One of the co-hosts today with me is Cyndi Wyskiewicz and Inga Haugen so this is a zoom
session brought to you by the Horticulture program sub team for Virginia Cooperative Extension.
This was a issue that was identified in one of our needs assessments so better information on
copyright and image protection and those types of topics and very timely considering the world
of zoom these days. So welcome everybody if you want to ask a question feel free
it's a very kind of informal session because that's how Inga rolls
but to do that you're gonna need to unmute yourself and then Cyndi is going to
go ahead and start the session off. You may need to mute everybody again yeah okay
so we will let's see does that include me okay I'm still on all right so uh everybody feel
free to ask questions but unmute yourself and then to do it and then also to use the chat box
I'll be monitoring that Cyndi's going to be the facilitator for the main part of the session and
we'll just see how this goes and then we will be recording this and sending the link out with two
resource documents so don't be in a panic if you're not writing something down or catching
something as we're going over it we have all that information that we will send out with
the recording um afterwards so all right uh so miss Cyndi go ahead and take it away. Okay
good morning everybody I am Cyndi Wyskiewicz, horticulture agent with the city of Portsmouth
for Cooperative Extension. I'm going to introduce miss Inga she's been let's see if
I give you her official title agricultural life science and scholarly communications librarian
she's been with Virginia Tech for five and a half years starting in december of
she welcomes collaboration and dialogue about land grants extension data management and anything else
involving cows which is cool she ran her family's dairy farm before she got her library degree and
she is a 13th generation farmer so she's going to talk to us about how mickey mouse changed
copyright laws and how it applies to you so i'm just going to let her go ahead and take over.
Thank you so I've unmuted myself at this point in time can somebody allow me to share screens
please so I can work with that to be able to as a co-host you should be able to have access to
it's still saying that host disabled participant screen sharing okay Lori I'm telling you maybe I
came in on the wrong link and so didn't they recognize me as a host my apologies I should
just made you one so try it now hell yeah we've got all sorts of buttons to push now excellent
so I wrote in the chat but I will also verbalize I welcome
questions and comments in that space but please don't feel that uh it needs to be addressed to me
if you all want to chatter about different things that's great we are professionals and we have a
wealth of information here and so let's definitely try to to share and engage and
make this make this something that's useful for for you to that end I don't have slides I'm going
to go live in a second to be able to walk through different resources that I want to show you to be
able to talk through different things but I would much rather address questions and be useful to you
than get through anything predetermined so I do have you know different resources that I want to
show off and so I will at least briefly show them but you will have those links in many formats so
you will definitely get the links in the chat so you can follow along with me in that space
the links will be available in a word document at the end too to be able to walk through all of that
so let me know how i can serve you and that's beyond this presentation as well i'm your
librarian and i'm here to help so let's talk about my mickey mouse mickey mouse changed copyright
law that uh that eared wonder that goofy little little mouse so Walt Disney back in the day uh
had created steamboat willie back in 1908 right and so in 1908
uh that that moved forward and copyright law was really in its like infancy back back in that day
in that kind of space so there wasn't a heck of a lot of very specific um aspects to what was going
on and that back back in that point in time to be able to have something be copyrighted you
needed to be able to um take the time and effort to actually create the copyright so you had to
not only just create something but then you had to go through the work of registering it and putting
it in the copyright uh law space and whatever else that way and then you only had 14 years
to be able to have something copyrighted so people didn't necessarily work with that
well with the advent of disney and mickey mouse and mickey being such a money maker aspect of
things um disney started getting involved with copyright law to be able to ask about
being able to change what's happening so they did a lot of lobbying in that kind of space
so there is a chart here that shows how things have changed um free copyright ebook oh wait goofy
little thing so i can show off what i want to show here i don't know how to move that um so here we
go here's the different places where copyright changed so it's a little bit confusing but every
single time mickey is is looking to be able to run out of copyright and into the public domain
all of a sudden there's a new act that's involved so copyright is a way to be able to allow somebody
corporations included so when i talk about somebody there's there's things that way to have
somebody be able to benefit from the work that they've done and so that's uh that's what disney
is doing here to be able to continue to benefit for things and so the copyright for mickey mouse
is projected to expire in 2023 so all of a sudden that's that's something that has been
within one space for the arc of over a hundred years isn't that wild not absolutely wild
so um the different times that things have been uh have been changed over the years um
copyright has changed so not just the amount of time that has happened in that kind of space
it has been the way that copyright can happen and so now so so i've talked about just a brief
aspect of you know 1908 how things worked and then throughout throughout the time how how mickey has
changed things um because we have so much material to go over i'm not going to go into more specifics
but you are welcome to be able to come through and read here to be able to look how the uh
the this lays things out very very nicely to be able to to walk through things
that way but let's talk about what copyright is now and what uh what that actually looks like
so miss inga there's a question about the difference absolutely we're going to talk
about trademark and copyright mark just one second thank you for bringing no one appreciate time to
yeah that's exactly the kind of question that i want to make sure
that i can speak to what you're curious about so thank you so let's talk about what copyright is
so here's uh this is a site um that the the library pulls together uh so these are research
guides and information that our librarians pull together philip young happens to be the person
who's created this one and uh we're trying to put information together in one space
for you to to uh have one place to go to which is kind of cool right so copyright
copyright is a form of protection and um it works with a fixed media a tangible form of expression
so initially the copyright aspect i said you had to put it into copyright these days as soon as
something is in a fixed form it is copyrighted uh so the example here we are recording this at this
point in time as soon as the recording has stopped then this recording will be copyrighted so that's
a way to be able to work with that so what works are protected examples of copyrightable works
give you a list here so we're definitely going to talk about the pictorial graphic
aspect of things today images to be able to make sure that you can work with images appropriately
that was the the impetus from having me come in to be able to talk with you so the way to be able to
work with these things um is pretty much just putting it into a space where somebody else
can reference it right so if it is a fixed aspect you can go back and reference that specific thing
now copyright is in an umbrella of things that work with intellectual property
and so some of the other terms that connect with intellectual property are patents and
trademarks so that's how that comes in so that was a really good question um so the types of things
that are copyrightable need to be able to be fixed but there are some types of fixed media and
information that can't be copyrighted so data sets can't be copyrighted facts can't be copyrighted
the birth of the the birth date of martin luther king jr or his assassination date are facts
those facts are not copyrightable regardless of whatever kind of media that they're in so
being able to put a data set and publish it you can't copyright the data but if you create an
image based on your data so you run a chart or a pie graph or an infographic you can copyright
that that image in that kind of way so the trademark aspect comes more into an image
aspect where the trademark is supposed to give you a specific link to um another another idea so uh
just do it is a phrase that has been trademarked um the aspects of what may be trademarked
um are not something that i keep off the top of my head so i certainly uh will speak more to that if
you have further questions that way so copy your mark copyright and trademarks and patents um are
something like siblings and they work together but the types of material that they um
work with are specific to those types of of things and so it's this is definitely getting
into copyright law and i should state for the record i am not a lawyer i can help you speak
through these things to consider these things um this gets into law and that's something to
to be able to consider which is kind of wild right uh so patents definitely work with uh
oh good grief drawings and images of things to be able that you are creating um and then trademarks
connect more to an image a slogan a phrase things of that nature um now
because i want to talk about what copyright is so we know how to be able to work with it
i would like to see in the chat anybody who wants to be able to say that they are a copyright holder
anybody anybody want to just be give me a yep or a hands up that they are a copyright holder
yay people are saying yes i'm so glad i'm so so glad that you guys are saying so awesome because
everyone here everyone here holds copyright because as soon as you put things in a fixed media
there you have copyright you hold copyright which is excellent so this becomes a lot
more nuanced with the work that we do within cooperative extension with the work that we do
as we're connected to the university so let's look at this a little bit more specifically right now
so um copyright provides the owner of the copyright the right to authorize
others to exercise the rights that you yourself hold as the copyright owner
so this is a specific thing that i wanted to be able to bring forward because
as you are connected to the university as you are connected with cooperative extension
um you are subject to policy 13 000 which states that as a condition of your employment
university also shares copyright holding with you so you are not the sole author of the
items that you have created when you are doing them within your job duties now this is not to
penalize you this is not to be able to uh take any rights away from you but this is the idea like hey
we're working on public money we need to make this publicly available so one of the ways that this
applies shameless plug for the library is that we have a repository called vtech works to be able
to put the works that we're creating into this repository and so even if you're publishing in a
different place you have a right to be able to put a uh copy of your work into the tech works so even
if you're you're publishing and the publishers like hey we need first right of publishing
that's totally legit because of that policy thirteen thousand you have a right to be
able to put um a pre-pub or there's there's just different specifics of that and if we can help you
walk through that if you have any questions about that um into the tech works so that's something to
be able to work with um in a more detailed fashion at a later date if you are curious
uh the question that i see right now is should you leave employment so if you walk away if you
change jobs does that change your copyrights if the time was created during your employment
that's a very good question and so it's pretty much like as you are doing it the laws are going
to apply with the situation that you have at that point in time so i'm hired you know uh at
the library today i publish something tomorrow uh i'm hired today i publish something today
and then next week i go to a different job the university will continue to share rights holding
with me for what i have published because i was employed at that point in time
there are ways to be able to change that if it's necessary but for the most part this is just
good science and good citizenship to engage with the world to be able to put our talents forward
and do so in a way that makes it very accessible so let's
uh take the next question are collaborative cloud-based media covered as fixed media
really good question that would depend if it is in
different spaces so um the example that i'll use is that the library is currently editing a
open letter to be able to make a statement um about the the recent protests and what's happening
um for black lives matter and whatever else that way so the document is available to all 331 of us
but it is not published and so it is not fixed as of yet because we have not published it
um the the letter is certainly there we've been arguing about it for a week at this point and
so it exists but it is behind a wall where unless you have been specifically invited into that space
it doesn't work so the definition of fixed media is really really squidgy
in the in the time of being able to publish things digitally so fixed media when you have
deliberately uh deliberately released it um and somebody else can reference it so
uh when you push tweet and the tweet goes out it's available publicly that is fixed uh when you
um
publish something in vtec works then it is fixed so there's that snapshot in time
um this gets really wild when you start looking at different types of things that uh are being added
to in that collaborative kind of way so um lab notebooks um that folk are working with can be
kind of crazy in that kind of way when you've got data in there and you've got uh people writing in
there and so it's analysis and so their analysis is a creative kind of endeavor and so that can be
copyrighted but the data isn't necessarily and there's multiple people in there um
so that's kind of crazy so do we need to obtain permission from a website if we want to link to
it for a class or delivering in canvas that is such an awesome question let's move forward to
be able to talk more about what's happening there so fair use fair use is super important uh so
fair use is the way oh there's a there's a specific item that i wanted to bring up
for fair use so let me make sure that i grab that please oh shucks
i think i need to go to
this to be able to find that nifty way of working with things
uh
no i'm not seeing it right now so instead of
digging and digging i'll come come back to the the nifty showcase
fair use fair use is very very important
um maybe you don't want to know all this ignorance is not a good alibi you don't you don't get to go
get away with that you you must know this you must know this but i'm always here to be able
to help you navigate it there's other people in the library to help you navigate it um so fair use
is what it sounds like like the the fair way that you can use some aspects and so
the four types of things to be able to consider about fair use are like why are you using it
the amount of what you're using um the nature of the copyrighted work like what is its general um
aspect uh in the world and the effect of your use
that it could have on what's happening to start with so if i take a picture of a very excellent
presentation of what aphids have done to my tomato plants
it is a single picture and if you take that whole picture
and use it again in something else then the amount of what you're using from the original
that i hold you know that i have created that's 100 right now if i have written an entire book on
tomatoes and that is one picture in the entire book then the amount is very very small and so we
talk about is it more or less fair use because we can't actually know what is fair use unless you go
through an analysis and there's uh there's ways to be able to like go through a fair use um analyzer
and then if you took it to court like that is the only way we can say that it's fair use nobody
wants to do that so let's talk about how this is going to um to play out in a general sense so
uh first off there was a word that you used link linking is inherently appropriate linking is your
absolute best way to be able to work with things because you're saying hey here is the original and
you're allowing people to go to the original to be able to work with it in that kind of space so
that is your your number one way of being able to make sure that you're working appropriately with
copyright um then another point that you said in there is that you're working in canvas so canvas
is a restricted educational space so again things are more fair when you are using it in
a restricted space so it's not open to the entire world so you double down there doing good go to
work in that kind of space and thirdly and not least at all it's an educational purpose it is
most likely to be considered fair use when you are putting together things
in an educational space particularly when you are working in a limited space
so only the registered or authorized students may have access to something and then when you're
linking to something you're good to go so those those are actually the top three recommendations
that i have now do i want you to be putting things in a protected space not necessarily
we work with the public and we should be working with the public part of the land-grant mission
and so i don't want to scare you into thinking that that is the most appropriate way to do things
uh but if you are working in a space where um only limited folk have access to it then it
just trends towards more fair use so i'll just check in make sure there's no other
questions in the chat right now i'm going to also take a minute to breathe and remind
myself to slow down i get excited like who knew that copyright's exciting but i do get excited
uh take a drink of water and give you all a chance to be able to ask any questions
so is there a difference between using something in a public education class that will be shared
on a website and if we're using the same item for a volunteer training that will not be shared
publicly yes there is a difference in considering what would be fair use or not um the fair use
is a spectrum and so it would be considered more fair if you are using it for a volunteer
training that will not be shared publicly but i'm gonna step away from that fair use aspect
of things because there's even more tools that i want to be able to put in your toolbox that will
kind of make this less important i definitely wanted you to understand you know a copyright
exists and that you are a copyright holder and that we need to be able to work with this and
that fair use is one way to be able to work with it but there's more things going on here thank you
for the feedback to tell me that this is useful information i definitely want to be useful to
you i want to support you i want to make sure that it is fun as we go if i can make it fun at all so
copyright as i'm talking about it refers to what's happening in
u.s law copyright in an overall aspect
um is not worldwide and so things can be different in different spaces
but again as we're connected to virginia tech and virginia
is within the us then we're just going to be working with with us copyright law creative
commons licenses is a license to be able to put on top of copyright and creative commons licenses are
a worldwide effort to be able to make this much more accessible across the board so what is a
creative commons like what is creative commons let's go look
let's go let's go take a quick gander at what creative commons is
so creative commons gives you free tools machine readable and human readable that let authors
scientists artists educators creators mark their works with freedoms that they want to carry
with how they'd like you to be able to interface with it so you don't have to say all rights
reserved because copyright locks it all down you can say some rights reserved which is pretty cool
right so the whole idea in this kind of space is to be able to give people
common language where you don't have to go back and ask for permission because that's
an entirely appropriate thing to do but i don't have time and i don't care to make time to answer
people saying hey can i use this hey can i use this when i can just put a creative
commons license on it to be able to say like yeah i want everybody to be able to use this
as long as you're you know saying that i have made it so you're you're um oh you're
giving credit and i i don't want you to use it for a commercial purpose and so when we're teaching to
the public that's not commercial we're not looking to make money off of it right and so then things
are good to go and the reason that considering the human readable and machine readable part of it
makes um makes a difference when you go to be able to search for images that are already marked for
your use so i think there was a question so i'm gonna go check on that before moving forward so is
a zoom session protected if it isn't recorded or would references at the end still mean it would be
referenced if somebody remembered the whole link if somebody's remembering the whole link you're
no worries that is not a problem you didn't affix the presentation and try to publish it and share
it it's not a problem um and a zoom session would not be protected if it isn't recorded because
there would be nothing to be able to go back and reference to so i hope that answers that question
wikimedia commons i am so excited that people are going to find creative commons images and so
how much liability do i have for using an image that was improperly uploaded we're all just trying
to do our best here and so this is one of those things where if you're using best practices and
you're doing your best please don't worry i don't want you to stress at all um can i tell you you
know specifically it is 2.3 liability nah i can't um but i'm i am not concerned at all if you use i
mean i want you to use all of the best practices that i'm telling you about but if you even use
half of the best practices that i'm telling you about um you're gonna be standing in good stead so
let's talk about the absolute bare bones of what um of what would be good to do so it is good to
give credit it is good to um give
give breadcrumbs and so if the whole thing comes back to the idea that we just want to be clear
about where things have come from and um who owns them and and gets the credit for things
uh we just need to show how that happens creative commons gives you a way to be able
to do that with shorthand and then also be able to search it so um the way that it is good to
give credit is through citations right and so one of the the comments that i see here is if you're
borrowing photos and using them in powerpoints for either internal or external dissemination
what is the most or the minimal way to acknowledge these of the appropriation i wouldn't say it's
appropriation but we're going to move forward uh you can list sources at the end of the
presentation or you may label each photo the best practice is to be able to label each photo and
image every time because what if somebody takes only that one thing from what you've put out there
and then brings it along and they don't have access to your end slide with the credits
so having because you have published it in a specific way and you had all of your slides
pulled together having a slide at the end with all of the attribution is absolutely correct
absolutely appropriate but it's really really great to be able to include it that way um in that
kind of space and so the next question can you use a youtube video in a powerpoint and play it in a
zoom as long as you reference it with a link yes absolutely um because again you are referencing it
and you're playing it using a link you're doing great absolutely so using public domain tools
um public domain is what we get into um when we're talking about works for hire
from governmental organizations and when people deliberately put something into the public domain
public domain is also what happens when something comes out of copyright so walt disney is trying
to make sure that the mouse doesn't go into public domain so you can splash it on a t-shirt and sell
the t-shirt so when something's in the public domain you can do that so alice in wonderland
is in the public domain and so you can use those specific phrases you can make a play you can um
take the uh the conceptualization of the cheshire cat to be able to put it on a coffee mug
those are that that's something in the public domain to be able to work with it
so there's a difference between creative commons and the public domain
i can put a creative commons license on something and it's still copyrighted to me
and then i can change the types of licensing on that when i still hold the copyright however when
you release something into the public domain you really can't get it back so those are some
different things that way for your purposes for being able to find images and training materials
anything that is um creative commons uh that says you can use it and we're gonna walk through
those in a minute um you can use anything in the public domain you can use so looking at the chat
the attribution can be the specific web page or it can be to the basic url
so there's some back and forth about that because you can have link rot where specific things have
more information and so they're more likely to break and so linking back to the basic url
can be considered best practice um and so things are kind of split in the information community
about me being able to tell you what is considered absolute best practice for that um so both both
are appropriate uh very good question um i do have to say that in thinking about this i'm an analogy
person i use analogies all the time i was recently teaching somebody who doesn't use analogies and
it was so hard for me but when i'm thinking about the breadcrumbs aspect of things like
if somebody uses something that i'm like that is perfect i absolutely want to be able to use that
i want to give anybody else as many indicators as many breadcrumbs as i can to be able to go
back to give credit to the first person so i want to be able to show author have the link
um dates in time uh can be useful and so the things that go into creating a citation are to
be able to give you as many of those breadcrumbs as possible and then the citation styles
apa turabian chicago whatever are the way of presenting them so it's a shorthand to be able to
work with all of those pieces of information so you can use them more easily now because there's
so many citation styles it ends up being a very complex mismatch and i think it's less
easy um but in a general sense if we boil this all the way down your take-home message is
do the best you can create as many breadcrumbs as possible
and yeah we're just going to stick with those do the best you can give attribution use breadcrumbs
oh boy a whole bunch of people are talking okay that's awesome um i'm not going to read through
all of that right now lori i'm going to ask for help there can you please surface any specific
questions um i definitely want to get to uh what folk are talking about but i also
respect that y'all might be talking about some things that could be helpful to to move forward
in that kind of space so i want to show you some of the details about creative commons
so you recognize them so six licenses for sharing your work
remember that you are an author and you can say what uh what's going to go on with stuff right
why can't i make this bigger oh i'm so sorry i'm riding the struggle bus a little bit right now
um can i zoom in at all exit full screen rotate save page grump not seeing that right now you want
to take a quick question about before we move off of the city pictures um uh evan asked about um uh
oh shoot uh uh the text box on a picture can you just say cc or do you need to use that number
and statement um every time let's let's talk about that excellent excellent question so right here on
my screen i can see in the step two that there's different pictures and in step one i also see some
different pictures and so um in the text box when you're attributing an image you are welcome to
use these images to be able to indicate things or you are welcome to just use the language so
this little person looking figure is attribution so that's to be able to say this is the person
that has done the work this is the person that has created things so it is by them so that is a ccby
by and so you could just have ccby and then the the name of the person um then these other uh
signs and options can be mixed so you can have one of them you can have two of them
you can have all of them and you can put them together in any kind of way that you want
and so then when you see this you can recognize how that will roll and so when
you are putting something out you can choose how to be able to um
to indicate this and then to get really fancy in the metadata if you are releasing something
you can put these pieces of information in there so then search engines can find things that
are being put out in that kind of way so that's the machine readable aspect of things not only
the human readable aspect of things which is pretty cool i hope that answers that question
all right um there's one other question about um uh actually it's a specific
example uh so a presentation was recorded and made available to attendees afterwards
but the program was a cooperative effort among several organizations one of the presentations
had an uncited image in it and um uh wasn't wasn't credited and so an attorney
brought the matter up and uh caused some issues how how much trouble would that cause um or what
might have been um the best way to deal with it because again multiple organizations we partner
on a lot of things and so uh what's the best uh way to handle that best way to handle it of course
is to make sure that you hadn't done in the first place which is not the case you can't always do
that mistakes happen um owning it and correcting it to move forward is is a very very good option
um you always have the right uh i shouldn't say the right you always have the option to be able
to say you know i'm sorry i made a mistake here's my corrective action um when you indicate that and
then um uh formalize it um take notes of it uh paper trail so when you're like yo
here's here's the complaint here is the issue here is my corrective remedy then if somebody
wanted to be able to escalate the situation then you'd be able to to put that forward
and as long as you're not trying to make money on something there is again the situations that that
i have heard most cooperative extension folk being in you're not looking to be able to make money on
this for yourself you're not for yourself like the organization is something different and so that at
that level like with the master gardener handbook and some some funds in that kind of space like
that's a different kind of conversation um and i definitely do have those kind of conversations
but when you're not making money for yourself and you aren't trying to uh steal work when you
did get attributions for other things it was one image that didn't have an attribution in
a shared presentation across the board um just go back and correct it and then move forward
uh so there's a following up on that question that's if you have control over your presentation
but a lot of people are putting together programs where other presenters are coming in
and so now the question has you have for yours but but how do you deal with other presenters
because they're not how do you do that what what are your protocols going to be are you willing to
be able to say you know hey best practices say that this is what's happening because you darn
sure do best practices when somebody wants to be able to grab the the vce um oh the word has just
escaped me it's not a trademarked aspect uh the logo lock up if somebody's using the logo lockup
inappropriately like we're gonna say that's that's not okay right because we know that it
isn't okay because we had to work in that kind of space so how do you work with that kind of thing
that's hard that's challenging so i am merely going to put it back to you to be able to say that
if you'd like to have further conversations about that and spitball ways to be able to work with it
i'm happy to do that i definitely encourage you to bring that up in in the spaces in which you're
working and that would be something that i would love to have that chat light up to be able to um
have you guys talk back and forth about what you're going to do about that
um yeah uh i will say that it's not easy i will say that it's not light i will say that i wish
you luck and i'm certainly here to support you so i'm not trying to be flippant about that at all
good questions so i am looking at the amount of time that i've got left i'd like to be able to
whip through the rest of what i want to be able to show you um to make sure that i get to it and
then i will come back to any questions that are in the chat and uh i will take longer and go back to
anything else that i've gone through very quickly that you'd like to ask more questions about
so here is the place that i want you to be able to go when you want to be able to start looking for
images because we're trying to be able to put this together to make it easy for you so this is how to
find openly licensed photos and illustrations right so we can talk about creative commons
we can talk about public domain but an overall umbrella term is the openly licensed so i can talk
about oa open access i can talk about oer open educational resources and so within this context
openly licensed is that high level umbrella term to be able to talk about all of the different
specifics that we had gone through so hopefully this will re remind you what's looking at
it and so this should give you a step-by-step walkthrough of how to be able to do that search
attribution is always required so when you're using the creative commons licensed works
just say who they're by you can do it it's gonna be awesome and so here is the
example of how to be able to do that so i should have gotten to this point for
uh sooner when i was talking through uh that very very good question that had been brought up
so this gives you an example of what that looks like see there we go awesome now
uh google scholar or excuse me google advanced image search is not the only way to do things it
happens to be the first place that i go to but look at the list of things we have for you here
creative commons cultural heritage search pretty cool like you want to be able to to showcase
the bead work that actually shows that a specific area truly did have a flower that's an example
that i've made up and i have no idea if we could do that but it'd be pretty cool if we could
um so openly licensed images in these other types of things there's options to find music and video
which is pretty cool wikimedia commons the noun project fig share photos for class
so these are just some places to be able to to go and look but this site in particular is what
we try to keep updated and so um by having this resource guide here um this is our way of trying
to be able to continue to support the university community um and have one place that we can just
update things if you find something that you think should be included in this space or let's
be let's be real greedy here um in any of the agriculture research guides that i have created
if you think that something ought to be you know contained here in this hort guide
let me know let us librarians know because we create these to be useful and if y'all think
that there's something that's more useful or better absolutely absolutely tell us
so hopefully this is something that you can go through there is there's there's so
much stuff here please don't feel overwhelmed please just feel that this is here for you to
uh to be able to be working with um i would be remiss if i did not bring forward and highlight
the diversity including image collections that are here uh yeah let's uh let's make
sure that what we're working on can can be as inclusive as possible it's really important to me
okay so these these are things for you to be able to support you in that kind of space let's look
to see what else i've got here um i believe we've already looked at this but let's just double check
so um creative commons and the copyright and if you want to be able to come through here
uh you're frequently asked questions about copyright information about marking your own work
with the cc licenses um determining the copyright and licensing status of work if you find something
that's perfect and it's not very clear this could be a way to be able to work with that um
let's see here uh where you can share your original works another plug for vtworks to
be able to put your things there because you guys are doing awesome work i want to make sure that
we've got places where it's archived well so it's available and hey look this license is here right
so anita put this together and she's showing that she is putting a creative commons attribution 4.0
international license on this right so this is how she's working with things which is pretty cool
uh we went through that so here is an example of what vtec works looks like
this is a specific collection that we have in the tech works and so i don't know why it's called
project number 10 but it was and so we just rolled with it and so there's a whole bunch
of images here and so now within this collection you can actually search so it says it says search
within this collection and so i searched plant the other day and then we came up with we came up with
pictures so there's images in here and uh this is just our history which is pretty cool
so i've been working with kali hessian and bsc to be able to digitize and archive and
work with old photos to be able to put them in here and make them available so
if you'd like for me to help work with you in those different spaces
y'all just let me know and then i will ask for more help as i need to
because let's let's be honest i know that there's a whole lot of really cool stuff
that's out there that that could surface as we really start getting into things um
you don't need to go into a specific collection to be able to search for images and vtec works
and so this was to be able to search the whole thing and my favorite uh here so i mean i just
searched for i think plants again um so there's different things to be able to oh there we go
no this was just the image search virginia white virginia tech hat
so here's a picture of a hat that that's what that looks like when you're out in the field and
doing work and it just like that is utterly perfect in so many ways all right and then
oh i've missed an h on that but we're gonna we're gonna grab this so
this set of resources um is just to be able to to go through and uh there was a lot of work
that went into working with this and so there's very detailed aspects of how to be able to work
with things right and so attributions photography different different things and that kind of space
all right i have gone through those things and now i definitely want to go back to what y'all are
talking about so um lori as you've been kind of um watching things please surface anything that you
think needs to come forward okay did you um want to go over that um the other document
um let's see the um that i downloaded it like your images vce document yeah i should have
should have downloaded that and uh managed to forget so you want me to put it up real quick
i think i've got it right here but if it doesn't pop up right away i'm gonna ask you to there you
go yep and look given the library some love the main resource you should review is the
library's image citation guide so i i did go over that with you and um we spent some time
looking at that and so this is for you right and so this should be a reference sheet
notice i didn't say cheat sheet because we're not cheating here we're doing darn good work
this is a reference guide to be able to go through what i went through today right so you
want an analyzer of if it's fair use or not this will walk you through it and it it's pretty cool
so um if we're gonna boil everything that i talked about today down into very top-level aspects is
for the work that i'm doing do i need permission to use images and
artwork and infographics that i found online the answer is yes you need permission however creative
commons licensing and those open licensing options give that permission already and so
you are not needing to ask permission because the permission has been granted but we do
need permission to be able to work with things as we move forward we're going to show what that what
those permissions are um to be able to cite the works and the things that we are putting forward
i highly encourage you to be able to put your own licensing and your own permissions on things so
it is evident for other people so they know what your intent is and so that they can move forward
and if you forget everything that i've said today the one thing that you must remember
is that i am your librarian and i'm here to help and i've got a whole library full of people behind
me that will also help that i can lean on to be able to support you so there we go other questions
okay i don't see any other questions um uh in here a couple people late so i've let them know that
the recording will be up probably i'll send out the announcement on monday it will also include
the document you just reviewed as well as the list of all of the websites that you went to
um so that'll all be together in one little package for everybody
and especially people that couldn't attend today i've also suggested that people if they
have specific incidences or things that they would like to discuss that they contact you
about those uh because there's so many different um absolutely things that people the library has
a chat function and you're welcome to be able to pop in the chat too you're welcome to email me
directly as well but sometimes folks can help you navigate that in that kind of space in a
faster way than i can and i guess i will take a second to be able to plug the library again
and my services to be able to say that if you want me to give a presentation or if you want
a presentation on anything that is related to the library it's our job to be able to do that
and so we can do one-on-one consults we can do one to small groups i am happy to be able to
come to a monthly meeting to be able to give a a smaller like a pricy about this kind of topic
you know for 20 minutes or whatever else that way so if there's any teaching any training that
needs to happen on anything library related please reach out thank you so much for the
opportunity to be present uh in this space y'all do good work and it is so cool to uh to get to
be able to support you so thank you all right thank you very much um anything else uh cindy
all right um inga's uh contact information will also be on on these documents that are sent out
i did see one thing come through about somebody not with virginia tech i tried to make as much of
what i had available um applicable to folk that are not content not connected to virginia tech
um the only thing that i can think about at the top of my head that does not connect is the policy
thirteen thousand and so uh please feel free to share all the resources please share the links
to the resource guides at virginia tech uh those librarian research guides that are pulled together
those are publicly available they they should be um available and accessible and you are welcome
to share them broadly so if you are in a class and you share them with the public that is great
please do please feel free to do so do you have a recommendation or is there like a cheat sheet that
back to the question when you work with um other presenters you're coordinating other presenters
into a program that are recommendations for them when you know this program can be recorded and
released to help them stay sort of on the safe side of no i i don't uh but i think that's a
really great idea and i'm gonna try to take a note here that we could create some boilerplate
language around that but maybe somebody in the library one of my colleagues has already created
that so i will look into that and get back to you and then lori i'd like to share that with you
so then you could broadcast that again and if the person that had that specific question
cares to email me directly so i directly follow up with them i'm happy to do so good question
all right i'm checking to see i don't see any final questions i see a lot of thank yous for
being so engaging for your enthusiasm um for the information um and a few people saying yes they're
definitely going to follow up with you great all right well thanks everybody for your time
uh and attention today um the recording uh link should go out on monday provided it
gets up to the cloud in a timely manner and um uh thank you for being our new best friend dinga
glad uh glad to be here i did drop my um my email into the chat it will go out in those other places
uh just to be able to oversaturate that to be able to make sure that i'm available
all right have a good rest of the day and a good weekend everybody