Yeah. Okay. Um my name is Ellen Krupar,
and I'm the college librarian for business, liason
to apparel, housing, and resource management and service learning librarian.
And so my title is even longer than Kiri's.
I'm very proud of that. Uh this is this
is just a very very overview. Just kind of
remind people that there's protocols out there and it's just
kind of touching base on it, but also to
kind of remind people of what the base reason is
for the data protocols and gathering protocols. It's really
about preventing misuse. And also, and I'll give
Kiri The credit for this one Is to avoid the
three else for L. S. Are a little
bit different than mine. Um, but it's basically
if you don't follow the protocols, you're opening yourself
up for liability which can lead to lawsuits which can
lead to even more legislation, which will lead to
even more data purpose. Yes, by the way
, I love this picture because apparently instant death is
not enough. You actually have to have a$200
fine. I personally don't know if you have to
pay the fine before the instant death or if you
have it after just wasn't enough. So there are
you know, punishments for touching the data wire.
So when I think about that protocols that I'm just
going to touch base on the three other on campus
. So I R. B. I cook and
I have no idea how to pronounce that. We're
just going to go with that one and always remember
whatever I'm filling out forms that seem a little bit
too much like whatever I'm doing my taxes whenever I'm
signing my life away, always remember that there's somebody
to blame out there somewhere. Somebody has violated something
. So if you look at product labels you'll see
some weird things come up. For example, this
is one of my favorites where it's a mix of
nuts and then it's telling you that if you have
an allergy to these nuts, not them. Mhm
. I was actually eats once picked up a thing
of peanut butter and says may contain peanuts. Yeah
, I showed it to the cashier and I was
like, get better contain peanuts because it's peanut butter
. And they were like, well, you know
, we just have to put it on there.
So just remember somewhere, somewhere out there. Somebody
sued somebody because peanut butter has peanuts, peanuts in
it. And you know, they just didn't make
that my other favorite one is this one. We
need to be told that their Children are flammable.
So just remember that somewhere somebody caused this product able
to happen somewhere. Somebody required this protocol to be
put in place and by the way, it's not
me. Somebody or something actually read somewhere where somebody
said that the product labels should actually have somebody's name
on it. You can say, you know,
I don't iron clothes while you're wearing them, especially
you you know. Exactly. So you have to
, you know, get an idea for I.
R. B. That's the institutional review board.
I picked this lovely picture because it epitomized to me
that we all know hope what that we shouldn't put
our subjects under physical stress and physical danger. But
a lot of the it's also for mental thinking.
So you also have to remember that in addition to
if you're going to like do something to them physically
, that's one thing, but you also can't mess
with their minds too much. And I read once
that undergraduates are the most study group in the world
, anybody do what? Because they volunteer for studies
and they'll do anything for credit. So one of
the statements was that a lot of the psychology studies
have a bias towards college students because it's mainly on
college students. So you sometimes wonder how much is
actually related to what college students are going through rather
than, you know everybody. Yeah. And the
seminars for an institutional review board, it applies if
these four factors and I pulled this from their particular
website. So they actually have a flow chart.
We wander through the flow chart. But this is
the flow chart to the yes where you have to
go through I. R. V. It's basically
if somebody's collaborating investigator or VTS engaged in the research
that was a little bit fuzzier sometimes that released whether
or not it is paying money towards the grant.
And is it designed to contribute to generalize knowledge?
So students that are in the class don't have to
go through I. R. B. To survey
people in order to do a class requirement. But
if you're planning to actually publish something or if they
cross the line where they want to publish it,
they may have to kind of see why a and
backtrack into already. And I have heard a story
about a professor that was just about to publish in
his premier journal and he was so happy and then
he realized that he had involved his undergraduates and collected
data for them. And he then he was like
I wonder if I have to do irony. So
he went to them and they said yes but they
fast tracked his information. So he was actually able
to publish they don't like to do that. I'd
like for you to think of that benefit, then
also does the research involve intervention of interactions with with
individuals. So that does include service. So if
you're so many people you have to um get that
information to Air B. And frankly I never think
about surveys as needing Irby but occasionally it just sort
of like, oh yeah. So think of these
things and what projects for in general trump is research
project. So that would be a fuzzy one.
If it includes private data, you may also have
to go through the Air B. Okay. So
that's one where I would go to our B and
say, hey, you need to be involved and
that may be kind of in the engagement area.
And has anybody gone through the army process? Are
you willing to share your experiences? I'll pick on
you because I know you're going to have to.
I'm lucky. I do mostly surveys. So those
go through pretty quickly because I'm not asking really simple
questions or traumatic events or anything like that. I'm
not injecting anybody with anything. So. But the
actual training itself, once you take it, it's
good. Biggest thing too though is if you do
any inter institutional collaborations, make sure you go by
the strictest institutions requirements. So we have pretty good
requirements. But if you're working with somebody from the
university of Georgia or UV. A. And they
have something that stricter, make sure you go under
their I. R. B. That way you
are completely covered. You might not have training in
more than one place. How about you? I
work mostly with you sister together. Qualitative and quantitative
, sometimes videos taking notes or interviews. and one
thing I learned more recently uh is well one of
you people at night you can call them up and
asking questions. That's what I did. I was
filling out the protocol and I was like I'm not
quite sure this is what actually distance coaches I called
them. I said yeah that's fine. And then
she started telling me basically things people normally leave out
that you should. So I was like really,
what else is there? So I don't have to
go back and do anything extra. So that kind
of good experiences interacting with people who work there okay
. In my experience with him has been that they've
been very helpful but they really would prefer for you
that started beginning not be right before publishing. Yeah
, I'm happy with them. Mhm. And when
you do these types of surveys, you do have
to provide information to the subjects. So for example
, here are some current surveys or studies being done
. I personally need the aging of memory study but
I know I'm not qualified. So it's all different
types of things. Yeah. No. And then
they have general recruitment for different requirements. So I'm
looking for what actually looked at this one myself.
Pop that up a little bit just to participate because
I've never gone through the RB process. But I
have more than the victim sort of things were taken
surveys And I've talked about doing this particular one.
And so it's more on the side of where you
have to tell people what the requirements are. Because
like I like hearing pointed out kindly that I'm not
65 So I can't do the agent in memory one
. That one would have been cool. But I
also when I reflect on the protocols, I sometimes
wonder I've had 30 or 40 or 50 years.
We're gonna be considered the barbarians for doing things to
people. Because if you look backwards in time at
one time it was entirely acceptable to take cancer cells
and inject them in people's arms and see what happens
. Okay. And you know at one time it
was coming not common practice, but it was an
acceptable practice to have college students shock each other to
see whether or not they would continue to shock each
other in particular experiment to see whether or not people
have empathy. So sometimes I think well 40 years
scanning people with Mri's be considered bad. So sometimes
I look at that with different philosophy. Mhm wow
. Yeah. Now Animal Research yes government by the
Animal Research Policy. So it involves several different offices
. Um And the main one that you probably interact
with this is I A Cook and that's the committee
that runs uh huh. Basically the process that you
have to go through and it's basically any animal research
that's not human because humans are actually under the R
. B. And this is one where there are
friendly but they're not quite as accepting this irony.
Yeah. Because it's a whole another ball of wax
of liability. So you can't even start your process
before you go through the eye and that you have
to go through four training elements before you can even
do your proposal. There's a lot of more forward
in and also that they conduct periodic inspections and they
said and for the same six months that they actually
look at all the facilities. So has anybody gone
through the eye of cooks? Would you be willing
to share your experiences? It just takes time.
Lot of time. You're like, you don't have
to specify that you identify moments when you're like why
did I have to fill this out? So somebody
must have done something that well, I mean,
you know, it seems pretty straight forward and look
what I thought were you were ever going to eat
the animals? You don't ever have to feel anything
out. So that was weird. Anything else seem
normal? That does seem a little odd. Makes
me a little bit less interested in buying the meat
that you can buy from on campus. You never
know what's gonna happen. I hope so. I
, yeah. So they would still have to go
through procedures. I certainly hope so. Because when
I was at Clemson, they always said don't get
the meat because they've done radiation studies with of course
, that was just a rumor. Wasn't that the
undergraduates Globe? Okay. Now, International Research is
sort of a segment that it's less natural to think
of. But there is an office that deals with
that the office of export and secure research compliance.
I like this picture by the way since made in
the USA of USA And I like that that's you
know, in the lesson plan. So basically if
you're doing any sort of research that includes international components
, you probably need to talk to them. Mhm
. And oddly enough, they have even more qualifiers
than the other area. And one of the things
that I didn't know before I started looking into this
is if you intend to host someone at Virginia tech
, you have to contact them and just to tell
them and then they may or may not have to
do anything further. And we actually have a program
that we have friends coming over from South Africa and
you know, you basically just have to tell them
. And obviously like brands are not sharing deep dark
secrets, at least not that we're going to tell
you, but it's one of those things. Also
if you intend to travel outside the United States now
, trust me, they do not care. I
go on vacation. If I'm going on official university
business then they want to know. And one of
the things when I look further into this, especially
if you're taking a university laptop, university computer with
you, university flash drive, that kind of thing
because there's been several incidences where you leave your computer
unattended malicious malware gets put on it and then it
comes into the university and they will actually loan you
a laptop take internationally in order to at least not
prevent that. At least they wipe it before.
Excellent. Our university and I intend to ship or
carry items. I'm going to have foreign nationals participate
in research activities. So if you have a co
author that's in another country, that's a part of
the international collaboration. Um And this is where it
gets to the real nitty gritty of leveraging ship.
It's probably not that important to the universities and the
country's stability. But it's this military intelligence based encryption
software. Nuclear related information is really where the rubber
hits the road. That's really what they're looking for
. They're not looking for library science secrets. They
are looking for more military secrets, but things that
you wouldn't expect to be covered. Sometimes we'll go
under this encryption software. So if you have a
key encryption key and you're sending that back and forth
, sometimes that will come under that. So you
have to kind of keep track of everything going on
. And I haven't actually interacted with this group at
all. Is there anybody that's interacted with them?
Mhm. You didn't know that existed. That's more
than I did. You know they existed? Austin
visitors just like that first one is literally like someone's
coming for two days to give a seminar and leave
two different friends. So it, wow you can
go and dig further with them. I imagine it's
more likely to actually have an interest if it's related
to these things. But they still kind of one
of them. Right? I don't care if you
want to know center yourself offers yourself outside. You
got nothing. I'll I don't believe so. But
I would still check with them just to make sure
. I don't know that intend to travel outside your
name, tag Virginia tech on it. That counts
. Especially if you're taking university laptops, university material
over there. That's something I would check. Like
I said I haven't interacted with them because you know
, I have traveled internationally national conference. There are
some you would think You know that New Orleans would
be enough to have 20,000 librarians Trump tricks. But
there are international conferences but I just haven't gone.
Is there anything else anybody else interact with? I
didn't go to Thailand for vacation but nobody can taking
anything. Yeah. So thanks to harry for information
about that slide and notice that I'm giving credit for
all of those pictures when the presentations are available and
actually going to wipe out those pictures. Because even
though I'm using them under creative commons license, you
know librarian makes me paranoid about using pictures from other
people. But I had to show you this product
levels just because those were too much fun. So
does anybody else have a product label that they can
remember that relates to somebody somewhere. Must have done
something bad. Mhm. Yeah. If you name
yourself a favorite. Yeah that is a favorite.
I uh although there is also the coffee is hot
. Well that's always so that was basically a little
over my time. Sorry what? You have to
go back one? Oh it's I think it flipped
forward one. Oh yeah that's why before that I
think. Okay. Yeah this is how they were
like we have right away. Don't you don't good
to know. Uh That's actually based on a real
lawsuit at Mcdonald's. Yes. Yes. Yes.
So you can see that again. There was somebody
who had done something bad that got a lawsuit that
got a product label group and that's one of the
few that we actually have her name. So we
could have it on the product level. I have
one chainsaws remove limbs other than on trees. Say
that a letter chainsaws remove limbs other than on trees
. I've also seen one that was on electrical transformer
box that was on a roof. I've just seen
a picture of it that they were told that their
warning wasn't big enough or strong enough because they just
said hazardous and so basically they put in hazardous electric
, You will die and you will die in agony
over to make sure that they do. So that's
sort of like that original one instant death and$200
. Um So I'm afraid that I'm over my time
, that's what probably is gonna be staring at me
wherever she ended up, so we're going to switch
over to it that's coming out and Mhm. Mhm 331 --> A:middle L:90% .