maryland, But turtles, terrapins. Okay, go

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terribly. So we both got 1400. We both

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go to college together. We both sign up for

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intro biology. I'm having trouble making ends meets.

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I need to get a financial aid to get that

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text book or get funding for the textbook. You

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don't have a problem. You buy a text lucky

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dog. You've got six of the first day of

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class. I struggle with financial aid. I get

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it's funded, then I get the check and then

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I think the check to the bank and then I

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go to the books from my making me two weeks

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to do all of that, especially with the belly

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with financial aid. I bet because you had the

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materials on day one and I did. I bet

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you do better on the first test and I study

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hard. Oh no. But there's a really good

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argument that basically based on someone's socioeconomic class, you

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might be disadvantaged, especially during the first few weeks

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in the class. So I would argue that O

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ers are an equity minded strategy that O. E

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. R. S. R. And access and

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equal access to education strategy. So s faculty thought

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about this and thought through these ideas. Invariably we

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see that textbooks, whether you're looking at o er

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or whether you're looking at something produced by Pearson was

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engaged, you're always going to find issues with the

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books. You know, in fact, most publishers

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or many publishers will have sort of like a publication

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guy following the publication of the book. Like these

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are the areas that we found in. Here's the

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data for this book. Um So we had one

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factor who started using a free open textbook and she

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noted that, you know, an imperfect free textbook

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is a lot better than an imperfect, expensive textbook

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. So if you've got two options that are covering

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the same content, it can work for the course

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, Maybe the free option is the best one to

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go with. So I would also argue not just

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the quality of learning piece about um students all kind

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of materials at the same time without equity minded argument

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, but I would also say that there's a real

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opportunity with open education resources for institutional collaborations to form

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. So folks in the library and you're learning technologies

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groups and you're teaching and learning centers all working together

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, maybe to collaborate with the faculty member to go

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to change out the textbook. This real opportunity to

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rethink the course a little bit. So let's maybe

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articulating learning outcomes for Of course, that's helpful.

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We should talk about the association of active learning practices

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which we know are much more effective than passive learning

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strategies, like simple lecturing class after class, maybe

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pursuing flipping the classroom. I also think about structural

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design practices that this is another real opportunity and sort

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of improving courses is, you know, if someone

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switching out of textbook, we talk about learning outcomes

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were reordering things, let's make sure that what we

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say, we're going to teach the students, we

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indeed teach them and then we assess them on what

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we said, we were gonna teach that whole alignment

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. That whole backwards design approach is really, really

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important. So it's news, but if you use

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them through the first get there, but who is

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already using O ers? Well, the truth is

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, there's quality O ERs in many disciplines, many

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domains in higher education and, you know, depending

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on what you're looking for and what your discipline is

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, you may find that they're very easy to locate

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just some examples from various domains that we're using the

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University of Georgia. So there's an open education resource

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published by the University of florida press called theatrical worlds

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that are theater department is using at the intro level

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. We have some sophomore level education courses that are

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using a book that they self authored at the institution

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. There's lots of text books in the U.

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S. History domain. There's this american job,

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multi institutional collaborative with lots of faculty and grad students

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, doctoral students writing little bits of this thing and

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being sort of organized and now it's kind of turned

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into this whole that has a very strong sort of

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central narrative. So that's one option. Um The

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University Press of North Georgia, which is the is

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the University of North Georgia. Uh They wrote history

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in the making, they were funded from the university

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system of Georgia to author of US. Mhm.

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U. S. History textbook. There's also this

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open stacks college initiative. They also have a U

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. S. History textbooks. There's lots of options

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that have been through some level of period. So

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let me talk a little bit more about open stacks

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college. So currently they have 19 text books that

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are available and I've actually got there some cards.

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If you're curious what those are and you can see

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them located here. But as we move forward,

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I'll pass this around. Oh um Opus axis funded

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through a number of foundations including Gates, Hewlett and

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Arnold. As you look at this selection of books

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they're really targeting of disciplines that taught at most institutions

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. So you probably probably all institutions whether you're in

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a community college or are one, there are physics

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courses, they're they're sociology courses. There there is

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biology classes, statistics, those things like that.

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Their roadmap 25, they've got other books that they're

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in the process of developing. I think the remaining

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set is largely in the business. But you can

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see these Already exists. They are indeed entirely 100

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free to students free to faculty. They are thinking

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about the license for these and what it enables.

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You can actually, if you adopted one of these

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textbooks, you can change the text book. If

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you don't like chapter 13, you can delete chapter

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13, you can add in your own content,

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you can type in your own content. Um,

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and I'll repay originates. It's kind of like a

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sort of a learning management system wrapped around each textbook

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. And so if you go in and make a

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change, it becomes your textbook. So you're not

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making change Through the core textbook in this 19,

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but you can make changes to to your version of

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the textbook that you can then deep link into with

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your students. So this is kind of a low

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hanging fruit these days. So certainly you can find

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stuff out there. And I would say if you're

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here at the university at Virginia Tech almost did it

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again, you're here at Virginia Tech, you'd want

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to check in with Anita who has been sort of

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playing a lot of spending a lot of time sort

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of collecting these and knowing where the good resources are

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, you can definitely help you. Um, but

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if you have faculty interested in offering free open textbooks

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, you know, the offering task is it's a

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very sort of solo type project, but what if

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you were going to actually what can you provide?

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And in terms of support, and I would say

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one thing that you really want to do, there's

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probably two things, but one is to be sure

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you understand the technology platform that you're considering using to

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deliver your open education resource. So, for instance

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, Apple's ibooks author tool, incredible set of tools

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. But there's a point where if you start using

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some fairly sophisticated like video or uh, simulations or

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stuff like that, it will only work if someone

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has an ipad or has an Apple product. So

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if you started to invite someone off of their own

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book and they want to use Apple's tools, find

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out what tools, up to what point you can

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use this subset of tools that will work for everyone

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. So regardless of web browser or what kind of

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reader you might have, you want it to be

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able to to work. So So be a little

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leery of apple and other platforms. Just to make

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sure that you don't somehow sort of flip a switch

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where now everyone has to buy a$600 iPad to

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use your free textbook. So one thing you can

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think about also are explore the parameters of your universities

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, copyright expectations and this is something that we've been

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working through for several months at Georgia. Some institutions

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may be resistant to giving away intellectual property, um

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, for which they feel they have some level of

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an ownership stake. Um, Now, if you

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have a grant to write an open textbook and that's

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why you received the grant that paves the road for

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you. Like if the state paid you for something

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or foundation paid you for something, because those are

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the terms of the grant as you got into it

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. They were signed off on your pretty much good

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to go, at least at our institution. That's

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what we've been told. Your grant says you're writing

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and we are, we are. But if you

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decided you wanted to write a textbook for statics and

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engineering, uh, track down who is your institution

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kind of manages issues of what our folks our office

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is located in our, our office of the vice

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president for research. And they said any faculty member

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wanting to enter into an authoring project that they wanted

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to give away the rights the office wanted to evaluate

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commercial offer to versus public active. In other words

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, they want to make sure this isn't contain a

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wealth of opportunity to make some money. So yeah

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, we're just kind of getting down this road.

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This is the language that we're now providing faculty up

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front so that they can put together a crazy and

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abstract to give to the intellectual property office so that

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they can do their due diligence and so that they

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can sign off on the book being given away for

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free before it's even written. Yes. So we've

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been told by legal that's members want to license.

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It's up to their department. So have long conversations

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go, yeah, this maybe purpose. Yeah,

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yeah. It's a brave new world in every institution

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is going to have a different strategy. In fact

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, I like this far more with the department and

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their faculty get to make a decision rather than an

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intellectual property committee. But yeah, so I was

625
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talking earlier about this notion of copyright versus licenses,

626
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We've also been told that the fact that you're going

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to author o ers the copyright regardless of what the

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licenses the copyright right will resign with the University of

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Georgia. In fact, we've been given the state

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of what what that looks like. So the copyright

631
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is indeed the University of Georgia's though the license might

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be anyone can use it for free. Might indeed

633
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be an o er, but I think sort of

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negotiating that out what that second part looks like.

635
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I know what our institutions, yeah. Devils and

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those details. So anyone that's thinking about entering writing

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, Oh, er, I think this is the

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something to let them know about right off the bat

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. I mean, as I was talking with the

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, with our lawyer, I said, well,

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what if someone decided to go off the grid,

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they go and they buy their own computer and they

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do it at home and they, you know,

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And part of the argument was, well, you

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know, faculty aren't on a 40 hour a week

646
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job, it's kind of like they're working for the

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university. And so even if it's on your own

648
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computer, there might be some questions. Of course

649
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, every institution has a different perspective on this.

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And it's certainly evolving at our institution. That would

651
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just say, if you're thinking about writing one,

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go ahead and have the conversation with with your I

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. P. Folks, it sounds like your library

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is already kind of ahead of the game on sort

655
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of like figuring out what those guidelines are on that

656
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. We we went back and forth with a word

657
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file several times now regarding language to give faculty.

658
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So we want to be able to advise faculty from

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square one. Look, these are the things that

660
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you need to really think about as you move forward

661
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. So what might a model look like for supporting

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faculty adoption of o er and this is the sort

663
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of the yoga cassette? Well, so our idea

664
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was to really kind of go from single faculty member

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from single to single faculty member to think that if

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we could find faculty who teach high enrollment courses and

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also are using an expensive textbooks, Just that formula

668
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of like$200 textbook times, 2000 students that could

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have a huge, huge financial impacts like this economies

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of scale, right? Where just the number of

671
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students represented by a single faculty member could result in

672
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collective large amount of state. So that's where we

673
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kind of got started. We received a grant from

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the university system of Georgia late when halfway through the

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summer. And it basically just funded a graduate assistant

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that we then partnered with a faculty member in Biology

677
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. The fact that number was selected based on really

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three ideas. Are you using an expensive textbook?

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Is it you teach a large class where you teach

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several sections of a large class. That would even

681
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help the numbers get up there even higher. They

682
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were also looking for someone who had opinion leadership so

683
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that there would be this real sense of like,

684
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okay if this person is doing, I'm not considered

685
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in my class. So the person we selected,

686
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it won awards for teaching and research has just been

687
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made a mix professor on our campus. And That's

688
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that was the first person that we worked with in

689
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2013 2014. So of course we were first working

690
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with with Biology 1103, but due to their opinion

691
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leadership, those who teach the follow up section 1104

692
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also got on board where working with us on this

693
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transition. So these are the courses and the numbers

694
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of students that we were looking at. So it

695
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was a biology concepts of biology textbook Of course with

696
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about 1200 1300 students. And then the follow up

697
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course. Biology 1104 had about 750 students. So

698
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depending on the student's path, they may take the

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follow up course or they may just get the three

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credits for the concepts of biology. Yeah. So

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we were thinking, wow, all sections and no

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one ever dropped a glass And all sections together.

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We were looking at just over 2000 students and we're

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replacing a moderately expensive textbook. It was discovered biology

705
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. But for me it was a little bit of

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a trade off, I thought because we had a

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few other candidates, but because of that fact remembers

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opinion leadership and how well she is respected and lots

709
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of circles on campus. I thought, you know

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, let's go with replaced a little bit less expensive

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textbook because we're going to gain by having someone who

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has that level of opinion, leadership chatting about it

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on campus. So that's what we did. We

714
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went with open stacks and again it's uh oh er

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so that means you can not only just use it

716
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for free, you can make changes to it and

717
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as things developed, we ended up using both of

718
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the biology books. She liked the way that some

719
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topics were shown in one area and the way that

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other topics were described in in the other textbooks.

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So we kind of blended the two together. We

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used to look for the same course, fortunately,

723
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you know, I guess biology, when you look

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at all of the textbooks, kind of the scope

725
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and sequence for intro biology is pretty much the same

726
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across the board. So as we were thinking about

727
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course revision, it wasn't a major overhaul, it

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was still intro to biology and the content flow was

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similar. So the process wasn't as arduous as it

730
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could have been. So through combining those two books

731
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, this was the interface of the screen capture here

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of the book that combine the two textbooks. So

733
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we were able to brand it university of Georgia.

734
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We were able to put her name on the book

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. Of course, all of the other copyright elements

736
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are part of this as well. But when a

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student goes to open stacks and searches for University of

738
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Georgia biology, they find this or the there's now

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probably three or 4 faculty that are teaching using this

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, but this makes it very customized for the individual

741
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course for the individual faculty member. So our process

742
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, our support model looked like we had an instructional

743
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designer that basically that's where all of our grant funding

744
00:41:09.829 --> 00:41:13.159 A:middle L:90%
went was just two G. A. Who was

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a doctoral student in the College of Education and instructional

746
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design. So an instructional designer and they were essentially

747
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given over to the faculty member and the fact that

748
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we could use them. However they would lie.

749
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The instructional designer did a lot of project management.

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Like here's the timeline, this is how we're going

751
00:41:30.449 --> 00:41:35.639 A:middle L:90%
to accomplish things method after the whole first semester because

752
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we stayed about three about three three weeks ahead of

753
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the students. So this process of redesigning, we

754
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were just barely staying ahead and you know for the

755
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fact remember doing it if she was trying to make

756
00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:51.199 A:middle L:90%
that transition by herself that would have been a really

757
00:41:51.210 --> 00:41:52.989 A:middle L:90%
arduous process. But now we have someone who's building

758
00:41:52.989 --> 00:41:58.050 A:middle L:90%
things in the learning management system and ah if you'd

759
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like to see the specific textbook that we've got,

760
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:04.730 A:middle L:90%
the Bentley slash DJ. Dash concepts of biology,

761
00:42:05.099 --> 00:42:06.550 A:middle L:90%
go to that or just search for it in the

762
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open sacks take you, I think you're right to

763
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it. So our approach also in addition to have

764
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that those elements of course would be the instructional design

765
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elements of the quality notion being improved through instructional design

766
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processes. We also use our learning management system to

767
00:42:24.750 --> 00:42:29.489 A:middle L:90%
build modules that students could then go to for each

768
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week. Of course. You know what the learning

769
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outcomes were, what the readings were, what any

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ancillary materials were. So here's a screen capture,

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I've got rid of the heading and everything that made

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it look pretty has been clipped off so that you

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could actually see what's in here. But here you

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can see we've got the the learning objectives here,

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the readings from on the open stocks textbook. There

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are links to videos, there's a pre class self

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quiz and there are some slides, there's also some

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assessments that are linked on this page. So from

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a student perspective, you kind of dropped into this

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. Here's everything that you need. All your materials

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are in one place. And so building this kind

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of stuff throughout the learning management system was part of

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what the obstruction designer, the innovative. It's one

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thing to think about building this in the LMS and

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every element is different. Different certainly. But sometimes

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you end up struggling more with format and layout and

787
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things like that. Can you do with your content

788
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? So having someone that knew the learning management systems

789
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, save the professor of a lot of time,

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just this one single course. So that's kind of

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00:43:35.909 --> 00:43:37.960 A:middle L:90%
a structure that the entirety of the course looked like

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00:43:37.969 --> 00:43:43.199 A:middle L:90%
objectives, readings, ancillary materials and then some quiz

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00:43:43.199 --> 00:43:45.260 A:middle L:90%
options. So one of the things that we discovered

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00:43:45.260 --> 00:43:49.530 A:middle L:90%
very quickly that our initial idea was, let's just

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see if we can play the numbers game and save

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a lot, a lot of students, a lot

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of money. But this we discovered that this whole

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process of sorcery design launch the fact that member into

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this process of rethinking a number of elements of the

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course. Well, I've got this now, would

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I do it differently this way or do that differently

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00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:08.750 A:middle L:90%
? And so a lot of people from within my

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00:44:08.750 --> 00:44:14.920 A:middle L:90%
sinners, so learning technology specialist pedagogy specialists, um

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00:44:15.389 --> 00:44:17.570 A:middle L:90%
educational research specialists were kind of pulled on for many

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00:44:17.570 --> 00:44:21.739 A:middle L:90%
consulting things. We sit down. I remember two

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or three conversations that I had with Peggy where we

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00:44:22.750 --> 00:44:24.579 A:middle L:90%
were just talking what if you try this in your

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00:44:24.579 --> 00:44:27.519 A:middle L:90%
advisor room if you did this differently? I mean

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00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:30.300 A:middle L:90%
it was a giant one of those classrooms has got

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00:44:30.309 --> 00:44:31.610 A:middle L:90%
kind of seats, anything like this, but you

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00:44:31.610 --> 00:44:34.349 A:middle L:90%
know we were talking about using small groups and having

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00:44:34.349 --> 00:44:36.429 A:middle L:90%
students turn around and talk to those in the row

813
00:44:36.429 --> 00:44:38.329 A:middle L:90%
behind them even though it was it's but it gave

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us a lot of opportunity. Think about content ordering

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, think about how you might do pedagogy different,

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how we might do assessment different differently. I think

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you've got the instruction design expertise that we're making sure

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that all these great alignment, things that we love

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about backward design, structural design were indeed a part

820
00:44:55.400 --> 00:44:59.219 A:middle L:90%
of the course. So it's not just about saving

821
00:44:59.219 --> 00:45:01.820 A:middle L:90%
students money, it's indeed about the quality of learning

822
00:45:01.820 --> 00:45:07.960 A:middle L:90%
improving the course where the transition took place. So

823
00:45:07.969 --> 00:45:15.420 A:middle L:90%
some evaluation data um overall from faculty, the sense

824
00:45:15.420 --> 00:45:16.929 A:middle L:90%
of quality, these are certainly the pros and cons

825
00:45:16.929 --> 00:45:20.030 A:middle L:90%
that they shared. They said that the o er

826
00:45:20.030 --> 00:45:22.389 A:middle L:90%
wasn't perfect but it's a free and perfect textbooks better

827
00:45:22.389 --> 00:45:28.050 A:middle L:90%
than expensive, perfect text. There are things that

828
00:45:28.059 --> 00:45:29.940 A:middle L:90%
aren't parts or at least at this point there were

829
00:45:29.940 --> 00:45:31.550 A:middle L:90%
the open sex has built more of these pieces in

830
00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:32.869 A:middle L:90%
. But you know there were a lot of end

831
00:45:32.869 --> 00:45:36.539 A:middle L:90%
of chapter questions and no text think and not a

832
00:45:36.539 --> 00:45:39.179 A:middle L:90%
cd with a bunch of power point presentations. Well

833
00:45:39.179 --> 00:45:43.099 A:middle L:90%
the faculty noted that most of those materials are really

834
00:45:43.099 --> 00:45:45.210 A:middle L:90%
, really terrible anyways that you get from the publisher

835
00:45:45.590 --> 00:45:47.500 A:middle L:90%
. So they didn't like they were necessarily missing all

836
00:45:47.500 --> 00:45:52.139 A:middle L:90%
that much. Someone knew that that it was really

837
00:45:52.139 --> 00:45:53.750 A:middle L:90%
nice having a dedicated G. A. That one

838
00:45:53.750 --> 00:45:58.119 A:middle L:90%
on one help was very valuable. That was more

839
00:45:58.119 --> 00:46:00.199 A:middle L:90%
helpful than if the CTL had offered a series of

840
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:02.480 A:middle L:90%
workshops on course redesign or whatever we might have provided

841
00:46:02.489 --> 00:46:06.710 A:middle L:90%
to kind of educate them so that they can do

842
00:46:06.710 --> 00:46:09.510 A:middle L:90%
it themselves. And there's also a note about how

843
00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:12.449 A:middle L:90%
a lot of us build our courses and that if

844
00:46:12.449 --> 00:46:15.690 A:middle L:90%
your course isn't the textbook, you're not just building

845
00:46:15.699 --> 00:46:19.579 A:middle L:90%
the course off of chapter one, chapter two,

846
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:21.369 A:middle L:90%
chapter three, well that's week one and that's week

847
00:46:21.380 --> 00:46:22.349 A:middle L:90%
two and that's we through the course. If you

848
00:46:22.349 --> 00:46:24.659 A:middle L:90%
build the course that needs to be taught given the

849
00:46:24.670 --> 00:46:28.219 A:middle L:90%
curriculum that you have, then the textbook is more

850
00:46:28.219 --> 00:46:30.460 A:middle L:90%
of a resource that supports the course that you developed

851
00:46:30.469 --> 00:46:34.719 A:middle L:90%
rather than the textbook, almost replacing the course or

852
00:46:34.730 --> 00:46:37.909 A:middle L:90%
being of course. So if you're sort of,

853
00:46:37.579 --> 00:46:40.889 A:middle L:90%
if you're following the latter model, then switching out

854
00:46:40.900 --> 00:46:45.500 A:middle L:90%
textbooks really isn't that difficult for these biology faculty who

855
00:46:45.510 --> 00:46:47.260 A:middle L:90%
taught the course several times and they kind of had

856
00:46:47.269 --> 00:46:50.670 A:middle L:90%
the biology course that they've always liked switching up the

857
00:46:50.679 --> 00:46:53.480 A:middle L:90%
textbooks wasn't necessarily that difficult, it was just articulated

858
00:46:53.489 --> 00:46:57.860 A:middle L:90%
things that maybe they hadn't articulated before, such as

859
00:46:57.860 --> 00:47:00.230 A:middle L:90%
learning outcomes. And we learned from talking with the

860
00:47:00.230 --> 00:47:02.010 A:middle L:90%
students that students would study based off of the learning

861
00:47:02.010 --> 00:47:05.670 A:middle L:90%
outcomes. In fact, our first iteration through that

862
00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:08.480 A:middle L:90%
first fall semester, one thing we discovered was students

863
00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:10.900 A:middle L:90%
were doing really, really well on the test,

864
00:47:12.579 --> 00:47:15.230 A:middle L:90%
on the items that were, that would have mapped

865
00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:19.800 A:middle L:90%
back to the learning outcomes, but previously, because

866
00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:22.219 A:middle L:90%
the factory was doing things in the class that learning

867
00:47:22.219 --> 00:47:24.349 A:middle L:90%
outcomes weren't necessarily articulated for, students were a little

868
00:47:24.349 --> 00:47:27.750 A:middle L:90%
frustrated on the first or second test because we didn't

869
00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:30.639 A:middle L:90%
have outcomes for the class material. It was mostly

870
00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:34.800 A:middle L:90%
just the, the online materials, the textbook materials

871
00:47:35.179 --> 00:47:37.420 A:middle L:90%
. So we quickly fix that and make sure that

872
00:47:37.420 --> 00:47:38.809 A:middle L:90%
we have learning objectives that covered every part of the

873
00:47:38.820 --> 00:47:43.429 A:middle L:90%
class. So the videos, the readings, uh

874
00:47:43.440 --> 00:47:45.559 A:middle L:90%
, in class activities and the lecture pieces, which

875
00:47:45.570 --> 00:47:51.400 A:middle L:90%
that's what good course redesigned looks like. So our

876
00:47:51.409 --> 00:47:54.269 A:middle L:90%
outcomes from this project the first year, It turns

877
00:47:54.269 --> 00:47:58.159 A:middle L:90%
out that we had about 1600 students just over 600

878
00:47:58.159 --> 00:47:59.380 A:middle L:90%
and so it's a little bit less than we had

879
00:47:59.380 --> 00:48:01.360 A:middle L:90%
hoped for. But as a result Of those students

880
00:48:01.369 --> 00:48:06.389 A:middle L:90%
, we estimate that we saved just under$160 for

881
00:48:06.389 --> 00:48:09.289 A:middle L:90%
students. And then thinking about since 2013. Now

882
00:48:09.869 --> 00:48:13.570 A:middle L:90%
with no new investment on our part, because the

883
00:48:13.579 --> 00:48:15.719 A:middle L:90%
faculty continue to use that same free open textbook,

884
00:48:15.730 --> 00:48:21.400 A:middle L:90%
we're almost at a half million dollars in collective savings

885
00:48:21.769 --> 00:48:24.789 A:middle L:90%
Because of one faculty member adopting one open free text

886
00:48:25.469 --> 00:48:29.920 A:middle L:90%
. Now, this was off of the$25,000 investment

887
00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:32.190 A:middle L:90%
, that's all that we put towards this course redesign

888
00:48:32.670 --> 00:48:37.699 A:middle L:90%
. So that's why I wanted 20-1 return on investment

889
00:48:37.369 --> 00:48:39.320 A:middle L:90%
. If we could, I could retire tomorrow,

890
00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:40.780 A:middle L:90%
if I could find another one of these in the

891
00:48:40.780 --> 00:48:43.469 A:middle L:90%
real world that I could do rather than in higher

892
00:48:43.469 --> 00:48:45.030 A:middle L:90%
education. So these things are going to continue to

893
00:48:45.030 --> 00:48:47.559 A:middle L:90%
multiply without us having to do anything, you know

894
00:48:47.570 --> 00:48:51.019 A:middle L:90%
, as long as the faculty continue to use that

895
00:48:51.030 --> 00:48:53.469 A:middle L:90%
free open text. So we've gotten a lot of

896
00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:57.559 A:middle L:90%
press as a result of this and positive pr for

897
00:48:57.559 --> 00:49:00.559 A:middle L:90%
the institutions are local newspaper has covered it and I

898
00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:05.360 A:middle L:90%
was interviewed by CNN about textbooks and our you got

899
00:49:05.380 --> 00:49:07.989 A:middle L:90%
that Virginia tech magazine, the alumni magazine, we've

900
00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:10.260 A:middle L:90%
got the University of Georgia magazine, Nine magazine for

901
00:49:10.260 --> 00:49:12.940 A:middle L:90%
the university. They did a story on us.

902
00:49:13.329 --> 00:49:15.690 A:middle L:90%
The student newspaper is sort of recursive lee doing stories

903
00:49:15.690 --> 00:49:20.969 A:middle L:90%
about open education resources. So there's lots of lots

904
00:49:20.969 --> 00:49:24.769 A:middle L:90%
of positive feelings about this particular project Um, since

905
00:49:24.769 --> 00:49:29.070 A:middle L:90%
2013 and 2014 we've received a total of five sort

906
00:49:29.070 --> 00:49:30.739 A:middle L:90%
of mini grants from the state, but one of

907
00:49:30.750 --> 00:49:34.369 A:middle L:90%
them, one of those five was the next generation

908
00:49:34.369 --> 00:49:37.320 A:middle L:90%
courseware grant from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and

909
00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:40.530 A:middle L:90%
collectively through this work and other project. Other things

910
00:49:40.530 --> 00:49:44.960 A:middle L:90%
that my centres funded We've impacted were estimated at around

911
00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:49.010 A:middle L:90%
21,000 students. And say as of the spring semester

912
00:49:49.019 --> 00:49:51.539 A:middle L:90%
, assuming people continue to go and do what they're

913
00:49:51.550 --> 00:49:53.690 A:middle L:90%
doing now, We estimate that we will have saved

914
00:49:53.699 --> 00:49:58.699 A:middle L:90%
students approximately two million in text book um fees.

915
00:49:59.769 --> 00:50:00.809 A:middle L:90%
So we're continuing as we're moving forward, we continue

916
00:50:00.809 --> 00:50:05.190 A:middle L:90%
to source target this large enrollment courses using expensive textbooks

917
00:50:05.659 --> 00:50:09.280 A:middle L:90%
. These are among the disciplines that we're working with

918
00:50:09.289 --> 00:50:13.119 A:middle L:90%
. History, Biology, major denominators courses, theater

919
00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:16.170 A:middle L:90%
, psychology, sociology, Anatomy and physiology have adopted

920
00:50:16.179 --> 00:50:21.489 A:middle L:90%
open stacks or other o ers that we've discovered and

921
00:50:21.860 --> 00:50:24.190 A:middle L:90%
shared with faculty and they spend some time. So

922
00:50:25.059 --> 00:50:30.340 A:middle L:90%
this is kind of where we are um any questions

923
00:50:30.340 --> 00:50:35.110 A:middle L:90%
about our process or what we've been doing or about

924
00:50:35.110 --> 00:50:37.349 A:middle L:90%
the larger topic of supporting faculty as they move through

925
00:50:37.349 --> 00:50:45.690 A:middle L:90%
these processes? Or have I spoke with unbelievable clarity

926
00:50:46.159 --> 00:50:51.880 A:middle L:90%
. Mhm. So what's up next? And instead

927
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:55.559 A:middle L:90%
just for, well the Gates Foundation this semester was

928
00:50:55.559 --> 00:50:59.300 A:middle L:90%
able to hire a postdoc, so someone that's working

929
00:50:59.309 --> 00:51:01.789 A:middle L:90%
full time for two years and we're kind of leveraging

930
00:51:01.789 --> 00:51:04.900 A:middle L:90%
the goals of the Gates Foundation, which is really

931
00:51:04.900 --> 00:51:08.559 A:middle L:90%
around adaptive learning built upon open textbooks. So we've

932
00:51:08.559 --> 00:51:15.900 A:middle L:90%
been going to new faculty and engaging them with the

933
00:51:15.900 --> 00:51:20.050 A:middle L:90%
Gates project. And while Gates wants us to study

934
00:51:20.059 --> 00:51:22.400 A:middle L:90%
these adaptive tools, will faculty have to have adopted

935
00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:24.389 A:middle L:90%
the textbooks first? So we're kind of able to

936
00:51:25.659 --> 00:51:29.599 A:middle L:90%
creatively extend the work that we've already done around,

937
00:51:29.610 --> 00:51:30.920 A:middle L:90%
we are adoption. Um So that's where we are

938
00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:32.860 A:middle L:90%
right now. We're working the disciplines that we're working

939
00:51:32.869 --> 00:51:37.739 A:middle L:90%
with now with the Gates Foundation are sociology, which

940
00:51:37.739 --> 00:51:42.989 A:middle L:90%
that will be live in the spring and majors Biology

941
00:51:44.059 --> 00:51:45.829 A:middle L:90%
. Yeah, that's what the adaptive stuff is going

942
00:51:45.829 --> 00:51:50.570 A:middle L:90%
on. Yeah. Yes. Okay. I understand

943
00:51:50.579 --> 00:51:52.530 A:middle L:90%
. Some of the text books are physical objects that

944
00:51:52.530 --> 00:51:55.489 A:middle L:90%
some of these materials are online. Does that mean

945
00:51:57.460 --> 00:52:01.260 A:middle L:90%
get um Well it's yes to the latter question.

946
00:52:01.269 --> 00:52:04.960 A:middle L:90%
Not there, you can't get a physical textbook.

947
00:52:04.969 --> 00:52:06.909 A:middle L:90%
Most students and most of them are using them as

948
00:52:06.920 --> 00:52:09.019 A:middle L:90%
online text books, e books. So. But

949
00:52:09.019 --> 00:52:12.929 A:middle L:90%
yes, they're available to anywhere to anyone in the

950
00:52:12.940 --> 00:52:25.690 A:middle L:90%
world entirely free. Yes. Mhm. Well,

951
00:52:25.690 --> 00:52:29.489 A:middle L:90%
I think that we find at our exhibition that's really

952
00:52:29.489 --> 00:52:30.949 A:middle L:90%
what you see anyways, is that most faculty write

953
00:52:30.949 --> 00:52:35.639 A:middle L:90%
their own tests and quizzes and everyone's all they like

954
00:52:35.650 --> 00:52:38.539 A:middle L:90%
mine. It comes with the textbook but for the

955
00:52:38.539 --> 00:52:43.059 A:middle L:90%
most part they're offering most. Yeah. Anyway,

956
00:52:45.550 --> 00:52:47.599 A:middle L:90%
as well as we talked about test bank options,

957
00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:51.519 A:middle L:90%
that open stacks. Yeah. Our fact, they

958
00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:52.760 A:middle L:90%
seem to be a little itchy about that. Built

959
00:52:52.769 --> 00:52:54.579 A:middle L:90%
this stuff already. I'd rather just kind of mapped

960
00:52:54.579 --> 00:52:59.260 A:middle L:90%
the reading to my, I know what my horse

961
00:52:59.650 --> 00:53:02.690 A:middle L:90%
rather than changing my course based on the assessments and

962
00:53:02.690 --> 00:53:07.210 A:middle L:90%
want to inherit from open side. There's a c

963
00:53:07.210 --> 00:53:09.980 A:middle L:90%
wisdom in both both paths, you know? But

964
00:53:12.250 --> 00:53:13.719 A:middle L:90%
yeah, man, I know. They're just in

965
00:53:13.719 --> 00:53:16.550 A:middle L:90%
the last couple of weeks fact just uh huh.

966
00:53:17.050 --> 00:53:19.599 A:middle L:90%
And they may build this stuff, but I don't

967
00:53:19.599 --> 00:53:22.699 A:middle L:90%
really want to use that stuff. I've already Building

968
00:53:22.699 --> 00:53:25.000 A:middle L:90%
my own test bank and the already management system now

969
00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:28.929 A:middle L:90%
for 10 years, man, I just want to

970
00:53:28.929 --> 00:53:32.480 A:middle L:90%
make sure that their readings prepare students for what I'm

971
00:53:32.849 --> 00:53:38.980 A:middle L:90%
class that only assess that alignment issues. Yes.

972
00:53:39.650 --> 00:53:52.019 A:middle L:90%
Are you kind of is here, Well, one

973
00:53:52.019 --> 00:53:53.659 A:middle L:90%
thing is that sometimes when I talk about this,

974
00:53:53.670 --> 00:53:58.059 A:middle L:90%
people think, wow you$2 million, Like 30

975
00:53:58.070 --> 00:54:00.750 A:middle L:90%
classes that you've transitioned, it's really like only eight

976
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:02.840 A:middle L:90%
. The textbooks are so expensive and these are large

977
00:54:02.849 --> 00:54:06.539 A:middle L:90%
intro classes. So There are eight faculty that we

978
00:54:06.550 --> 00:54:09.679 A:middle L:90%
worked with that brought us to those level of savings

979
00:54:09.690 --> 00:54:12.469 A:middle L:90%
. Of course, the fact that he's lots of

980
00:54:12.940 --> 00:54:15.860 A:middle L:90%
10s of thousands of students. So we have,

981
00:54:16.239 --> 00:54:21.239 A:middle L:90%
each semester we've had, I guess we've had a

982
00:54:21.250 --> 00:54:22.909 A:middle L:90%
different G. A. Each academic year, I

983
00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:28.190 A:middle L:90%
think. Yeah, we've had so, you know

984
00:54:28.190 --> 00:54:29.570 A:middle L:90%
, we have we have the good fortune of having

985
00:54:29.570 --> 00:54:32.460 A:middle L:90%
a process when so many who was phenomenal. She

986
00:54:34.039 --> 00:54:36.289 A:middle L:90%
before she graduates, she had written articles with tom

987
00:54:36.289 --> 00:54:37.340 A:middle L:90%
Reeves and other big names in the field. So

988
00:54:37.340 --> 00:54:40.760 A:middle L:90%
she, we've got, we were very fortunate with

989
00:54:40.760 --> 00:54:43.840 A:middle L:90%
our first to, so we had her right of

990
00:54:43.849 --> 00:54:45.139 A:middle L:90%
her processes. So what does this look like?

991
00:54:45.150 --> 00:54:47.030 A:middle L:90%
I got a little manual. And so when the

992
00:54:47.030 --> 00:54:49.420 A:middle L:90%
next G. A. Came in, we kind

993
00:54:49.420 --> 00:54:50.769 A:middle L:90%
of gave him Emmanuel said this is the kind of

994
00:54:50.769 --> 00:54:52.260 A:middle L:90%
stuff that happens and so you want to stop by

995
00:54:52.260 --> 00:54:53.329 A:middle L:90%
and see me once a week and talk about,

996
00:54:53.340 --> 00:54:54.860 A:middle L:90%
you know, just kind of map out. So

997
00:54:54.860 --> 00:54:58.969 A:middle L:90%
we had a little bit of a process that we

998
00:54:58.980 --> 00:55:00.610 A:middle L:90%
we develop because each faction members different and what they

999
00:55:00.619 --> 00:55:04.199 A:middle L:90%
feel that they need is different. Like like our

1000
00:55:04.210 --> 00:55:07.980 A:middle L:90%
first biology remember really kind of wanted someone shoulder to

1001
00:55:07.980 --> 00:55:09.159 A:middle L:90%
shoulder and then in my class I'd like you I

1002
00:55:09.159 --> 00:55:10.670 A:middle L:90%
want you to know what I'm doing so that as

1003
00:55:10.670 --> 00:55:14.690 A:middle L:90%
you build this stuff fix things, you'll have a

1004
00:55:14.699 --> 00:55:17.360 A:middle L:90%
better sense of other faculty like a psychology for instance

1005
00:55:17.360 --> 00:55:20.130 A:middle L:90%
, we have someone who is very much I want

1006
00:55:20.130 --> 00:55:22.769 A:middle L:90%
to build it myself. And so the instructional designer

1007
00:55:22.780 --> 00:55:24.530 A:middle L:90%
has less of a role I think in that course

1008
00:55:24.530 --> 00:55:29.010 A:middle L:90%
. But there's still project management, there's still time

1009
00:55:29.010 --> 00:55:34.449 A:middle L:90%
lining stuff of, there's still instructional design processes and

1010
00:55:34.449 --> 00:55:36.369 A:middle L:90%
looking at the line issues and things like that.

1011
00:55:36.380 --> 00:55:38.460 A:middle L:90%
So, you know, I think that I'm less

1012
00:55:38.460 --> 00:55:43.590 A:middle L:90%
worried about variation in mind, uh Jas, I'm

1013
00:55:43.590 --> 00:55:46.829 A:middle L:90%
more worried about variations and individual faculty and what they

1014
00:55:46.840 --> 00:55:50.570 A:middle L:90%
need and what their work processes are because they're not

1015
00:55:50.570 --> 00:55:53.070 A:middle L:90%
all the same and I don't think it's a disciplinary

1016
00:55:53.079 --> 00:55:57.099 A:middle L:90%
difference necessarily. I think it's just some people are

1017
00:55:57.110 --> 00:55:59.300 A:middle L:90%
have always, you know, you've been the lone

1018
00:55:59.300 --> 00:56:01.480 A:middle L:90%
wolf, you receive tenure as a lone wolf,

1019
00:56:01.489 --> 00:56:04.289 A:middle L:90%
you continue to work as a lone wolf, you

1020
00:56:04.289 --> 00:56:06.690 A:middle L:90%
might have collaborations here and there and so some people

1021
00:56:06.690 --> 00:56:08.380 A:middle L:90%
have that mindset and others are very collaborative and are

1022
00:56:08.389 --> 00:56:10.500 A:middle L:90%
happy to let someone get under the hood and get

1023
00:56:10.500 --> 00:56:14.420 A:middle L:90%
into their course in the LMS and make changes for

1024
00:56:14.420 --> 00:56:15.349 A:middle L:90%
them. They're more than happy to have someone else

1025
00:56:16.030 --> 00:56:21.840 A:middle L:90%
built pieces within. Just send send so many like

1026
00:56:21.849 --> 00:56:24.269 A:middle L:90%
to links and then place these in the appropriate place

1027
00:56:24.269 --> 00:56:27.139 A:middle L:90%
in the LMS and go and build it where others

1028
00:56:27.139 --> 00:56:29.829 A:middle L:90%
are. Like that makes the itchy. I want

1029
00:56:29.829 --> 00:56:30.449 A:middle L:90%
to do it to make sure it looks exactly the

1030
00:56:30.449 --> 00:56:32.440 A:middle L:90%
right way. So I think, you know,

1031
00:56:32.440 --> 00:56:36.730 A:middle L:90%
construction design processes, it's not rocket science for sure

1032
00:56:36.739 --> 00:56:39.619 A:middle L:90%
. Um So I think it's more like seeing the

1033
00:56:39.619 --> 00:56:42.809 A:middle L:90%
dynamic of the fact of the member and making sure

1034
00:56:42.809 --> 00:56:45.530 A:middle L:90%
that you meet them where they are rather than trying

1035
00:56:45.530 --> 00:56:51.429 A:middle L:90%
to contort them towards our processes. Yes. Do

1036
00:56:51.429 --> 00:56:55.050 A:middle L:90%
you here our process when we Oh, exactly.

1037
00:56:55.429 --> 00:57:00.000 A:middle L:90%
That of course is more like our environment designers as

1038
00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:02.150 A:middle L:90%
consultant. We don't really do the work for.

1039
00:57:02.730 --> 00:57:07.909 A:middle L:90%
I'm not sure I could. We are a special

1040
00:57:07.150 --> 00:57:13.369 A:middle L:90%
effort made a no, no, no, this

1041
00:57:13.369 --> 00:57:16.320 A:middle L:90%
is definitely a sort of specialized notion for for this

1042
00:57:16.320 --> 00:57:20.349 A:middle L:90%
because we, like, like for our office of

1043
00:57:20.349 --> 00:57:22.489 A:middle L:90%
online learning, their faculty who are getting paid to

1044
00:57:22.500 --> 00:57:24.860 A:middle L:90%
develop online courses are gonna be teaching. These courses

1045
00:57:24.869 --> 00:57:28.219 A:middle L:90%
will benefit from them in the future. There's a

1046
00:57:28.219 --> 00:57:31.380 A:middle L:90%
different, there's a different sort of set of expectations

1047
00:57:31.380 --> 00:57:36.219 A:middle L:90%
going into that these faculty for these topics. They

1048
00:57:36.219 --> 00:57:38.599 A:middle L:90%
weren't planning a course redesign of any sort. You

1049
00:57:38.599 --> 00:57:42.070 A:middle L:90%
know, I reach out to them. I think

1050
00:57:42.079 --> 00:57:45.050 A:middle L:90%
all of them was me sending an email and then

1051
00:57:45.059 --> 00:57:49.849 A:middle L:90%
having a chat over lunch and then talking about and

1052
00:57:49.849 --> 00:57:51.309 A:middle L:90%
then pointing them to Peggy, you know, as

1053
00:57:51.309 --> 00:57:53.130 A:middle L:90%
an opinion leader, well respected and who can,

1054
00:57:53.139 --> 00:57:55.980 A:middle L:90%
who just loves to talk about everyone wants to talk

1055
00:57:55.980 --> 00:57:58.989 A:middle L:90%
about their successes. Right? So Peggy is happy

1056
00:57:58.989 --> 00:58:01.010 A:middle L:90%
to share what she's done. So that's, that's

1057
00:58:01.010 --> 00:58:02.909 A:middle L:90%
really help get people kind of in the boat.

1058
00:58:02.920 --> 00:58:06.829 A:middle L:90%
But the promise of extra support. It has been

1059
00:58:06.829 --> 00:58:08.940 A:middle L:90%
a unique model specifically for for oh we are.

1060
00:58:09.320 --> 00:58:12.800 A:middle L:90%
Because what most mostly most of what we do is

1061
00:58:12.809 --> 00:58:15.880 A:middle L:90%
is lots and lots and lots of consulting. You

1062
00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:17.019 A:middle L:90%
know, we don't, you know, typically get

1063
00:58:17.019 --> 00:58:19.760 A:middle L:90%
under the hood. We do have we do have

1064
00:58:19.760 --> 00:58:22.380 A:middle L:90%
a production shop for video and multimedia and stuff like

1065
00:58:22.380 --> 00:58:23.429 A:middle L:90%
that and that's a different animal and it's definitely a

1066
00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:27.489 A:middle L:90%
learning object focused. But no, for our instructional

1067
00:58:27.489 --> 00:58:30.070 A:middle L:90%
design model that we're using currently for for o er

1068
00:58:30.079 --> 00:58:34.030 A:middle L:90%
it's kind of we developed it for Oh er yeah

1069
00:58:37.019 --> 00:58:40.409 A:middle L:90%
, yeah, That's okay. It's 2:33. Any

1070
00:58:40.420 --> 00:58:47.190 A:middle L:90%
last questions? I'm happy to chat more if you

1071
00:58:47.190 --> 00:58:49.489 A:middle L:90%
want to come up. I think I have another

1072
00:58:49.489 --> 00:58:52.889 A:middle L:90%
talk at 3:00, but thanks for your time.

1073
00:58:52.010 --> 00:59:05.150 A:middle L:90%
She can Okay.

