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Muslim Leaders in Australia Say Banning Terrorism Will Ban Islam
January 3, 2015 by Daniel Greenfield 229 Comments 





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They have a point. It’s just usually one that they aren’t willing to admit in public. The Jihad comes from the Koran. Every act of Muslim violence that is religiously sanctioned, from terrorism to rape, is derived from the Koran. If you ban incitement to violence against non-Muslims, you criminalize the Koran.



A Muslim cleric who preaches from certain passages of the Koran could be caught in the “broad” net of the government’s new anti-terror law, Islamic leaders have warned.
Grand Mufti of Australia Ibrahim Abu Mohammad and the Australian National Imams Council have called for the offence of “advocating terrorism” to be removed from the so-called Foreign Fighters Bill, currently before Parliament.
Islam and terrorism. The two are intertwined.
Quran (2:191-193) – “And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing.”
Quran (8:12) – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them”
Quran (9:5) – “So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them.”
You can’t ban terrorism without banning Islam.
In its submission, the Islamic Council of Victoria said the new law would incriminate Muslims who support “legitimate forms of armed struggle”, including resistance to the Assad regime in Syria and the Palestinian conflict with Israel.




So the argument is that they want to promote “good terrorism” against Jews and they don’t want to be sanctioned for it. Muslim settlers. Australia clearly needs more of them to create a tolerant society. A tolerant society which promotes the “legitimate” murder of Jews.
“Criminalising the act of ‘advocating terrorism’ adds another layer of complexity to this issue. The scope of what constitutes ‘advocating terrorism’ is unclear.”
It’s not that unclear, except to Muslims, who insist that killing terrorists is terrorism… but terrorism is legitimate.
The council identified what it says is a double standard in Muslims wanting to go to Syria and Iraq to provide aid having their passports cancelled “while ignoring the travel of Zionist Jews wishing to travel to Israel – a state which illegally occupies Palestinian territory with intention of fighting in a war against Gazans and has been accused of war crimes”.
#IllridewithyouallthewaytoISIS
But setting aside whatever views anyone may have on Israel, Aussies traveling to Israel to fight with the IDF are not going to go back to Sydney and kill people. The same can’t be said for Muslim settlers in Australia traveling to join terrorist groups.
It’s not a double standard. Australia is trying to prevent terror attacks on its own soil. Muslim leaders insist that banning terrorism will outlaw their legitimate right to kill Jews and promote the murder of non-Muslims for “legitimate” reasons.
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About Daniel Greenfield
Daniel Greenfield, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center, is a New York writer focusing on radical Islam. He is completing a book on the international challenges America faces in the 21st century.










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James Hammett



If Islam and terrorism are so indistinguishable that to ban terrorism would ban Islam then that pretty much says everything you need to about Islam.






Atikva



Duh… For once in their life, these muslims leaders are just highlighting a well-known fact.






Kyle Sewell



finally an honest admission as to the true meaning of islam






SirWilhelm



Slavery is illegal in all Western countries, too, and Islam is a slave cult. Every Muslim swears to be a slave of Allah. That makes two reasons to ban Islam from the West. Slavery and terrorism.






Go USA



Good. Band the damn thing already. It brought nothing but death and destruction wherever it went.






Ridhuvarshan



Finally a good article






pabritt



Paul check out this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkQoqVoBBCk&feature=player_detailpage#t=856






notlopsided



“muslims are dangerous and destroying the world.” I agree 100%. In my opinion, Islam is by definition treason. Therefore, it would be completely reasonable to treat them exactly as Communists were treated in the fifties for similar reasons. If they renounce their “faith”, they can stay, but if not, they must leave. Shutter all mosques and ban the Koran. But it’s not going to happen, because we in the US feel that religion is sacrosanct. It’s a very dangerous attitude.






notlopsided



Prove it.






notlopsided



Let’s look at 2.191 in its context:
[2.190] And fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you, and do not exceed the limits, surely Allah does not love those who exceed the limits.
[2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.
[2.192] But if they desist, then surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
[2.193] And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah, but if they desist, then there should be no hostility except against the oppressors.
Please detail how context will ameliorate the main message of 2.191 to a sincere reader who comprehends it to mean that God wants him to kill unbelievers wherever he finds them.






Blake



Europe is screwed






psiEnergos



Let’s put this in context with another ridiculous example: So banning arson should not happen because someone, somewhere out there worships fire, and they believe to ban burning what they please is to effectively ban their religion? Well tough! If your religion runs counter to the culture in which it is being practiced, the culture, or the religion is ultimately doomed. One will destroy the other through either change or conquest. If terrorist acts are vital to Islam, then it should be banned.






Joseph Oreilly



If the tenets of your so-called religion are immoral, illegal or criminal, you forfeit the protections given to ‘conscience’. If Muslims want their ‘rights’, they must be able to defend the charges. ‘It ain’t fair’ is not a defense nor is law as suicide pact.






http://facebook.com/AnnInquirer Ann Inquirer



Ideas and laws just get so convoluted by these liars who have had 1400 years of practice twisting the truth.






lin



I love it! So clever. Ban terrorism, ban Islam. Since they go hand in had, it works!






lin



They’re caught in their own lie! Islam is the ‘Religion of Peace” so why should it matter to Muslims if they ban terrorism.. This is GREAT!






GhostSpectre



criminalize it then. Ban Islam if you have to. No more innocent lives need to be lost because of this abhorrent religion






Michele



But killing the Infidel (non-Muslim) is the fasted route to Paradise. In Paradise, the terrorist/Holy Warrior, gets at least 72 perpetual virgins, an eternal erection and pearly white boys and unlimited wealth. The Koran is roughly 65% about killing, raping, plundering, extorting, enslaving the infidel (non Muslim)…Where would the Muslim be without the terror, free stuff and the orgy in the sky? Cutting the terrorism out of the Koran, would shred the Koran to bits.






Michele



No such thing as “Radical Islam”…ISLAM IS RADICAL. Muslims we consider “good Muslims”, are in fact, non-practicing ones. The terrorists, Holy Warriors, are considered by Islam to be the most devout and holy as they follow the Koran and life of their prophet.






Michele



The Koran instructs, orders Muslims to kill, torture anyone who isn’t a Muslim. Isn’t that tantamount to inciting terrorism? (The first part of the Koran, which might seem benign was before Muhammad realized he couldn’t convert the Christians and Jews and before he had his army.)






jmjoker



just take terrorist supporters and shoot them right through the head






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