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>> Good afternoon and welcome to

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the 18th annual Schnabel
Engineering Lecture.

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My role here is very brief.

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I would like to
welcome you here to

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Virginia Tech and to
welcome Alan Cadden.

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Alan Cadden is the principal
of Schnabel Engineering,

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and a very good
personal friend and

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a very good friend of
our program. Alan.

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>> Thank you, Adrian.
Good afternoon.

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I'm happy to be
able to introduce

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the 18th Schnabel Engineering

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Lecture here at Virginia Tech.

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Especially at a time when

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the civil engineering
profession is exploding and

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the infrastructure opportunities
and environmental needs

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will provide excitement and

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many real challenges
throughout your careers.

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We couldn't present this
lecture without the help of

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Dr. Rodriguez and Mrs. Atwell,

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as they do the hard
work of making

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all the arrangements
here on campus.

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We at Schnabel love
this opportunity to

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return to Virginia Tech each
year and host this event,

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so we thank you for
welcoming us back.

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Some of you may know
this, but Schnabel is

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approaching 70
years old or young,

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depending on your perspective.

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We have about 30 offices
across the country,

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and from these locations,

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we offer services throughout

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the United States and
around the world.

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We're excited to
have announced that

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JCK Underground joined

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the Schnabel team at the
beginning of the month,

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which significantly
increased the size of

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our underground engineering
and program management group.

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We are a 100%
employee-owned company at

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the top and over our nearly
70 years of history.

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We have grown in breadth of

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services as well as geography.

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Growing from

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a traditional geotechnical
engineering start,

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to a much broader design firm,

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now including full
services around

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specialty foundations,
dams, and tunnels.

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For me, some of the
most exciting new work

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involves applications of
innovation around data science,

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digital twins, and

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advanced visualization
within our workflows.

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Given the challenges
we face today

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and the opportunities
we see in the future,

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we host this lecture each year

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to bring you a different face of

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our profession from outside
the academic calls.

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These lectures, many of them

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recorded and available
in your library,

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present different aspects of

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a career in civil engineering,

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careers that have
evolved over decades.

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They share their stories,

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they also do a little
pontificating on

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what you might see as
your careers evolve.

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Today we bring you a colleague
and a friend of Schnabel.

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Recently, I've had
the pleasure to work

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with Dave as a Deep
Foundation Institute trustee.

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So without further ado,

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let me introduce our
speaker for today.

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David Paul, a
Professional Engineer,

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is the managing partner of

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Paul Geotek Engineering
LLC in Denver Colorado.

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He retired from the Corps of
Engineers after 22 years of

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federal service as a
dam safety officer

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for the Mosul Dam Task Force,

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which provided
technical assistance

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to the government of Iraq,

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to mitigate dam safety issues

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associated with the Mosul Dam.

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A fascinating case history

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itself for geotechnical
engineers.

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He also served as a
special assistant for

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dam safety at the Corps of

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Engineers Headquarters
in Washington,

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DC, responsible for managing

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the Corps portfolio of 715 dams.

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He is a national specialist

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on critical
infrastructure design,

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dam design, levee design,

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construction engineering,
engineering risk management,

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interim risk reduction measures,

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and dam and levee
safety modifications.

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He was a geotechnical
subject matter expert for

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the Orville Dam Risk
Assessment in California,

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which is the tallest earth
dam in the United States.

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He has been involved in the
design and construction of

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11 new dams and over 75

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dam modifications
around the world.

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As I noted, Dave is
currently a trustee

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of the Deep Foundation
Institute and a member

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of the Association of
State Dam Safety Officials

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and the American Society
of Civil Engineers.

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In addition, as a member of

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the United States
Society on Dams,

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he serves as the co-chairman of

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the USSD Committee
on Construction

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and is active with the
embankment dam committee.

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He is also the USSP
representative to

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the International
Commission on Large

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Dams Cold Embankment
Dam Committee.

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Please join me in welcoming

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David Paul to Virginia
Tech, and Dave,

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we look forward to your insights

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on the history of dam and

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levee safety in the United
States. Thank you. Welcome.

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>> Thank you, Alan,

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for the kind words
of introduction.

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I am sincerely honored
to be invited to come

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today and enjoy the
beautiful weather

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on this beautiful campus
here in Blacksburg,

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and be able to come and speak to

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you on behalf of Schnabel and
Virginia Tech University.

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Alan emphasized to me
when he invited me

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that he wasn't interested
in a technical lecture.

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I definitely took him at

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his word and I assure
you that the content

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and my words today are

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definitely not
technically oriented.

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But nonetheless, I
hope that you find it

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interesting for
your career pass.

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The presentation topics
that I'm going to cover.

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I'm going to talk
about Fontenelle Dam,

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which I don't think many
of you have ever heard,

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so precursor to Teton Dam.

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And talk about the
development of

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dam and levee safety programs in

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the United States and
talk about how it

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impacts infrastructure
and as the profession

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migrates towards
risk-informed decision-making

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in administering those programs.

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I felt compelled I
need to, I think,

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give a bit of carbon dating
for myself to you all.

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As Alan said, my career
has been federal.

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Started with the Soil
Conservation Service

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in Illinois in 1976.

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Went to Denver,
Colorado to work with

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the Bureau of Reclamation

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after Teton Dam failure in 1978.

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Worked there 32 years,

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and then finished up eight years

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with the Army Corps
of Engineers,

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as they stood up their
risk management center.

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When I started 78,

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there were no cell phones,

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there were no laptops,

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there were no computers.

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We had one rotary dial phone for

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five people you could
smoke at your desk.

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All drawings were done
by hand, on linen,

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in a huge room there were
100 oak drafting tables,

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filled with World War II
Korean veterans who smoked,

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and the work and
the drawings that

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they created were
truly pieces of art.

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But everything was done by hand.

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All memos were
written, long ham,

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and taken to the steno pool,

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and 25 ladies with typewriters
typed out your memos.

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That's carbon dating
myself and we ran

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stability analysis

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from computer punch
cards and took them

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down to the computer
room and slid

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them through the window
to run on the IBM.

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Then an hour later, go
back and hope that you had

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some output and didn't
have an incorrect card.

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My point being, the
amount of technology and

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transformation that's happened
in my professional career,

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when I pause and reflect on it,

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truly just blows me away.

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You are all to me in this world

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where technology is changing
rapidly and frankly,

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it's hard to keep up
sometimes, but embrace it.

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It's just unbelievable
what you can do these days

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with the power of computer and
communications technology.

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My professional career is
rooted with the failure of

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Teton Dam that
failed June 5, 1976.

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Teton River in Idaho,

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designed, constructed by
the Bureau of Reclamation.

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>> As a result of this incident,

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the organization underwent
a very rigorous,

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robust evaluation by
independent expert engineers

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brought to bear by
the US government

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to investigate the accident.

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I have dear friends that were

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involved with the design
construction of Teton.

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They were there throughout

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construction and
they're standing up by

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the left abutment or
the right abutment at

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the spillway when the
dam crest fell in.

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They were there that morning,

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started around 06:30
in the morning,

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progressed quite rapidly to
the failure at around 11 30.

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Working for Reclamation
in 77 and 78,

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they hired about 500

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of young engineers from
around the country.

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We repopulated the
technical service center

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in Denver and re-established
the organization.

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From that, they created

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the actual dam safety office

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within the Bureau
of Reclamation.

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I was asked in October 78,

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45 years ago, by Richard Kramer,

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who was running the organization

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Embankment Dams
Group at the time.

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We're opening up the
dam safety office.

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Dave, we need some help.

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Would you take some time
and volunteer and help?

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I said, "Sure".

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I did so, and so I've been
immersed with dam safety,

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dam engineering, construction,
my entire career.

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It's again, fundamentally
rooted in Teton Dam failure.

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I had the great fortune
to be blessed to

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have many engagements with
Doctor Peck over my career.

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He served on several
consulting boards for

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dams that I designed
and constructed.

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This is his quote with respect
to the failure at Teton.

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Frankly, if you have interest
in the damn levee world,

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I submit reading
those proceedings

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from the investigation should
be required [inaudible].

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I'm sure you can find it online.

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Again, I had good fortune

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to talk to Doctor Peck

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and others that were
involved with the failure.

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The state of the profession at

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that time truly
should have dealt

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with the geologic conditions

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that presented
themselves at Teton.

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There was truly a situation

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where the organization
failed, quite frankly.

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Before Teton, there was
actually Fontenelle Dam on

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the Green River in Western
Wyoming Earth Dam,

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about 150 feet tall,

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5,000 foot Crest Ling,

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built in the '60s.

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Frankly, instead of Teton Dam,

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it could have been
Fontenelle Dam in the '60s.

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This is a picture
of the foundation.

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There were vertical open joints,

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very problematic
geologic conditions

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upon which to build
an embankment dam.

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The design here you can see
some of the open joints.

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There was generally not

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a rigorous clean-up program
or treatment program and

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the single line of defense to

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mitigate foundation seepage
was foundation grouting.

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A fairly conservative section in

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terms of the impervious barrier,

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the impervious core,

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constructed out of
silt and gravity silt

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similar to Teton.

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Upon first filling,

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you can see the amount
of seepage that

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manifested and reflected itself
along the downstream toe.

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It was not expected,

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as you can probably appreciate.

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But what really caused
the incident or

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the concern is this is May 1965.

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The spillway is constructed
over on the right abutment.

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This is the spillway
embankment contact.

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Again, some of the
pictures that I showed

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showing the irregularities and

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open joints in the foundation,

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seepage migrated through,
created erosion,

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and there was a
near failure here.

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They were able to
open the gates,

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lower the reservoir,

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and establish safe condition.

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They then excavated this,

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back filled it, reconstructed,

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refilled the reservoir,

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and lo and behold,

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in July, a second
event happened.

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You can see the extent of it
in the same general area.

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Again, just a few months,

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the same event happened again.

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Emergency evacuation
lowered the pool,

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excavated this out,
and rebuilt it.

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Re-established the reservoir
pool, and lo and behold,

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there was a third incident that

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occurred in September 1965,

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much larger in extent.

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When I see these pictures,

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I'm constantly amazed
that the crest didn't

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fall in the damn breach
causing release of reservoirs,

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just a miracle that
it didn't happen.

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They excavated and rebuilt

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this section and
re-established the reservoir.

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I point this out in that,

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if you work for
larger organizations,

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you shouldn't be complacent.

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You should guard against
being complacent.

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The Bureau of Reclamation,

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they built Hoover Dam,

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Glen Canyon, Grand Coulee Dam.

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There was, in all honesty,

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some arrogance within
the organization,

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having all of those
grand dams in

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their portfolio operating
successfully around the west.

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In response to this incident,

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reclamation designers and

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managers heard about Fontenelle,

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but there was in talking to

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engineers working in that era,

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they heard about it,

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but there was not
widespread discussion,

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presentation, or conversations
about cause and extent.

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This is truly before

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a formal dam safety program
was designed and implemented.

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Moving on and again,

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from Teton, 11 lives were lost.

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The dam was essentially tapped

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out and failed upon
first filling.

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In all honesty, if you
go back to that era,

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the state of the profession
was mature and certainly

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had the experience and the
wherewithal to be able

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to treat a difficult foundation.

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This was volcanic assault,

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lots of open joints.

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But again, the organization

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did not really heed the
state of the practice,

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and lo and behold,

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the damn failed
on first filling.

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Again, some of the
lessons learned.

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The principal designer
for the dam in

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Denver visited the site one
time during construction.

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There was essentially little to

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no coordination or communication

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between the construction team

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building the dam
and the design team

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that designed it in
the Denver office.

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There was no external review,

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no consultant boards
at that time.

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Again, the primary defense

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against seepage through
foundation defects,

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which were significant
at this site,

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was essentially relying
on a single line grout.

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Moving on to,

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again the history
as it relates to

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dams as a significant piece

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of our infrastructure
in this country.

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Where there's dams,
there's dam failures.

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I'll talk here in a
minute about the NID,

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the National Inventory of Dams.

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In the United States of America,

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there are 90,500
dams in the NID,

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which I continue to find as

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an astounding number
of dams that have

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been built and are
registered in the NID,

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which is administered by
the Corps of Engineers.

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Again, you can see with the NID,

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the federal government,
the Corps of Engineers,

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Bureau of Reclamation,

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TVA, has been able to keep track

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of failures or incidents which

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have generated these statistics.

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There's low probability
but nonetheless,

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when you impound water and

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create a lot of
potential energy.

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If you don't treat the foundation
or design it properly,

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certainly you can have
a breach and release

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a lot of energy. I apologize.

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I know this is a bit of
a hard slide to digest,

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but it's a timeline and the
intent here is to document

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some significant failures
in the United States.

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There's Baldwin Hills,
there's Fort Peck Dam slide,

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Teton, Lower San Fernando.

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There have been in
our last 50-70 years,

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some very significant
dam incidents

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or failures that
have actually caused

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the reservoir to be
released and have

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significant damages and
loss of life downstream.

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Certainly, the Teton
Dam failure in

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1976 generated the
impetus within

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congress and the federal
agencies to generate

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legislation and create a
national dam safety program.

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Again, another slide depicting.

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Ironically at this time the

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ICOLD and the Bureau TVA
in the federal world,

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they were self
regulated dam owners.

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They have their own
portfolio dams.

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The ICOLD has 715,

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TVA has around 200,

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the Bureau has around 400 dams.

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When you compare those numbers,

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sum them up and compare
them to 90,500.

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You can appreciate that it's
maybe not a high percentage,

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but nonetheless those agencies

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have some very high and
very significant dams.

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Again, the turning point for

00:21:21.430 --> 00:21:22.930
the dam safety program

00:21:22.930 --> 00:21:24.430
within the United
States certainly,

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Teton was the impetus in '76,

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and as a result,

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the Dam safety Act was
developed and passed.

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Some other failure
information to give you

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some context of dam failures.

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This record is 1848-2017.

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You can see the number of
dam failures is over 1,500.

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All 50 states had
a dam that failed.

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The state with the
most is Georgia.

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Those states that had the

00:22:03.640 --> 00:22:06.445
fewest were Hawaii
and Louisiana.

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Again, having this statistical
information is quite

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important in terms of developing
the dam safety programs.

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Some other statistics
that came out from

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Stanford University in 2018

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are represented in this report.

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Certainly would
encourage you to reach

00:22:30.580 --> 00:22:37.250
out and access that information.

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Statistic that I find
astounding is since

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1980 so in the last 43 years,

00:22:45.775 --> 00:22:49.930
there's been essentially
24 dam incidents per year.

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That doesn't mean failure,

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but there's been
slides or there's been

00:22:53.230 --> 00:22:58.675
stability issues that cause
some emergency action.

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It's essentially a two a
month for the last 33 years,

00:23:06.490 --> 00:23:09.400
which again, I find to
be rather astounding.

00:23:09.400 --> 00:23:13.270
As I said, the National
Inventory of Dams was created,

00:23:13.270 --> 00:23:15.100
mandated by Congress as part

00:23:15.100 --> 00:23:17.245
of the Dam Safety Legislation.

00:23:17.245 --> 00:23:20.140
This is the URL for that.

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The ICOLD maintains
this database.

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It interacts with each
of the 50 states.

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Each of the 50 states does

00:23:29.680 --> 00:23:34.510
have a legislated active
dam safety program now,

00:23:34.510 --> 00:23:36.490
Alabama was the last,

00:23:36.490 --> 00:23:39.760
but last year, or
maybe the year before,

00:23:39.760 --> 00:23:42.310
they did finally
pass legislation and

00:23:42.310 --> 00:23:45.670
fund and started Dam
Safety Programs.

00:23:45.670 --> 00:23:48.970
That conglomeration
of all 50 states,

00:23:48.970 --> 00:23:53.380
resides under the Association
for Dam Safety Officials,

00:23:53.380 --> 00:23:54.865
ASDSO.

00:23:54.865 --> 00:23:58.540
The other organization
primarily focused on

00:23:58.540 --> 00:24:02.155
dams in the US is the United
States Society on Dams,

00:24:02.155 --> 00:24:06.790
USSD, which is again
affiliated with ICOLD,

00:24:06.790 --> 00:24:10.105
which is the International
Commission on Large Dams.

00:24:10.105 --> 00:24:16.225
Both USSD and ASDSO meet
annually and as Alan mentioned,

00:24:16.225 --> 00:24:20.680
certainly would encourage as you

00:24:20.680 --> 00:24:25.315
move into practice or
proceed in your career.

00:24:25.315 --> 00:24:27.055
You certainly should reach out

00:24:27.055 --> 00:24:30.800
and engage with
those organizations.

00:24:32.130 --> 00:24:35.575
Some statistics from NID.

00:24:35.575 --> 00:24:40.510
It's used by the National
Dam Safety Review Board and

00:24:40.510 --> 00:24:44.065
Association of State
Dam Safety Officials

00:24:44.065 --> 00:24:49.600
to inform legislatures
in their states,

00:24:49.600 --> 00:24:53.920
to inform Congress
and federal agencies

00:24:53.920 --> 00:24:59.200
to recommend dam
safety policies.

00:24:59.200 --> 00:25:03.940
Many of those changes reside
in WARDA legislation,

00:25:03.940 --> 00:25:06.235
Water Resources Development Act.

00:25:06.235 --> 00:25:08.545
They're not passed every year,

00:25:08.545 --> 00:25:13.240
but every couple of years
WARDA passes through

00:25:13.240 --> 00:25:19.840
Congress changing policies
or adding new policies.

00:25:19.840 --> 00:25:23.110
More than 65% of the dams

00:25:23.110 --> 00:25:26.545
in the NID are classified
as low hazard,

00:25:26.545 --> 00:25:32.290
50% of them are less
than 25 feet in height,

00:25:32.290 --> 00:25:34.240
and almost as I said,

00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:37.420
70% of the dams are
privately owned.

00:25:37.420 --> 00:25:40.555
Again, the privately
owned dams are regulated

00:25:40.555 --> 00:25:44.320
by the state dams
safety programs.

00:25:44.320 --> 00:25:51.800
The average age of the
dams are 60 plus years.

00:25:51.910 --> 00:25:54.830
With respect to levees,

00:25:54.830 --> 00:25:59.975
this is a map from ASCE and
FEMA showing the counties,

00:25:59.975 --> 00:26:03.185
dark green, that have levees.

00:26:03.185 --> 00:26:09.830
There's 150,000 plus miles
of levees in this country,

00:26:09.830 --> 00:26:14.030
and there's about
three million miles

00:26:14.030 --> 00:26:15.860
of river in the United States,

00:26:15.860 --> 00:26:20.705
which again, I find this
an astounding number.

00:26:20.705 --> 00:26:24.515
But again, there's
150,000 miles of levees.

00:26:24.515 --> 00:26:27.860
The Corps of Engineers is

00:26:27.860 --> 00:26:31.190
the principal federal agency
associated with levees.

00:26:31.190 --> 00:26:34.130
They designed and
are responsible

00:26:34.130 --> 00:26:37.130
for 15,000 miles of levees,

00:26:37.130 --> 00:26:39.620
so they're about 10%.

00:26:39.620 --> 00:26:43.850
Those that may have grew
up or lived around some

00:26:43.850 --> 00:26:48.155
of the major rivers like
the Mississippi, Missouri,

00:26:48.155 --> 00:26:53.720
Ohio, all can probably remember

00:26:53.720 --> 00:26:57.890
significant flood
hydrologic events

00:26:57.890 --> 00:27:00.935
in your lifetime that
caused flooding.

00:27:00.935 --> 00:27:04.130
These are just some numbers
and as you can see,

00:27:04.130 --> 00:27:08.030
these damages are significant.

00:27:08.030 --> 00:27:10.220
They're not a couple
million dollars,

00:27:10.220 --> 00:27:15.230
this are multiple billions of
dollars from these events.

00:27:15.230 --> 00:27:17.990
The last 2017 was over

00:27:17.990 --> 00:27:26.765
$125 billion in damages from
extreme hydrologic events.

00:27:26.765 --> 00:27:30.290
This is an interesting figure.

00:27:30.290 --> 00:27:36.275
Again, somewhat difficult
to see, but in 1927,

00:27:36.275 --> 00:27:42.950
the flood on the Mississippi
generally is the event that

00:27:42.950 --> 00:27:46.430
created legislation and led to

00:27:46.430 --> 00:27:50.870
the Levee Construction
Program in the United States.

00:27:50.870 --> 00:27:53.405
Again, there's levees

00:27:53.405 --> 00:27:56.720
both sides of the Mississippi

00:27:56.720 --> 00:27:59.880
from Minnesota
clear to the gulf.

00:27:59.980 --> 00:28:04.760
You can see it's constrained

00:28:04.760 --> 00:28:09.260
the river and allowed
it to be operated in

00:28:09.260 --> 00:28:13.190
a very efficient manner
and certainly has

00:28:13.190 --> 00:28:16.490
reduced and eliminated a lot of

00:28:16.490 --> 00:28:19.700
damages that could have
been caused from flooding.

00:28:19.700 --> 00:28:22.730
You can just see between 27 and

00:28:22.730 --> 00:28:27.530
2011 there were over
almost 17 million acres

00:28:27.530 --> 00:28:30.170
affected by flooding in 27 and

00:28:30.170 --> 00:28:36.065
somewhere over six
million in 2011 floods.

00:28:36.065 --> 00:28:39.440
The amount of damages
that were mitigated or

00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:43.040
eliminated by the levees
are again very significant.

00:28:43.040 --> 00:28:47.150
Congress passed National
Levee Safety Act in

00:28:47.150 --> 00:28:54.395
2007 as part of Water
Legislation 2014.

00:28:54.395 --> 00:28:58.505
The Corps of Engineers
is taking the lead to

00:28:58.505 --> 00:29:03.125
implement the National
Levee Safety Program.

00:29:03.125 --> 00:29:07.460
Again, Corp is responsible
for 15,000 miles of

00:29:07.460 --> 00:29:13.310
levees and they are working
with each of the 50 states.

00:29:13.310 --> 00:29:16.850
The goal is to bolt onto

00:29:16.850 --> 00:29:20.600
the existing dam safety
programs within the states,

00:29:20.600 --> 00:29:23.300
a levee safety program.

00:29:23.300 --> 00:29:26.780
Similar to NID,

00:29:26.780 --> 00:29:30.920
the Corps has created the
National Levee Database.

00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:32.510
In the last decade,

00:29:32.510 --> 00:29:37.415
they have been able to
assess and populate

00:29:37.415 --> 00:29:41.180
the levee database for
the 15,000 miles of

00:29:41.180 --> 00:29:45.590
levees in the country that
the Corps is responsible for.

00:29:45.590 --> 00:29:47.720
They're working again
with states and

00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:50.600
other private owners to assess

00:29:50.600 --> 00:29:53.150
their systems and to

00:29:53.150 --> 00:29:57.620
get that information
into the database.

00:29:57.620 --> 00:30:01.910
As I know you all can
appreciate is having

00:30:01.910 --> 00:30:04.520
this historical information is

00:30:04.520 --> 00:30:07.925
the foundation for
any safety program.

00:30:07.925 --> 00:30:10.310
Certainly, is quite important

00:30:10.310 --> 00:30:14.780
as the organizations
continue to assess

00:30:14.780 --> 00:30:18.470
the performance of their
structures and make

00:30:18.470 --> 00:30:20.300
decisions as to whether they're

00:30:20.300 --> 00:30:23.255
safe or unsafe and
if they're unsafe,

00:30:23.255 --> 00:30:26.960
what actions are required to

00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:31.115
bring them to acceptable
levels of failure,

00:30:31.115 --> 00:30:34.340
as I'll get into
here in a minute.

00:30:34.340 --> 00:30:37.700
Again, the levee database is

00:30:37.700 --> 00:30:43.415
summarizing periodic inspections,
special inspections.

00:30:43.415 --> 00:30:48.080
It also includes failure modes,

00:30:48.080 --> 00:30:50.285
which I'll get into
here in a minute,

00:30:50.285 --> 00:30:53.975
and the general
health, if you will,

00:30:53.975 --> 00:30:57.980
of the levees as part
of being able to assess

00:30:57.980 --> 00:31:05.340
them and be able to take
corrective actions when needed.

00:31:05.980 --> 00:31:12.730
Again, I find some of these
statistics fascinating

00:31:12.730 --> 00:31:20.690
in that 75% of the US
population was born after 1960.

00:31:21.190 --> 00:31:27.035
I've said it to Alan over
breakfast this morning,

00:31:27.035 --> 00:31:34.970
I'm so impressed with the
vision of our forefathers,

00:31:34.970 --> 00:31:40.265
those that came before us
in the '30s, '40s, '50s,

00:31:40.265 --> 00:31:44.345
their vision to create

00:31:44.345 --> 00:31:47.330
the infrastructure throughout
the United States,

00:31:47.330 --> 00:31:51.680
the water infrastructure of
locks and dams and harbors,

00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:55.115
ports, levees, hydropower,

00:31:55.115 --> 00:31:59.300
they truly had a vision for

00:31:59.300 --> 00:32:04.160
advancing the standard of
living in this country.

00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:08.030
Being able to
increase commerce of

00:32:08.030 --> 00:32:12.440
Ag products from the agricultural
areas of the country,

00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:15.180
through the rivers,
to the ports.

00:32:15.190 --> 00:32:20.150
I say this because I
say our generation,

00:32:20.150 --> 00:32:24.650
I'm not sure we've been as
visionary as our forefathers.

00:32:24.650 --> 00:32:26.705
We should all I think

00:32:26.705 --> 00:32:29.810
give them the credit
where credit is due.

00:32:29.810 --> 00:32:31.760
I think you,

00:32:31.760 --> 00:32:33.455
the younger generation,

00:32:33.455 --> 00:32:38.690
coming out of universities
such as Virginia Tech as you

00:32:38.690 --> 00:32:44.015
go forward into practice and
working on various projects,

00:32:44.015 --> 00:32:46.775
you're the next generation that

00:32:46.775 --> 00:32:49.865
can make a difference,
if you will,

00:32:49.865 --> 00:32:54.800
into keeping our infrastructure

00:32:54.800 --> 00:32:59.280
operating and at a
high level of safety.

00:32:59.740 --> 00:33:03.980
Again, I find those statistics

00:33:03.980 --> 00:33:06.485
rather fascinating but again,

00:33:06.485 --> 00:33:10.290
try to give credit to the
previous generations.

00:33:10.330 --> 00:33:14.720
Transitioning from
the traditional view

00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:16.520
of infrastructure of safety

00:33:16.520 --> 00:33:22.820
was generally fundamental
engineering strengths

00:33:22.820 --> 00:33:23.870
of materials,

00:33:23.870 --> 00:33:28.055
geologic characterization,
laboratory testing to

00:33:28.055 --> 00:33:30.770
identify engineering
properties of

00:33:30.770 --> 00:33:32.570
materials and from there,

00:33:32.570 --> 00:33:37.610
utilize existing materials
to design dams or levees,

00:33:37.610 --> 00:33:39.710
and construct them
with stable slopes

00:33:39.710 --> 00:33:41.540
and such that they could handle

00:33:41.540 --> 00:33:44.930
the hydrologic and seismic loads

00:33:44.930 --> 00:33:47.735
without failure and this were,

00:33:47.735 --> 00:33:50.705
and still are standards-based.

00:33:50.705 --> 00:33:56.060
You're certainly experiencing
all of those factors,

00:33:56.060 --> 00:33:59.090
all of those areas
as you continue and

00:33:59.090 --> 00:34:04.160
progress through your education.

00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:09.095
But in the last 30 years,

00:34:09.095 --> 00:34:11.390
at least in the federal world,

00:34:11.390 --> 00:34:14.000
and it's slowly
transitioning from federal

00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:18.200
to states and other
private owners,

00:34:18.200 --> 00:34:20.105
we're transitioning to get to

00:34:20.105 --> 00:34:24.605
a risk-informed view
of the infrastructure.

00:34:24.605 --> 00:34:27.440
In that context, you'll hear

00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:29.740
the word risk almost

00:34:29.740 --> 00:34:33.355
universally in just
about every sentence.

00:34:33.355 --> 00:34:37.855
Fundamentally, it's a
function of the hazard,

00:34:37.855 --> 00:34:41.570
the loading response
to that loading,

00:34:41.570 --> 00:34:44.570
and evaluating the consequences.

00:34:44.570 --> 00:34:48.320
As I said in the early
days of dam safety,

00:34:48.320 --> 00:34:50.960
when I was working at
the Bureau of Rec,

00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:54.935
we, I think, did a good job

00:34:54.935 --> 00:34:58.955
of evaluating the
potential failure modes.

00:34:58.955 --> 00:35:02.255
We might not have used
that particular term,

00:35:02.255 --> 00:35:05.660
but we certainly identified
the geologic conditions,

00:35:05.660 --> 00:35:09.440
evaluated strengths
of materials,

00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:12.800
and decided whether we
needed a cutoff wall,

00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:15.980
or whether we needed to
grout the foundation or do

00:35:15.980 --> 00:35:19.820
some other special means
of foundation treatment.

00:35:19.820 --> 00:35:23.180
We stood on the crest
of the dam and said,

00:35:23.180 --> 00:35:25.310
well, there's a lot
of people down there,

00:35:25.310 --> 00:35:30.920
but we didn't really
exert the analysis to

00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:36.050
categorize and assimilate
that information

00:35:36.050 --> 00:35:37.970
as it was part of
our decision-making,

00:35:37.970 --> 00:35:41.375
it was not really a
formal part of that.

00:35:41.375 --> 00:35:44.165
Again, as we transferred,

00:35:44.165 --> 00:35:46.955
if you will, into

00:35:46.955 --> 00:35:49.760
those risk-informed
decision-making process,

00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:51.650
which is the guiding
principles for

00:35:51.650 --> 00:35:53.720
our safety programs, again,

00:35:53.720 --> 00:35:55.880
we spent a lot of time and

00:35:55.880 --> 00:35:59.345
rigor to evaluate the
loading conditions,

00:35:59.345 --> 00:36:02.840
assessed how the
dam or levee would

00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:06.215
perform under those loading
conditions, and certainly,

00:36:06.215 --> 00:36:08.150
we've put a lot more rigor in

00:36:08.150 --> 00:36:14.400
assessing the potential
consequences.

00:36:16.680 --> 00:36:22.915
It certainly has
been well served

00:36:22.915 --> 00:36:29.800
in coordinating in the federal
community of dam owners.

00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:32.710
But it's also been very
powerful in communicating

00:36:32.710 --> 00:36:35.650
with our legislatures
in each state,

00:36:35.650 --> 00:36:38.230
as well as Congress in terms of

00:36:38.230 --> 00:36:41.650
defining the condition
of our infrastructure.

00:36:41.650 --> 00:36:46.450
As I said, average age of
dams is 65 plus years.

00:36:46.450 --> 00:36:50.590
There's over 600,000 bridges
in the United States,

00:36:50.590 --> 00:36:54.040
150,000 miles of levees,

00:36:54.040 --> 00:37:01.075
untold numbers of roads and
pavement, and that thing.

00:37:01.075 --> 00:37:02.830
Again, the extent of

00:37:02.830 --> 00:37:05.080
our infrastructure
that we all benefit

00:37:05.080 --> 00:37:09.820
from is truly amazing
when you consider it.

00:37:09.820 --> 00:37:11.560
Truly, most of it
has been built in

00:37:11.560 --> 00:37:15.535
the last 100 years
of our country.

00:37:15.535 --> 00:37:18.685
Being able to articulate

00:37:18.685 --> 00:37:22.540
to the legislatures
and to Congress

00:37:22.540 --> 00:37:29.470
about our needs as agencies
like the Core, Bureau, TVA.

00:37:29.470 --> 00:37:31.540
We have this infrastructure.

00:37:31.540 --> 00:37:33.460
It's in this condition.

00:37:33.460 --> 00:37:35.755
We need these monies

00:37:35.755 --> 00:37:38.650
appropriated so that
we can go forth and

00:37:38.650 --> 00:37:41.410
execute modifications
or repairs to

00:37:41.410 --> 00:37:45.355
these structures to maintain
their serviceability.

00:37:45.355 --> 00:37:48.460
Again, a very
interesting graph here.

00:37:48.460 --> 00:37:51.160
This is a chart over

00:37:51.160 --> 00:37:56.215
the last 120 years
from 1,900 present,

00:37:56.215 --> 00:37:59.980
showing the number of

00:37:59.980 --> 00:38:03.070
dams constructed in
the United States.

00:38:03.070 --> 00:38:07.960
You can see after World
War II, '30s, '40s, '50s,

00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:13.330
just a tremendous amount of
dams that were designed and

00:38:13.330 --> 00:38:18.580
constructed in the United
States by the Bureau,

00:38:18.580 --> 00:38:24.550
core, TVA, other agencies
and organizations.

00:38:24.550 --> 00:38:28.420
Since the '80s dam
construction with

00:38:28.420 --> 00:38:33.950
the implementation of
environmental regulations.

00:38:34.440 --> 00:38:38.800
Certainly, it's more
challenging to move forward

00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:42.655
and modify structures,
giving those regulations.

00:38:42.655 --> 00:38:45.850
I've had the great fortune
worked on the last two dam,

00:38:45.850 --> 00:38:48.385
major dams built in
the United States.

00:38:48.385 --> 00:38:50.050
Ridges Base and dam for

00:38:50.050 --> 00:38:52.360
the bureau outside of
Durango, Colorado,

00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:56.395
and the core constructed
Portuguese dam,

00:38:56.395 --> 00:39:01.645
RCC Dam outside of
Ponce, Puerto Rico.

00:39:01.645 --> 00:39:03.340
Again, I've been blessed in

00:39:03.340 --> 00:39:05.425
that I've been able to work on

00:39:05.425 --> 00:39:07.000
a significant number of

00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:10.795
dams around the country
and around the world.

00:39:10.795 --> 00:39:15.445
I've been able to also
modify and work on several.

00:39:15.445 --> 00:39:18.955
Again, having ended my
career with the core,

00:39:18.955 --> 00:39:20.680
I have quite a few statistics

00:39:20.680 --> 00:39:22.390
primarily focused on the core.

00:39:22.390 --> 00:39:28.000
Again, the core in their
portfolio has 715 dams,

00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:32.515
almost 90% 86% are
embankment dams.

00:39:32.515 --> 00:39:35.830
The average height around
93 feet, and again,

00:39:35.830 --> 00:39:40.520
average age 65 years or so.

00:39:41.070 --> 00:39:44.950
This is just a map of the
United States showing where

00:39:44.950 --> 00:39:49.750
the major dams are located
within the core inventory.

00:39:49.750 --> 00:39:52.840
Again, the core has
715, the bureau,

00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:56.380
around 400 TVA around 200.

00:39:56.380 --> 00:40:00.385
Burke regulates
2,200 dams or so,

00:40:00.385 --> 00:40:03.250
and then NRCS has approximately

00:40:03.250 --> 00:40:07.630
22,000 dams in their inventory.

00:40:07.630 --> 00:40:12.580
Over the last decade as
the cores transitioned

00:40:12.580 --> 00:40:16.810
from two risk-informed
decision-making,

00:40:16.810 --> 00:40:19.315
they have assessed each
of their structures.

00:40:19.315 --> 00:40:21.040
You'll see this chart,

00:40:21.040 --> 00:40:23.275
this is FM chart.

00:40:23.275 --> 00:40:30.100
The X is annual probability
of failure versus life loss.

00:40:30.100 --> 00:40:33.625
Dots that plot above the line

00:40:33.625 --> 00:40:37.510
are pieces of
infrastructure dams,

00:40:37.510 --> 00:40:41.440
levees, locks that
have high risk.

00:40:41.440 --> 00:40:42.970
They've been assessed.

00:40:42.970 --> 00:40:45.745
Failure modes have
been developed,

00:40:45.745 --> 00:40:47.920
and evaluated and judged by

00:40:47.920 --> 00:40:50.995
a multi-disciplinary
engineering team

00:40:50.995 --> 00:40:52.540
that the dam needs to be

00:40:52.540 --> 00:40:55.495
modified or the
levee needs to be

00:40:55.495 --> 00:40:59.995
modified to obtain or
maintain safe operation.

00:40:59.995 --> 00:41:05.470
Almost half of the 3,000
pieces of infrastructure

00:41:05.470 --> 00:41:07.900
that the core maintains and

00:41:07.900 --> 00:41:10.660
operates on behalf
of the country,

00:41:10.660 --> 00:41:13.975
about half of that
inventory needs

00:41:13.975 --> 00:41:17.860
is judged to be high risk
and needs to be modified.

00:41:17.860 --> 00:41:20.800
In addition to dams and levees,

00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:26.335
the core operates about
240 lock structures

00:41:26.335 --> 00:41:31.190
on the major river
systems in the country,

00:41:31.710 --> 00:41:37.225
again representing a
value of $3 trillion.

00:41:37.225 --> 00:41:42.985
Again, a tremendous
portfolio of infrastructure.

00:41:42.985 --> 00:41:45.880
As the core has transitioned,

00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:48.460
they would tell
you that it's not

00:41:48.460 --> 00:41:53.305
necessarily the structure
of 65 years old it's

00:41:53.305 --> 00:41:57.010
because the major risk
drivers that have been

00:41:57.010 --> 00:41:59.035
identified is just there were

00:41:59.035 --> 00:42:01.630
defects or flaws in the design.

00:42:01.630 --> 00:42:03.700
The state of practice,

00:42:03.700 --> 00:42:06.550
material technologies
have changed.

00:42:06.550 --> 00:42:09.910
Concrete is iron-trained now,

00:42:09.910 --> 00:42:13.360
with many additives so the
durability of concrete

00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:17.005
is much better than it was
say back in the '20s or '30s,

00:42:17.005 --> 00:42:18.895
those kinds of things.

00:42:18.895 --> 00:42:20.290
But as you can appreciate,

00:42:20.290 --> 00:42:23.305
the country's population
has increased

00:42:23.305 --> 00:42:27.190
dramatically in the
last 100 years.

00:42:27.190 --> 00:42:32.350
Last census, we're somewhere
around 330 million people

00:42:32.350 --> 00:42:33.940
in this country so

00:42:33.940 --> 00:42:37.435
the amount of consequences

00:42:37.435 --> 00:42:41.920
the property development houses,

00:42:41.920 --> 00:42:43.810
people living behind dams or

00:42:43.810 --> 00:42:46.525
levees has grown exponentially,

00:42:46.525 --> 00:42:49.195
thereby creating the risk.

00:42:49.195 --> 00:42:54.610
Fundamentally risk
inform methodology

00:42:54.610 --> 00:42:57.550
allows organizations
such as the bureau

00:42:57.550 --> 00:43:00.940
or the Core to be able
to rack and stack.

00:43:00.940 --> 00:43:04.360
If you own 3,000 pieces
of infrastructure,

00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:07.645
how do you decide what
to work on first?

00:43:07.645 --> 00:43:13.720
Risk has been very powerful
in being able to assimilate,

00:43:13.720 --> 00:43:16.420
evaluate the portfolio
of infrastructure,

00:43:16.420 --> 00:43:19.885
and be able to decide this
is Number 1 priority,

00:43:19.885 --> 00:43:23.245
and this is Number
3,000 priority.

00:43:23.245 --> 00:43:25.780
Again, it's very
powerful in working,

00:43:25.780 --> 00:43:28.720
coordinating with
legislatures and Congress,

00:43:28.720 --> 00:43:31.540
to be able to tell that story in

00:43:31.540 --> 00:43:34.360
a compelling and persuasive
manner such that you

00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:38.350
can solicit and
obtain the funding

00:43:38.350 --> 00:43:42.640
so you can go forth and
maintain these structures.

00:43:42.640 --> 00:43:44.575
Again, the Core has

00:43:44.575 --> 00:43:48.265
spent a considerable
amount of effort,

00:43:48.265 --> 00:43:50.440
money, and labor hours,

00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:56.005
to develop databases
and be able to continue

00:43:56.005 --> 00:44:01.750
to track the condition
of the infrastructure.

00:44:01.750 --> 00:44:07.870
As I said, having these
statistics, this information,

00:44:07.870 --> 00:44:09.610
we've been able to tell

00:44:09.610 --> 00:44:12.970
a very powerful and
compelling message

00:44:12.970 --> 00:44:14.710
to the legislature.

00:44:14.710 --> 00:44:18.850
This is just a general graph,

00:44:18.850 --> 00:44:20.410
if you will, or chart,

00:44:20.410 --> 00:44:25.030
being able to identify
and depict and show

00:44:25.030 --> 00:44:27.910
a particular failure mode and is

00:44:27.910 --> 00:44:31.390
it a high likelihood and
what's the consequences.

00:44:31.390 --> 00:44:33.940
Of course, red being more
critical than green.

00:44:33.940 --> 00:44:36.490
But again, this, you might all

00:44:36.490 --> 00:44:39.190
view it as rather straightforward
and commonsensical.

00:44:39.190 --> 00:44:40.840
But nonetheless, it still

00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:43.960
becomes a powerful
tool to be able to

00:44:43.960 --> 00:44:49.255
communicate this in terms
of what do you know,

00:44:49.255 --> 00:44:52.015
what do you not
know, what truly?

00:44:52.015 --> 00:44:53.575
Try to be able to

00:44:53.575 --> 00:44:57.310
assimilate information and
be able to tell that story.

00:44:57.310 --> 00:45:01.270
You're able to tell where
the source of risk is.

00:45:01.270 --> 00:45:05.170
Then through engineering,
you're able to be able to

00:45:05.170 --> 00:45:08.110
identify those
engineering solutions

00:45:08.110 --> 00:45:10.360
that you're asking
money for to go forth,

00:45:10.360 --> 00:45:13.420
so fundamental to any of

00:45:13.420 --> 00:45:16.030
the dam safety levee
safety programs

00:45:16.030 --> 00:45:17.605
ongoing in the country.

00:45:17.605 --> 00:45:20.890
Life safety is paramount.

00:45:20.890 --> 00:45:24.340
You'll hear it, and
it may sound cliche,

00:45:24.340 --> 00:45:27.520
but nonetheless, it's truly
the guiding principle.

00:45:27.520 --> 00:45:31.480
Life safety is the
critical aspect of

00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:33.865
decision maker
sitting at a table

00:45:33.865 --> 00:45:36.820
evaluating information and
trying to make decision.

00:45:36.820 --> 00:45:41.890
Again, somewhat cliche, but
we say it all the time in

00:45:41.890 --> 00:45:44.050
our meetings and as we evaluate

00:45:44.050 --> 00:45:47.155
structures and try to make
decisions, we do no harm.

00:45:47.155 --> 00:45:49.660
If we need to modify
the structure.

00:45:49.660 --> 00:45:53.800
The principle is do no
harm let's modify it,

00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:55.870
but let's not increase
the risk during

00:45:55.870 --> 00:46:00.500
the construction period
to unacceptable levels.

00:46:00.900 --> 00:46:03.835
I think one of the great things

00:46:03.835 --> 00:46:06.280
with the transitioning to risk

00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:08.800
informed is we're
now starting to

00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:11.965
really focus on
systems approach.

00:46:11.965 --> 00:46:14.590
We're thinking of the
Mississippi River or

00:46:14.590 --> 00:46:17.905
the Ohio River as
its own system.

00:46:17.905 --> 00:46:20.670
We're not just
focused on lock and

00:46:20.670 --> 00:46:23.865
dam 26 outside of
St. Louis we're

00:46:23.865 --> 00:46:29.050
truly looking at the river as

00:46:29.050 --> 00:46:31.300
a system similar with like

00:46:31.300 --> 00:46:32.740
the Missouri River that has

00:46:32.740 --> 00:46:36.265
some very significant
dams, Fort Peck.

00:46:36.265 --> 00:46:38.710
These are some of
the largest Earth

00:46:38.710 --> 00:46:42.925
dams the world on
the Missouri River.

00:46:42.925 --> 00:46:47.455
When we go through
and evaluate them,

00:46:47.455 --> 00:46:49.990
we're truly looking
at it as a system and

00:46:49.990 --> 00:46:53.320
looking at the potential
for cascading failures.

00:46:53.320 --> 00:46:55.015
If say, Fort Peck

00:46:55.015 --> 00:46:58.120
released its tremendous
volume downstream,

00:46:58.120 --> 00:47:02.090
how would that impact
the lower dams?

00:47:02.490 --> 00:47:07.120
Very powerful. It's very
periodic and continuing,

00:47:07.120 --> 00:47:10.620
so the regulations policy

00:47:10.620 --> 00:47:13.710
that's been developed
every 10 years.

00:47:13.710 --> 00:47:17.475
Every 10 years, a dam
or a levee goes through

00:47:17.475 --> 00:47:20.380
a very rigorous inspection by

00:47:20.380 --> 00:47:23.455
a very experienced,
multi-disciplined team.

00:47:23.455 --> 00:47:26.740
That information
again, is evaluated.

00:47:26.740 --> 00:47:30.325
Failure modes are reevaluated,

00:47:30.325 --> 00:47:32.410
and those that
rise to the top as

00:47:32.410 --> 00:47:37.310
the highest risk are
those that are worked on.

00:47:38.950 --> 00:47:41.630
Some of the lessons learned as

00:47:41.630 --> 00:47:44.915
we've transitioned
over the last decade

00:47:44.915 --> 00:47:48.740
is many would view

00:47:48.740 --> 00:47:53.990
standards-based
approach as inadequate.

00:47:53.990 --> 00:47:57.815
Problems typically have been

00:47:57.815 --> 00:48:01.890
shown to be larger
than we expected.

00:48:01.900 --> 00:48:06.500
Again, over half
of the pieces of

00:48:06.500 --> 00:48:08.480
inventory that the core manager

00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:10.925
has judged to be
in need of repair.

00:48:10.925 --> 00:48:12.320
Again, given their age,

00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:14.570
that really probably
isn't a surprise.

00:48:14.570 --> 00:48:18.230
But again, being able
to evaluate them,

00:48:18.230 --> 00:48:20.630
assimilate them, be able
to figure out whether

00:48:20.630 --> 00:48:23.180
it's a concrete
deterioration problem,

00:48:23.180 --> 00:48:25.715
or the valves need
to be replaced,

00:48:25.715 --> 00:48:29.330
or the gates need to
be upgraded again

00:48:29.330 --> 00:48:33.710
are all very important
as we move forward.

00:48:33.710 --> 00:48:38.540
Certainly it's not always
intuitive what's risky,

00:48:38.540 --> 00:48:41.420
and we have to keep
reminding ourselves,

00:48:41.420 --> 00:48:44.885
certainly it's a marathon
and not a sprint.

00:48:44.885 --> 00:48:49.750
We've been able to
become much more

00:48:49.750 --> 00:48:52.840
intelligent about the status

00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:55.000
of our infrastructure
in this country,

00:48:55.000 --> 00:49:00.010
dams, bridges,
levees, those things.

00:49:00.010 --> 00:49:03.160
I think those of us in

00:49:03.160 --> 00:49:07.520
the federal agencies being
responsible for the portfolio,

00:49:07.520 --> 00:49:09.920
we definitely go to
sleep at night believing

00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:12.560
that we're taking care of

00:49:12.560 --> 00:49:14.330
the taxpayers money in

00:49:14.330 --> 00:49:17.090
a very responsible manner and

00:49:17.090 --> 00:49:21.540
definitely serving the
citizens of the United States.

00:49:21.970 --> 00:49:25.175
Moving on to some of

00:49:25.175 --> 00:49:30.785
the concepts and practice
of risk assessment.

00:49:30.785 --> 00:49:35.840
It started back in the '80s.

00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:40.055
You can see this chart
here where dams fall.

00:49:40.055 --> 00:49:46.070
Generally all areas
were evaluated,

00:49:46.070 --> 00:49:49.910
chemical engineering,
railroads, those things.

00:49:49.910 --> 00:49:54.090
You can see consequence
of failure.

00:49:54.880 --> 00:49:59.135
Probability of failure
was generally 10^-4.

00:49:59.135 --> 00:50:01.205
One in 10,000 is

00:50:01.205 --> 00:50:05.630
generally the average
probability of something

00:50:05.630 --> 00:50:12.470
failing like a dam or levee.

00:50:12.470 --> 00:50:17.390
Again, started in
earnest in the '80s,

00:50:17.390 --> 00:50:20.850
certainly with NASA,

00:50:20.850 --> 00:50:25.090
the space program, and
the development of

00:50:25.090 --> 00:50:28.640
rocket travel and all of

00:50:28.640 --> 00:50:31.400
the engineering that goes
associated with that in

00:50:31.400 --> 00:50:34.220
terms of failure modes certainly

00:50:34.220 --> 00:50:36.050
brought that forward as

00:50:36.050 --> 00:50:41.610
far of other civil
infrastructure.

00:50:41.650 --> 00:50:48.035
Again, 1979 Federal
Guidelines in 1983,

00:50:48.035 --> 00:50:53.390
Research Council was
the pioneering aspect

00:50:53.390 --> 00:50:55.325
for the federal agencies.

00:50:55.325 --> 00:51:00.350
In this Dam Safety
Act of '78, '79,

00:51:00.350 --> 00:51:05.810
there was specific
language written

00:51:05.810 --> 00:51:08.210
that focused the
agencies to start

00:51:08.210 --> 00:51:11.975
thinking in terms of
risk and failure modes.

00:51:11.975 --> 00:51:15.620
Again, a lot of
this has its root

00:51:15.620 --> 00:51:20.460
in the space world NASA.

00:51:21.010 --> 00:51:24.110
As you can see other countries,

00:51:24.110 --> 00:51:28.910
in Britain, Hong Kong,

00:51:28.910 --> 00:51:31.055
and in particular in Australia,

00:51:31.055 --> 00:51:35.090
those countries also
began developing

00:51:35.090 --> 00:51:38.030
the methodologies
and the processes

00:51:38.030 --> 00:51:40.610
that we continue to utilize.

00:51:40.610 --> 00:51:47.330
In late '70s transitioning
through the '80s and the '90s,

00:51:47.330 --> 00:51:51.080
reclamation probably led
other federal agencies

00:51:51.080 --> 00:51:55.730
in developing risk
informed decision making.

00:51:55.730 --> 00:52:01.010
The first study was done
for Jackson Lake Dam

00:52:01.010 --> 00:52:05.780
in 1976 and was led
by Larry Von Thun,

00:52:05.780 --> 00:52:09.470
who really pioneered
the development

00:52:09.470 --> 00:52:13.940
of risk analysis along with
Dr. John Smart at the bureau.

00:52:13.940 --> 00:52:17.540
There was a team formed
and they developed

00:52:17.540 --> 00:52:21.020
the first guidelines,
if you will.

00:52:21.020 --> 00:52:24.635
Larry worked with
the Canadian hydros,

00:52:24.635 --> 00:52:26.735
BC Hydro in particular,

00:52:26.735 --> 00:52:30.260
and began developing
the processes where

00:52:30.260 --> 00:52:35.990
we evaluated the structures,
developed failure modes,

00:52:35.990 --> 00:52:40.175
and went through a
methodology to evaluate,

00:52:40.175 --> 00:52:42.890
could a dam fail
and start assessing

00:52:42.890 --> 00:52:46.160
probabilities of a
potential failure mode.

00:52:46.160 --> 00:52:48.830
Parallel to that, we also put

00:52:48.830 --> 00:52:51.560
a lot of rigor
into upgrading and

00:52:51.560 --> 00:52:54.320
reevaluating the
hydrologic floods

00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:57.245
and the seismic
earthquake loadings

00:52:57.245 --> 00:52:59.690
and certainly then there
was a lot more rigor

00:52:59.690 --> 00:53:04.470
put into evaluating
consequences.

00:53:04.990 --> 00:53:09.170
The bureau has been
through their inventory of

00:53:09.170 --> 00:53:14.030
400 structures in
the last 40 years.

00:53:14.030 --> 00:53:17.390
They've been through
it 4-5 times.

00:53:17.390 --> 00:53:20.375
Essentially, they have fixed

00:53:20.375 --> 00:53:23.720
their highest risk structures
in those 40 years,

00:53:23.720 --> 00:53:26.210
but they continue to
monitor them through

00:53:26.210 --> 00:53:27.800
the instrumentation and through

00:53:27.800 --> 00:53:30.500
their inspection program,

00:53:30.500 --> 00:53:34.220
and continually
re-evaluate failure modes

00:53:34.220 --> 00:53:37.010
and re-evaluate the
loading conditions and

00:53:37.010 --> 00:53:40.115
consequences and
continually updating

00:53:40.115 --> 00:53:46.170
the risk assessment if you
will or the risk category.

00:53:46.600 --> 00:53:51.650
Again moving forward, trying
to apply to the timeline.

00:53:51.650 --> 00:53:55.370
You're transitioning from '70s

00:53:55.370 --> 00:53:57.530
through the '80s to the current.

00:53:57.530 --> 00:54:00.890
Now, if you're involved
in the business,

00:54:00.890 --> 00:54:04.380
certainly the states are
becoming very active.

00:54:04.690 --> 00:54:06.740
Trying to move forward.

00:54:06.740 --> 00:54:09.480
I think I'm pressed
for time a bit.

00:54:10.240 --> 00:54:13.850
Again, a busy slide,
so I apologize.

00:54:13.850 --> 00:54:15.560
But again, trying to summarize

00:54:15.560 --> 00:54:20.430
the various milestones
along the time lines.

00:54:24.550 --> 00:54:27.380
Trying to move forward a bit.

00:54:27.380 --> 00:54:29.645
To give you a bit of context,

00:54:29.645 --> 00:54:31.640
what is damn safety risks?

00:54:31.640 --> 00:54:33.440
It's simply the probability of

00:54:33.440 --> 00:54:37.010
some undesirable event
occurring that would

00:54:37.010 --> 00:54:40.910
generate serious
economic consequences

00:54:40.910 --> 00:54:43.310
or life loss downstream.

00:54:43.310 --> 00:54:45.620
I said we wouldn't
have formulas,

00:54:45.620 --> 00:54:47.390
but here's the risk formula,

00:54:47.390 --> 00:54:51.270
which is again the
probabilities of the loading.

00:54:51.940 --> 00:54:55.910
Evaluating the probability of

00:54:55.910 --> 00:54:57.530
the response of the structure to

00:54:57.530 --> 00:55:00.020
the loading by the consequences.

00:55:00.020 --> 00:55:03.110
As I said, considerable amount

00:55:03.110 --> 00:55:06.605
of energy within
the federal world

00:55:06.605 --> 00:55:09.440
and in academia
around the country

00:55:09.440 --> 00:55:13.790
to evaluate the
loading conditions.

00:55:13.790 --> 00:55:19.340
I know those of you in hydraulic
engineering, certainly,

00:55:19.340 --> 00:55:20.915
considerable amount of effort

00:55:20.915 --> 00:55:23.150
ongoing at this university with

00:55:23.150 --> 00:55:26.930
seismic research and
seismic evaluations,

00:55:26.930 --> 00:55:29.105
trying to do better,

00:55:29.105 --> 00:55:32.315
and get more educated

00:55:32.315 --> 00:55:36.125
on what those loads are and
how structures would respond.

00:55:36.125 --> 00:55:39.635
Again, this is a
typical event tree.

00:55:39.635 --> 00:55:43.010
Typically there's eight nodes,

00:55:43.010 --> 00:55:45.635
if you will, to a
typical event tree.

00:55:45.635 --> 00:55:49.430
Is there a flaw and
what is the loading?

00:55:49.430 --> 00:55:51.980
Then stepping through
whether that would

00:55:51.980 --> 00:55:55.340
create a failure of

00:55:55.340 --> 00:55:58.560
the structure and release
of the reservoir.

00:55:59.020 --> 00:56:04.250
Several software programs
have been developed.

00:56:04.250 --> 00:56:06.680
LifeSym and others, continually

00:56:06.680 --> 00:56:09.470
being developed and upgraded to

00:56:09.470 --> 00:56:13.040
evaluate the
consequences and with

00:56:13.040 --> 00:56:16.715
today's GIS technology
being able to

00:56:16.715 --> 00:56:21.275
truly look at limits of
inundation from breach,

00:56:21.275 --> 00:56:24.770
and quickly assessing population

00:56:24.770 --> 00:56:27.860
at risk and assessing
potential life loss.

00:56:27.860 --> 00:56:30.560
Again, the rigor and
the ability with

00:56:30.560 --> 00:56:34.910
today's technology to do
that is just amazing.

00:56:34.910 --> 00:56:38.090
With that there's
always uncertainty,

00:56:38.090 --> 00:56:41.090
so we're definitely
always trying to

00:56:41.090 --> 00:56:45.425
assess if we make a risk
evaluation how certain are we,

00:56:45.425 --> 00:56:48.320
what are the bands
of uncertainty and

00:56:48.320 --> 00:56:51.800
certainly factor that
into decision making.

00:56:51.800 --> 00:56:57.510
There's aleatoric or
statistical uncertainty.

00:56:57.670 --> 00:57:02.480
An example, might be
statistical variation in

00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:05.240
a filter boundary that you

00:57:05.240 --> 00:57:08.240
can evaluate from
controlled laboratory test.

00:57:08.240 --> 00:57:11.825
Epistemic uncertainty is,

00:57:11.825 --> 00:57:13.745
if you didn't know about it,

00:57:13.745 --> 00:57:17.000
that creates its own
level of uncertainty,

00:57:17.000 --> 00:57:23.450
so those things are included
in a risk assessment.

00:57:23.450 --> 00:57:27.305
There has been numerous
guidelines developed.

00:57:27.305 --> 00:57:29.900
The federal guidelines
for dam safety

00:57:29.900 --> 00:57:34.730
was put out in '79 as
part of the legislation.

00:57:34.730 --> 00:57:38.420
The bureau's first risk
protection guidelines

00:57:38.420 --> 00:57:40.445
came out in '97.

00:57:40.445 --> 00:57:45.605
Core published their dam
safety guidelines in 2011,

00:57:45.605 --> 00:57:47.810
and then all the
federal agencies put

00:57:47.810 --> 00:57:50.465
out the federal
guidelines in '15.

00:57:50.465 --> 00:57:52.205
Most recently fur

00:57:52.205 --> 00:57:55.700
the Federal Energy Regulatory
Commission has issued

00:57:55.700 --> 00:57:58.490
their own risk
guidelines which are

00:57:58.490 --> 00:58:01.820
similar to the core
and to the bureau's.

00:58:01.820 --> 00:58:07.685
Again, they regulate about
2,200 dams in the country.

00:58:07.685 --> 00:58:09.260
As you can appreciate,

00:58:09.260 --> 00:58:11.270
there's various levels of

00:58:11.270 --> 00:58:15.350
risk analysis from a screening
level to a moderate,

00:58:15.350 --> 00:58:18.320
to a very though and
complex depending

00:58:18.320 --> 00:58:21.545
on what decision
you need to make.

00:58:21.545 --> 00:58:23.960
Certainly the more
rigor that goes into

00:58:23.960 --> 00:58:26.645
it with more
information allows for

00:58:26.645 --> 00:58:34.210
a robust evaluation and
very solid information

00:58:34.210 --> 00:58:37.000
for decision makers
to make in terms

00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:39.405
of figuring out what

00:58:39.405 --> 00:58:41.960
structure needs to
be worked on first.

00:58:41.960 --> 00:58:45.065
Again, this summarizes
those four levels.

00:58:45.065 --> 00:58:47.120
Level 1 being the simplest,

00:58:47.120 --> 00:58:49.055
the screening risk analysis,

00:58:49.055 --> 00:58:51.875
Level 4 being the most rigorous.

00:58:51.875 --> 00:58:54.860
Sometimes like for Oroville

00:58:54.860 --> 00:58:57.935
after the spillway event there.

00:58:57.935 --> 00:59:02.540
To evaluate that structure
to a Level 4 screening took

00:59:02.540 --> 00:59:04.880
several million dollars and took

00:59:04.880 --> 00:59:08.960
about six months of about
30 people working on it,

00:59:08.960 --> 00:59:12.800
so it's not a trivial level

00:59:12.800 --> 00:59:15.110
of effort or trivial
amount of money.

00:59:15.110 --> 00:59:17.780
When you talk about doing

00:59:17.780 --> 00:59:20.240
a very detailed risk analysis

00:59:20.240 --> 00:59:23.195
for complex structures
like Oroville.

00:59:23.195 --> 00:59:25.880
The Core and the Bureau
of collaborated and

00:59:25.880 --> 00:59:28.790
developed the best
practices training course.

00:59:28.790 --> 00:59:30.545
It's 40 hours,

00:59:30.545 --> 00:59:33.860
given at various locations
around the country,

00:59:33.860 --> 00:59:38.600
transitioning that to
USSD to be able to

00:59:38.600 --> 00:59:42.830
broaden the exposure of
that training to the

00:59:42.830 --> 00:59:46.010
profession. This is from FERC,

00:59:46.010 --> 00:59:48.140
this is the different levels

00:59:48.140 --> 00:59:52.490
of failure categories
that you might use as

00:59:52.490 --> 00:59:54.755
a guide when you're
making your evaluations.

00:59:54.755 --> 00:59:59.630
These are, again, several
categories that are used

00:59:59.630 --> 01:00:05.075
in assessing life safety as
well as those economics.

01:00:05.075 --> 01:00:08.075
Again, screening level
is the simplest,

01:00:08.075 --> 01:00:09.980
may take a day,

01:00:09.980 --> 01:00:11.480
may take several days.

01:00:11.480 --> 01:00:15.845
A moderate one might take
40 hours and something

01:00:15.845 --> 01:00:18.230
like a Level 4 may take

01:00:18.230 --> 01:00:22.260
several months and
several million dollars.

01:00:22.900 --> 01:00:27.830
Again, it allows in

01:00:27.830 --> 01:00:31.220
combination with standard
based typical factors

01:00:31.220 --> 01:00:33.350
of safety and strength
of materials,

01:00:33.350 --> 01:00:37.985
we're able to bring into
play the failure modes.

01:00:37.985 --> 01:00:41.555
Are they risky, are the
loading conditions correct?

01:00:41.555 --> 01:00:43.490
Be able to make

01:00:43.490 --> 01:00:47.810
a better informed decision on
behalf of the taxpayers and

01:00:47.810 --> 01:00:50.420
the citizens of the country
to be able to invest

01:00:50.420 --> 01:00:52.340
our tax dollars in

01:00:52.340 --> 01:00:55.680
the most effective
and efficient manner.

01:00:55.930 --> 01:00:59.090
Comparing standard based to

01:00:59.090 --> 01:01:02.950
RIDM if you can read
the table there,

01:01:02.950 --> 01:01:04.930
so standard base with

01:01:04.930 --> 01:01:07.585
definitely more focused
on the loading,

01:01:07.585 --> 01:01:10.150
reaction, strength of materials,

01:01:10.150 --> 01:01:14.440
stability, those evaluations.

01:01:14.440 --> 01:01:16.810
Same applies under RIDM,

01:01:16.810 --> 01:01:20.030
but we're looking
at a wider range of

01:01:20.030 --> 01:01:23.840
loadings and we truly
do assess and try to

01:01:23.840 --> 01:01:27.515
put probabilities
to those events

01:01:27.515 --> 01:01:29.390
in order to be able to rack and

01:01:29.390 --> 01:01:32.420
stack and to be
able to determine

01:01:32.420 --> 01:01:33.890
which has the highest risk and

01:01:33.890 --> 01:01:36.450
which should be worked on first.

01:01:39.550 --> 01:01:42.770
Again, these are
all the components

01:01:42.770 --> 01:01:45.845
associated with utilizing RIDM.

01:01:45.845 --> 01:01:52.265
Over the last 20 plus years
where it's been used in a

01:01:52.265 --> 01:01:54.455
detailed and part of

01:01:54.455 --> 01:01:58.430
the organization's operation
of their infrastructure.

01:01:58.430 --> 01:02:01.460
It's definitely improved
our understanding

01:02:01.460 --> 01:02:05.615
of that structure
and the pieces of it

01:02:05.615 --> 01:02:11.510
and be able to bank better
in decisions financially

01:02:11.510 --> 01:02:14.760
and from an engineering
perspective.

01:02:15.310 --> 01:02:18.740
This again summarize
the elements

01:02:18.740 --> 01:02:21.215
of dam safety risk management.

01:02:21.215 --> 01:02:23.300
You have the risk assessment,

01:02:23.300 --> 01:02:25.520
and then trying to
make decisions,

01:02:25.520 --> 01:02:28.805
typically displayed
in an FN chart.

01:02:28.805 --> 01:02:34.280
Again, probability of
failure versus loss of life,

01:02:34.280 --> 01:02:40.730
and the line there is those
summary probabilities.

01:02:40.730 --> 01:02:43.235
The plot above result in action.

01:02:43.235 --> 01:02:46.820
There higher risk and those
below would be lower.

01:02:46.820 --> 01:02:48.920
The goal is with

01:02:48.920 --> 01:02:52.100
the expenditure of
money and implementing

01:02:52.100 --> 01:02:55.730
engineering solutions would
be to reduce that risk and

01:02:55.730 --> 01:02:59.510
get your failure modes
to below the line.

01:02:59.510 --> 01:03:02.540
You'll hear that term
quite frequently.

01:03:02.540 --> 01:03:06.690
Just some final thoughts.

01:03:07.300 --> 01:03:10.610
Unfortunately, I
think in our country,

01:03:10.610 --> 01:03:14.270
particularly in my lifetime
professional career,

01:03:14.270 --> 01:03:18.020
we seem to struggle as a country

01:03:18.020 --> 01:03:22.700
to develop a long term vision,

01:03:22.700 --> 01:03:26.720
if you will, or
long term policy.

01:03:26.720 --> 01:03:32.075
Unfortunately react to
catastrophic events.

01:03:32.075 --> 01:03:35.525
Key term is catastrophic event

01:03:35.525 --> 01:03:39.530
that resulted in the
dam safety legislation,

01:03:39.530 --> 01:03:42.530
which forced federal
agencies to start taking

01:03:42.530 --> 01:03:45.770
a more robust evaluation
of their infrastructure.

01:03:45.770 --> 01:03:49.625
Katrina cause the Corps
to look at levees

01:03:49.625 --> 01:03:53.915
and to look at flood walls
and coastal protection.

01:03:53.915 --> 01:04:00.965
Unfortunately, I think we

01:04:00.965 --> 01:04:04.040
react to catastrophic events

01:04:04.040 --> 01:04:06.155
as a country and as a nation.

01:04:06.155 --> 01:04:10.385
I think as you go forward in
your continued education,

01:04:10.385 --> 01:04:12.140
as you move into the workforce

01:04:12.140 --> 01:04:15.185
and become part of
our profession,

01:04:15.185 --> 01:04:18.950
hopefully you'll leave a
lasting impression and be able

01:04:18.950 --> 01:04:22.520
to advance policy and be able to

01:04:22.520 --> 01:04:27.320
advance our profession
to a point where we do

01:04:27.320 --> 01:04:29.615
less reaction and maybe

01:04:29.615 --> 01:04:33.200
look forward and try
to do more planning.

01:04:33.200 --> 01:04:38.000
Again, tremendous
amount of damage

01:04:38.000 --> 01:04:43.230
is done by hurricanes or by
dam failures, levee failures.

01:04:45.010 --> 01:04:49.100
We all need to be cognizant of

01:04:49.100 --> 01:04:53.135
that as we continue our
education, and again,

01:04:53.135 --> 01:04:56.780
move in and be able to
help everybody associated

01:04:56.780 --> 01:04:58.850
with maintaining what we

01:04:58.850 --> 01:05:02.100
have built and our
forefathers had built.

01:05:04.330 --> 01:05:08.675
Some summary statistics of

01:05:08.675 --> 01:05:11.090
civil works value to the nation.

01:05:11.090 --> 01:05:14.600
I've again impressed for

01:05:14.600 --> 01:05:17.600
$1 that spent by
the government on

01:05:17.600 --> 01:05:19.880
flood risk management prevented

01:05:19.880 --> 01:05:25.085
over $8 return in flood
damages reduction of that.

01:05:25.085 --> 01:05:29.405
Again, our forefathers
over the last 100 years,

01:05:29.405 --> 01:05:31.970
this country has built some of

01:05:31.970 --> 01:05:38.290
the world's most robust
complicated infrastructure

01:05:38.290 --> 01:05:39.670
that we've all benefited

01:05:39.670 --> 01:05:42.055
from and certainly
as you go forward,

01:05:42.055 --> 01:05:46.130
I think you all have
that responsibility,

01:05:46.130 --> 01:05:50.840
if you will to take that
on in maintaining that.

01:05:50.840 --> 01:05:56.075
Again, ASCE puts out
their report card,

01:05:56.075 --> 01:05:59.300
as you can see, for 2021 for

01:05:59.300 --> 01:06:03.260
the various categories we're
not doing the greatest.

01:06:03.260 --> 01:06:07.580
Again, as Alan said
at the beginning,

01:06:07.580 --> 01:06:10.520
become involved in these
professional societies.

01:06:10.520 --> 01:06:12.110
In these organizations, we

01:06:12.110 --> 01:06:15.050
are the profession's
mouthpiece to

01:06:15.050 --> 01:06:17.900
our legislatures
and to our Congress

01:06:17.900 --> 01:06:21.350
in order to increase
our funding,

01:06:21.350 --> 01:06:25.370
to be able to make
infrastructure a priority.

01:06:25.370 --> 01:06:28.040
This administration
has been able

01:06:28.040 --> 01:06:29.930
to pass the infrastructure bill,

01:06:29.930 --> 01:06:32.390
which has secured funding,

01:06:32.390 --> 01:06:35.510
and it's certainly a step
in the right direction.

01:06:35.510 --> 01:06:38.270
But as you can see
by our report card,

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we still have a long ways to go

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to get up to acceptable
marks I think.

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Lastly, again, I had
the good fortune in

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my career to be associated
with some phenomenal people.

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This is a picture of
Dr. Don Deer, Dr.

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Skip Hendren, Ralph Peck,
and Spike Underwood,

01:07:01.460 --> 01:07:03.830
who was the Corps
of Engineers chief

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geologist at headquarters
for about 20 years.

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They were the consulting
board for New Adel Dam,

01:07:10.955 --> 01:07:14.975
which I was responsible
for outside of Phoenix.

01:07:14.975 --> 01:07:17.375
I was telling Alan
again at breakfast,

01:07:17.375 --> 01:07:19.820
just tremendous memories of

01:07:19.820 --> 01:07:23.045
the impact that
those gentlemen had

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on myself as a
person and certainly

01:07:26.210 --> 01:07:29.975
on my professional
career going forward.

01:07:29.975 --> 01:07:32.600
Best of luck to you in

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your education and your
professional career.

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I wish you the best.

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Again, thank you
for your courtesy

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and for your taking time

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out of your busy lives to come

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and listen to me ramble,
so I appreciate you.
