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we have our incoming, that will be next year's

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President of the V. L. A. with us today

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. Susie, will you stand please? This is

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Susie Palmer from Longwood. But right now I

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would like to introduce the current president. He's going

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to say a few words to you, Kevin Smith

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. Mhm. Good morning everybody. I'm glad you're

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here for the 22nd V. L. A 

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Paraprofessional forum. Uh I regret to inform you

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that this will be the last conference of the Paraprofessional

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Forum. Only because the to counsel has approved a

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name change for the Paraprofessional Forum. It is now

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the Virginia Library Association Professional Associates Forum. So congratulations

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. Yeah. I really never liked the name

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Paraprofessional because it denoted something other than professional.

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And I consider all of you professionals and we all

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do professional service. Um You are the backbone of

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Virginia libraries and all your institutions, your public libraries

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and your academic libraries. And I always say you

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are the first line of defense between the patrons and

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the administration. And you do a really good job

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at it to you protect uh deans and directors from

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the belligerent patrons. But you have a very you

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have an act and attacked for diffusing difficult situations and

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making the customer the patron, the students happy.

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And that's what you do and you do it very

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well. And when our patrons come into the library

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, they don't care who you are or what you

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are. They just want service and they want their

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information and they want their books and that's what you

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guys do. Um If your library is like mine

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, you were the most heavily traffic. You get

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more citizens, more students in the library than any

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other administrative building where you are. Uh that's how

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it is in my library or a county. Where

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the, so that means you are the face of

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your institution. You're the face of your city.

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You are the face of your county. And that's

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what the citizens and the students remember is the service

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they receive from you guys. Next month will be

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20 years that I've been in the library profession and

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I started as a pair of professional. So and

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so I I have a pair of professionals are dear

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to my heart While you're here. I want you

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to learn a lot in the sessions. Um take

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what you can from them learn. But the I

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think the most important thing about conferences is the networking

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opportunities, get to know each other, become friends

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. And in my experience with networking, you get

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the inside scoop on the various libraries and you also

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get some really good leads on some other career opportunities

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. So that's what I recommend. Um I would

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like to thank Marion Eaton and Therese Walters

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and Lisa Varga and the paraprofessional board for making this

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happen. And uh so again thank you for all

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you do you are the face of your libraries and

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thanks. Yeah. Mhm. Trees trees anyone?

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Okay Marion has asked me to make sure that you

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take a minute and look at the ticket that you

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received when you came in. That ticket will be

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used for the door prices throughout the conference. See

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if you can find that and if it's for the

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door prizes and it'll be drawn, what does that

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say? Oh right. After this? So when

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she after she you know gives out the numbers of

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people who are winning. Then you go out and

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they'll be door prizes instead of collecting them during this

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particular session. Is that it? Yes. Yes

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. Yes. Yeah. The number. Oh.

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Uh huh. Yeah. Place to try. Did

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everybody hear her? Okay, good. Alright.

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So does everybody have one of these today, pull

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it out and turn it off If you can just

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to everybody take that awkward moment and go ahead and

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pull out your cell phones and put them on silent

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or vibrate or something. Thank you. So now

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I'm going to introduce our keynote speaker. Um first

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of all, thank you for coming to the conference

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. Our speaker is Tyler Walters and he is the

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Dean of University libraries at Virginia Tech. I won't

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go through the right up that you have probably already

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read in the program but if you have read it

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, he comes up to us today with a long

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history of working in libraries and he's worked in many

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of the positions that you all hope he is recognized

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in state, national and international circles, through coming

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to conferences like you're doing right now. So that's

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probably one of the most important things you can do

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is the most important way you can move your career

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up to go to conferences, network and learn about

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how they're doing it at other places. And so

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he very much supports people being involved in those levels

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. Um I didn't really know what else to say

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about him today. So I thought I'd tell you

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a couple of his famous quotes and see if I

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can get him going here. He's one of the

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main things that he's been known to saying is and

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I we work at his library is libraries are not

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my job there. My mission. He's absolutely made

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libraries his life mission. He thinks about it often

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on the clock and this is all he does and

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thinks about his libraries. And one of the reasons

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that he does this is another one of your famous

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quotes dr Walters is that he wants to do things

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like they do on science fiction, make all information

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available to all people forever until the end of time

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. So that is his simple goal with libraries and

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that is why he is so and free, freely

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available, not just available to the end of time

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for everybody. But um Tyler, thank you for

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coming to the conference. Thank you for sharing your

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journey and libraries and please take the podium. So

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real quick, since we're talking about beginnings, I

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might just mention my my own. So I actually

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started and archives south of the border, just south

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of the border that were close to. So I

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was kind of grew up in this field in Raleigh

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north Carolina, which is south of the border from

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where at? I was a professional associate. I

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worked half time as the assistant to the photographic archivist

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at the north Carolina state Archives. And I was

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also saturday reference staff. So I, Uh,

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even at the age of 22, I wore out

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a lot of tennis shoes running up and down stairs

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in the back of the state archives, looking for

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records for genealogists. That was a lot of fun

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. So I, that was my baptism by fire

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with reference. It was very interesting. So it's

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monday morning, we're here in Richmond. We're not

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at work. Right? So it's actually sunny outside

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if you look out there. So you're just gonna

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kind of pretend you're on vacation. But unfortunately ran

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across this library director is just kind of kind of

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Babylon for a while, but you're going to be

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charitable, right? You're gonna let me Babylon for

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a little bit. So in other words, enjoy

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distant, have fun. And I'm gonna walk through

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a little bit of kind of where I've evolved to

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in my thinking about libraries and the happy note is

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, and you're gonna see in some of the slides

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is I'm not the only one who's having these thoughts

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. I'm gonna ask you all to think a little

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bit different about Libraries and particularly library users, you

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know, who, who uses our libraries, who

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gets online, who walks in, who are they

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today in 2014 and moving forward and what are they

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, what are they doing? And that really means

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all libraries, not just academic libraries. Now myself

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as a university library dean, I think a lot

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about academic libraries research libraries in particular. But as

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Theresa knows, I just finished a PhD program last

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january through Simmons College. It was a cohort system

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. So which was excellent for me because I was

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we had a four person cohort and I was the

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only one who was really in a large university library

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. The other three were excusing were uh a college

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librarian, a state librarian and a public library in

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in a large city. So I learned an awful

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lot from them. I'm sure they learn from me

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as well. I actually have some of the work

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that we did in this presentation, but I really

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learned how, you know, I think libraries today

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in our minds were too segmented in that sense.

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We think public libraries are really different from from university

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libraries that are different from college libraries and different from

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special libraries. And yes, there are differences,

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but there's an awful lot of commonalities between them.

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So, kind of, the things that I'm talking

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about really does refer to all libraries. So what

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I'm gonna start with today is we all know we're

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going through tons and tons of change. So what

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is this change now? This is a talk I

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can do all day long by myself, but I

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have one slide, so we're not gonna go all

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day on this, on this one item, but

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kind of the external factors, make sure we're all

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kind of on the same page is what's impacting our

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libraries. I think we already know what a lot

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of those things are, what I call the ascendance

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of knowledge production. Another phrase related to that would

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be content creation. People are creating things and that's

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where I'm going to hang most of the day.

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So what are these knowledge production components that libraries can

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get involved in? And then talk a little bit

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about some of these evolving scenario is playing out what

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our library is doing that are really getting more involved

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in assisting users in producing knowledge and content. So

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why are libraries transitioning? So, we know,

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you know, some of the favorite things and this

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is where we, you know, we want to

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be careful to not, not wine, but I

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will point out my second little graphic there that all

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opportunities, all problems or opportunities in disguise, they

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really are. That's what gets me up in the

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morning, is to think I've got I've got problems

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to solve. We're going to go forward. We're

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gonna make this library great. We all know the

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economics of the matter. We all know about governments

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and lack of funding for the public sphere, and

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this is really decreasing. This is a long term

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trend that's not gonna go away. I don't really

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want to see a whole lot more about that,

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other than It's true. And we have to really

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think creatively, I think that's what for me,

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gets my creative juices going. I ask other people

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to get creative about these things, uh money is

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just not going to flow the way it was.

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there's we know there's economic challenges going on. Every

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sense of globalization, what's going on and and part

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globalization and the publishing industry. Publishing industry today truly

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is a global look at what's going on out there

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of new players. I mean those of you who

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like, you know, what is amazon doing?

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create Space. So there's an awful lot of these

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publisher themselves, not just the reseller anymore. Oh

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that changes how we look at copyright and what people

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can really do with information. And that's kind of

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what I want to keep talking about is what people

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technology piece for a little bit, we know that

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technology is changing rapidly and it's changing us. It's

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changing our work environments. It's changing our play environments

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, you name it. Everything is really changing.

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that phrase library user? What is the library user

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the Web and all the social media tools out there

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very easy to produce anything, cameras on our phones

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, all the photography, we take blogs and wikis

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for writing. Things like freeware like garageband where you

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can create music and video. Uh, this is

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all getting easier and easier and easier. So today's

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library users are actually creators and producers of content.

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you to take home with you today. Is that

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these bullets, all these different things that people people

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create now. Some of this is is has been

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around for a long time. Public libraries have long

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been host to the communities, you know, poetry

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club, book club, writing clubs, photography clubs

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, et cetera. Well, guess what? All

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those people in the neighborhoods have been creating content all

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of these years. What are people doing with that

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. Right? There's an awful lot of material.

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what are we gonna do with all of that?

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all sorts of libraries, public and academic are going

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to have to really think about how are we responding

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to these forces. Content is getting created at at

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a pace and a volume just unheard of today.

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my case on a university campus. And I get

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asked by faculty researchers who who call me up or

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email me and they're not belligerent, but there but

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they want a lot from us. And I've got

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people who walk in and say, well, I'm

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doing this experiment and next week I'm creating 70 terabytes

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of data. What do I do with it?

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Can you help me? Tyler? So, you

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know, 20 years ago, the idea of dealing

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with 20 terabytes would have, you know, a

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wall would have been just shrieking out the room and

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and, you know, thought the world was ending

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. You know, how can we possibly deal with

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all that? But today we we work on that

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. We deal with that. So the result of

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all of this external force that's going on is we

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really are looking at libraries, creating new infrastructures are

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buildings and infrastructure, but so is the technology and

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so as human expertise, what we know what we

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bring to the table in our services. Those are

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the three things that I kind of think of as

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as where libraries changing our infrastructures, our services and

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our skills. So it's one article and I think

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about so I go back to users here, maybe

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are producers. So let's think of them as producers

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creators. There's a great article that I've enjoyed a

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lot came out of Harvard Business Review now about six

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years ago, Antinori and a couple of other authors

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. And Nori is actually today, the Dean of

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the Harvard Business School. So I tend to pay

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attention to him, he knows a thing or two

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, and he focuses a lot on, well in

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shorthand, I'd say soft skills, people soft skills

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, but he thinks a lot about this notion of

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people and how they're motivated, particularly in the workplace

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. So I've kind of taken some of his writings

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and my thinking out of out of his context.

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in the workplace is just about human beings in community

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and what drives us. And he talks about these

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four drivers to acquire bond, comprehended defend. But

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there's one item he doesn't talk about is create that

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really. What motivates us when you think about it

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, we create all day long. From the moment

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we get up to the moment we go to bed

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, we're standing in a better sitting in a building

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. I'm standing in a building that we built that

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we human beings created. People created these chairs and

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tables and the cameras and the lights and everything else

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that we have. So we were very much kind

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of mission driven around producing and creating things. Although

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these other drivers are important, maybe I'll discover them

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real quick, but we want to, you know

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, so you think of your library users walking in

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your door. These are things that motivate them as

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well. You know, they want to acquire,

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they want to acquire knowledge. They want to acquire

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simple things like a roof over their head, clothing

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, food, those things that make them feel safe

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and secure. And if you read this article,

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most of these drivers are about just that we all

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want to be safe and secure. And the article

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actually talks about how difficult change is because of these

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very basic human drivers. We don't as human beings

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we don't want to change. We have a very

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difficult time with that bonding is bonding with, with

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people bonding with with the folks that we work with

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that we live next to. Makes it very difficult

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to change organizations because we more than anything. We

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we start to bond with the people that were sitting

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next to and working with and we don't and we

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don't want to change that. We also want to

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comprehend, we want to really understand our universe around

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us and what's happening there. Uh when when there's

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times of great change of course that that understanding our

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comprehension is challenged and we have to change that to

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so that that becomes another item a resistor where we

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really don't want to we don't want to change,

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we don't want to change what we know but we

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must and to defend again the sense of safety and

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security. I mean defend he Nori a writes and

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talks a lot about kind of that that military aspect

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of that country defends itself. But we all we

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defend our neighborhoods, we defend our homes, we

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defend our Children. It's again wanting that sense of

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safety and security which really kind of equates to not

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changing but because we create things and there's this tension

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between his human drivers and this active creation and production

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because as we create and produce things change and we

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go through that whole cycle of change. So kind

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of back to this thing of knowledge production. You

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know, what is this? So David Lange's who's

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a library information science professor at Syracuse. And I

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thought I was the first one to start thinking about

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some of these things. But David. David was

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a very early thing or two about this. A

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few quotes from him and he has a book out

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that's very good. But he talks about how knowledge

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is created through conversation that libraries are in the knowledge

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business. Therefore libraries are in the conversation business.

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New librarians approach their work as facilitators of conversation.

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And I think today in the world of the web

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this is an important item to remember that that we've

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spent 100 200 years kind of branding ourselves as the

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field that does what we bring people books and journals

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and a few other tangible items. And as it's

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gone electronic. Yes there are e journals and e

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books but there are so many other forms of information

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, you know for the first time in really in

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human history and I'm sure you've heard this before.

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But the carrier of the information is really separated from

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the informational content itself and we can create all sorts

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of carriers in digital form today. And it's very

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uh there's a lot of sociology out there that talks

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about being in a post literate society and what that

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really means is a non textual society. Now,

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I kinda thank God for wikis and blogs because it

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continues text. There's an awful lot of text out

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there. But there's but we know that there's an

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awful lot of audio, video, moving image,

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still image as well, animation, things that are

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that are created not just captured from around us.

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So knowledge is taking all of these forms, at

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least tangible knowledge is. So he's challenging us to

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really think about what what the role of libraries are

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if we if we remove ourselves for a minute of

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just thinking of the book and the journal because in

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a way that is that that book and journal is

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a is a kind of a stamp of the information

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object in time over a couple 100 years. None

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of us live that long. So we just kind

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of assume these things have been around forever. But

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those of you have kind of done your history of

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publishing. One of one class will remember uh Gutenberg

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bibles and the like and how the production of information

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has really changed over time. So we're in the

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middle of that kind of period right now in the

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last 10 years were really changing how knowledge and information

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is crafted and produced and preserved and shared next.

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And you can notice these are a little bit old

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um in that six years ago this is a school

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library and joan fry Williams and and ran across this

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blog and I I'm beginning to use this a lot

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now in some of my thinking because I just love

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some of the things that she said. So I

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got a couple slides, I'm going to read to

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you. So I apologize for that. But I

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do that because they're they're the quotes. I just

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really love So when I think about a lot about

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knowledge production, the creation of content and this is

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where libraries need to be going because everybody is a

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producer today. Everybody's using facebook and twitter and Youtube

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and flicker and all of these social media sites and

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what are they doing? They're putting stuff on there

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that they've that they've produced. So this is what

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what drives us. But here we go six years

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ago, joan Williams talks about how libraries are no

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longer grocery stores where students can go and pick up

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ingredients but that there need to be kitchens where they

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have the resources necessary to create a finished product.

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And that's very important for the rest of my talk

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. This where they have the resources necessary to create

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a finished product and that we need to stop being

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just the grocery store candy store. She says I

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love candy story so and become the kitchen. So

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interesting concept. And further the these are quotes from

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Williams that our business is about relationships. And that's

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the other thing I I harp on a lot.

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Um We are, you know, are we about

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books and journals? Yeah. You bet we are

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we're about information and content and and we are about

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collections. And if you look at some of the

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things that we're doing at the Virginia Tech Libraries,

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um the collection is still one of those, one

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of those strong items. We actually have a strategic

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plan. We call it kind of four the four

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legs of the table. These four items and that

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all four need to be strong for the table to

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be strong and flat and even and usable and one

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of those legs is access to collections. So we

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realized that access to information actually having collections is still

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incredibly important. But as Williams talks about our business

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is about relationships, it's about catalyzing connections, it's

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not about information containers that library users think of themselves

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as members, not as users or customers. And

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I really kind of like that because we what do

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we all do? We serve a community. I

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serve a university community and beyond. I serve,

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I serve the town, I serve the region as

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a public library. We have all sorts of people

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walk in or not just members of the university,

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but they are members of of some kind of community

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. And so are we and we serve that community

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. So it really is this this sense, the

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real work is about relationships and not transactions and I

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think that's incredibly important as we go through all of

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this change, and this is another item that I'm

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constantly harping on with my folks as we, as

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we make changes, is that when we come up

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with new services, we have to generate the relationships

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as we come up with a new service, we

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might be dealing with people that we've not dealt with

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before, and we need to initiate that relationship,

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get to know each other, find out more what

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it is that they want and need from us and

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go from there, and sometimes they don't really realize

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the things that we can we can do for them

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. So there's that leadership aspect of it where it's

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not just us responding to express need, but us

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kind of anticipating what people might be doing, and

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then kind of linking up with that and showing them

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how we can help support that. And next is

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this notion of trust. And when you talk about

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relationships, you talk about trust and this is something

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that I've actually published on a fair bit. I've

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done a lot of work around digital preservation between institutions

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, even between countries. And no one's going to

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preserve stuff forever more if you don't trust the other

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organizations that are involved in your in your network.

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So trust be in that realm becomes very important.

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Trust between users producers and libraries who provide services and

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spaces is equally as important. So I like this

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quote to from from joan where she talks about we

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should emphasize hospitality comfort, convenience and create work environments

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that invite exploration and creativity, both virtually and physically

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the underlying is my emphasis. We want our users

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members, students and teachers to trust us enough to

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allow us to participate. So when you stop and

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you think about knowledge creation, knowledge production and you

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all might be thinking about this already. Well if

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they're using facebook and twitter and Youtube, one of

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my favorites flicker for photos, et cetera, what

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do they need a library for? So when we

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talk about all of this information use and information production

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, it is possible for us to fall out of

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the loop. How are we not going to fall

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out of the loop by, you know, we

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hope we can generate enough trust between us to allow

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us to participate in their work and and add value

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to what it is they're doing and how we're going

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to do that as part of what I'm going to

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talk about in just a couple of slides so that

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trust and relationships within our community is incredibly important.

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So in community trust, relationships, members, community

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members producers. That's that's kind of why I'm asking

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to think about those words today and that they're different

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, that's different from library user. Just a slight

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perspective shift. So this was a little model,

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like we came up with this was in my PhD

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cohort and as we created this thing, you had

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to kind of be there because I actually didn't say

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anything. I just watched the other three kind of

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build this thing and they'd ask me. So is

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it like this in university libraries? I just not

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. Yeah. And they wrote this. So this

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looks a lot and trees could attest to this and

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some of the staff I have here could have tested

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, I create models like this all the time,

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but I actually didn't create this one. So it's

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really kind of proud of that because I watched a

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public librarian and a state librarian and a small college

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librarian kind of create this model about what this is

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, what they're all talking just buzzing away. This

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is what libraries do today. This is we help

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people create knowledge for themselves. It might always not

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be new knowledge to the world, but it's new

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to them and they're going about the act of how

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they create knowledge. And again, I I I'm

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sure I had a few words towards the end of

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this exercise, but I really liked this where we

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talked about, you know, what do we do

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? And kind of the boxes around those circles are

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the things that the libraries do. So, you

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know, we to create knowledge, we provide spaces

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are are learning spaces or commons, areas are becoming

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incredibly important. We provide all sorts of technology and

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tools. We help people learn skills to do these

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things and we engage with them against that relationship thing

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. People come in, we can teach them formally

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, we can kind of do some just in time

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learning and training on the floor of the library.

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We help people create then access, what do libraries

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do we create the physical and virtual infrastructure to provide

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information today. And this is where the world of

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digital repositories has really become front and center where we

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we collect things from our, you know, our

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community members and we preserve them and we help provide

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access to them. Some of the larger municipal public

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libraries are doing this kind of work where they operate

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repositories and you know, they collect writings, poetry

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, photography, all sorts of things from their community

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members and put it out there of course, in

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the university setting, we do this a lot with

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in regards to the scholarship that our faculty and students

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create course papers, articles, reports, audio,

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video work datasets etcetera so you kind of use in

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meeting. So this is where we help build multiple

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literacy ease and skill building. You know, not

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only today do we focus on you know the classic

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sense of information literacy being able to find information,

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understanding how to how to discern the quality of information

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. But we also help people a lot with visual

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literacy, multi media literacy, even data literacy things

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of this nature. And I've been working on issues

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of multimedia individual literacy for a while and I was

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very happy to see in the A. C.

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R. L. Information literacy guidelines that are kind

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of under review right now that they talk about visual

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multimedia and data literacy as being part of the literacy

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is that we teach. And when you think about

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how do we, especially today in 2014 with the

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World Wide Web, how do we convey knowledge?

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Well, years ago we'd say we'd write a book

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or an article and it was, you know,

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black text on a white piece of paper and we

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still have that. And it's kind of black text

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on a white screen a lot of the times.

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But increasingly it's audio visual, it's still image,

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it's moving image, it's it's truly multi media animation

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, that's added, et cetera. So this is

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how knowledge is conveyed today and people in our community

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are learning more about how to do this. Students

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are expected to learn more how to do this.

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So we move on. So we also we market

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, we evaluate, we deal with the community individual

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library etcetera. So so this this whole sense that

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this is what I live, this is this is

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kind of our image, a visual image of what

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a library is transforming communities into learning communities that thrive

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. And that whole line is about value added,

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you have communities and they're gonna do what they're gonna

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do. But with libraries involved in this kind of

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knowledge creation cycle, we add value, we turn

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communities into true learning communities, we optimize them for

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learning and that they're not just doing, but they're

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thriving at what they do. It's also a concept

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that David Lange's talks about in some of his writings

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and book so quick commercial on on how some of

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this actually manifests itself in a particular library. So

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this is this is from my library at Virginia Tech

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University Libraries and we recently did a oh, kind

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of a I think of it as a pr exercise

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, I suppose. And we we definitely want people

616
00:30:56.529 --> 00:31:00.099 A:middle L:90%
in your community to to see how we're evolving and

617
00:31:00.099 --> 00:31:06.009 A:middle L:90%
growing and becoming a different library that we feel is

618
00:31:06.019 --> 00:31:08.250 A:middle L:90%
more more of the moment, more value, add

619
00:31:08.250 --> 00:31:12.470 A:middle L:90%
more more immediate for our community members. So we

620
00:31:12.470 --> 00:31:17.980 A:middle L:90%
developed these six aspirational qualities. We started in the

621
00:31:17.980 --> 00:31:19.619 A:middle L:90%
library and we asked people in the library and outside

622
00:31:19.619 --> 00:31:22.089 A:middle L:90%
the library, and what do you think of when

623
00:31:22.089 --> 00:31:22.430 A:middle L:90%
you think of the library? Well, we came

624
00:31:22.430 --> 00:31:26.259 A:middle L:90%
up with over 100 terms and even that we had

625
00:31:26.259 --> 00:31:27.170 A:middle L:90%
to kind of get it down to there. So

626
00:31:27.170 --> 00:31:30.359 A:middle L:90%
we kind of went through one exercise after another after

627
00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:32.660 A:middle L:90%
another, and we finally got it down to six

628
00:31:32.660 --> 00:31:33.920 A:middle L:90%
. So I thought I'd talk about these six a

629
00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:36.130 A:middle L:90%
little bit. So this is kind of what our

630
00:31:36.130 --> 00:31:41.349 A:middle L:90%
library as an academic library is trying to strive for

631
00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:44.609 A:middle L:90%
. So the first aspirational quality is about openness that

632
00:31:44.609 --> 00:31:48.269 A:middle L:90%
we designed pathways to information access ideas and discovery.

633
00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:49.240 A:middle L:90%
So when you see openness, a lot of us

634
00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:55.039 A:middle L:90%
think about open access uh publishing materials and making making

635
00:31:55.039 --> 00:31:57.250 A:middle L:90%
information free to readers, that's a component of this

636
00:31:57.250 --> 00:32:00.059 A:middle L:90%
. But it doesn't say open access, it's about

637
00:32:00.069 --> 00:32:02.619 A:middle L:90%
openness and it's that sense of knowledge of freedom that

638
00:32:02.619 --> 00:32:06.680 A:middle L:90%
we want people to get to information that we're that's

639
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:07.579 A:middle L:90%
what we're all here for. We're very mission driven

640
00:32:07.589 --> 00:32:10.539 A:middle L:90%
and it's key to learning to get to information.

641
00:32:10.549 --> 00:32:13.579 A:middle L:90%
And when we put a lot of costs up in

642
00:32:13.579 --> 00:32:15.829 A:middle L:90%
front of that, that becomes a barrier. So

643
00:32:15.829 --> 00:32:17.359 A:middle L:90%
that's one aspect to it. But we we value

644
00:32:17.369 --> 00:32:22.769 A:middle L:90%
and we aspire to reach as much openness as possible

645
00:32:22.740 --> 00:32:25.920 A:middle L:90%
. Next is curation and curation really is a word

646
00:32:25.930 --> 00:32:30.069 A:middle L:90%
that refers to kind of the life cycle of information

647
00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:31.460 A:middle L:90%
, everything from, from conceiving of what we're going

648
00:32:31.460 --> 00:32:34.910 A:middle L:90%
to create, to creating it to preserving it,

649
00:32:34.910 --> 00:32:37.279 A:middle L:90%
providing access, reusing it. So we talk about

650
00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:39.650 A:middle L:90%
how we partner with people to produce, disseminate,

651
00:32:39.650 --> 00:32:43.940 A:middle L:90%
preserve, use information and data and we throw data

652
00:32:43.940 --> 00:32:45.759 A:middle L:90%
in there a lot these days for us because these

653
00:32:45.769 --> 00:32:47.289 A:middle L:90%
it's not, you know, I think we all

654
00:32:47.289 --> 00:32:50.789 A:middle L:90%
grew up in school, we learned about primary resources

655
00:32:50.789 --> 00:32:52.559 A:middle L:90%
and secondary resources. Right? So we're beginning to

656
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:55.789 A:middle L:90%
work an awful lot with primary resources that are in

657
00:32:55.789 --> 00:32:58.730 A:middle L:90%
digital form. Why? Because they're all a bunch

658
00:32:58.730 --> 00:33:00.750 A:middle L:90%
of ones and zeros and they're all in a computer

659
00:33:00.750 --> 00:33:02.890 A:middle L:90%
file and all these computer files can be managed whether

660
00:33:02.900 --> 00:33:06.910 A:middle L:90%
it's packages, an e book or it's it's a

661
00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:08.819 A:middle L:90%
for us that could be a I worked with some

662
00:33:08.819 --> 00:33:12.640 A:middle L:90%
crazy faculty. It could be um it could be

663
00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:16.339 A:middle L:90%
a huge file of dye in water, watching crabs

664
00:33:16.339 --> 00:33:20.109 A:middle L:90%
walk through the water. And I've actually have collected

665
00:33:20.109 --> 00:33:22.440 A:middle L:90%
terabytes of that kind of stuff before because researchers are

666
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:25.220 A:middle L:90%
trying to figure out how crabs mechanically move through water

667
00:33:25.220 --> 00:33:28.900 A:middle L:90%
so we can mimic that and create better machines that

668
00:33:28.900 --> 00:33:30.160 A:middle L:90%
move in the water that are that are manually driven

669
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:34.289 A:middle L:90%
by by us by humans. So that's data.

670
00:33:34.299 --> 00:33:36.650 A:middle L:90%
That's one type of data. So it's an interesting

671
00:33:36.650 --> 00:33:38.019 A:middle L:90%
work out there. The third one's creation, we

672
00:33:38.019 --> 00:33:40.869 A:middle L:90%
enable people to design, make and express their ideas

673
00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:43.890 A:middle L:90%
again, back to that and that's actually kind of

674
00:33:43.890 --> 00:33:46.019 A:middle L:90%
part of curation. And we think about that point

675
00:33:46.019 --> 00:33:49.980 A:middle L:90%
of creation. We help people want to create something

676
00:33:49.990 --> 00:33:52.420 A:middle L:90%
in my environment. When we have students walk in

677
00:33:52.420 --> 00:33:53.799 A:middle L:90%
the door, increasingly they say, you know,

678
00:33:53.799 --> 00:33:57.599 A:middle L:90%
I have an assignment for class, I have to

679
00:33:57.609 --> 00:34:00.359 A:middle L:90%
create a presentation. We hear that all the time

680
00:34:00.369 --> 00:34:01.309 A:middle L:90%
. So they're asking for reading materials, I need

681
00:34:01.309 --> 00:34:04.309 A:middle L:90%
a book, I need a couple articles, but

682
00:34:04.309 --> 00:34:06.059 A:middle L:90%
immediately they go to, well I have to give

683
00:34:06.059 --> 00:34:07.119 A:middle L:90%
a power point presentation. I got to create this

684
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:10.280 A:middle L:90%
video with it as well. And you know,

685
00:34:10.289 --> 00:34:13.940 A:middle L:90%
I'm actually doing this. It's a history class and

686
00:34:13.940 --> 00:34:15.019 A:middle L:90%
I and I need some help with uh you know

687
00:34:15.019 --> 00:34:17.670 A:middle L:90%
, maps because I'm kind of doing something on Colonial

688
00:34:17.670 --> 00:34:21.780 A:middle L:90%
Williamsburg and I need some maps for that. So

689
00:34:21.780 --> 00:34:23.380 A:middle L:90%
that's, you know, that's kind of geographic information

690
00:34:23.380 --> 00:34:27.599 A:middle L:90%
systems material today. So we're, you know,

691
00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:30.960 A:middle L:90%
we're kind of designing our library more around what happens

692
00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:31.730 A:middle L:90%
when that student walks in the door and they need

693
00:34:31.730 --> 00:34:35.599 A:middle L:90%
to create something. They need the tools to do

694
00:34:35.610 --> 00:34:37.860 A:middle L:90%
all those things I just mentioned. And that's not

695
00:34:37.860 --> 00:34:39.619 A:middle L:90%
the odd case anymore. That's probably the majority of

696
00:34:39.619 --> 00:34:42.369 A:middle L:90%
the cases. What a librarian here is that the

697
00:34:42.369 --> 00:34:44.579 A:middle L:90%
reference desk at our reference desk. And we are

698
00:34:44.579 --> 00:34:46.250 A:middle L:90%
not extreme at all. I think university libraries in

699
00:34:46.250 --> 00:34:49.400 A:middle L:90%
particular hearing this. But I also know that public

700
00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:51.820 A:middle L:90%
libraries are hearing this very kind of thing from their

701
00:34:51.829 --> 00:34:57.190 A:middle L:90%
, from their community members. So the other three

702
00:34:57.190 --> 00:35:00.699 A:middle L:90%
are community. We bring people ideas and resources together

703
00:35:00.699 --> 00:35:01.530 A:middle L:90%
. And I think it's the public's who understand this

704
00:35:01.530 --> 00:35:06.110 A:middle L:90%
a lot better than the academics that we serve as

705
00:35:06.110 --> 00:35:07.059 A:middle L:90%
that community center. We are, you know,

706
00:35:07.059 --> 00:35:12.260 A:middle L:90%
libraries are all about being social learning itself is a

707
00:35:12.260 --> 00:35:14.449 A:middle L:90%
social process. That's another quote of mine. I

708
00:35:14.449 --> 00:35:15.179 A:middle L:90%
have said for years, I'm sure other people have

709
00:35:15.179 --> 00:35:19.469 A:middle L:90%
said it many times long before there was social media

710
00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:22.429 A:middle L:90%
. But this is this is perhaps the strongest thing

711
00:35:22.429 --> 00:35:24.829 A:middle L:90%
that libraries do is bringing people together. But it's

712
00:35:24.829 --> 00:35:28.440 A:middle L:90%
not just people, people are coming together with ideas

713
00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:30.949 A:middle L:90%
with concepts, things they want to create, things

714
00:35:30.949 --> 00:35:36.289 A:middle L:90%
they want to share. Um a very simple expression

715
00:35:36.289 --> 00:35:37.460 A:middle L:90%
of this can be, you know, grandparents walking

716
00:35:37.460 --> 00:35:39.039 A:middle L:90%
into a library saying, you know, I gosh

717
00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:40.929 A:middle L:90%
, I just wish I could learn more about facebook

718
00:35:40.929 --> 00:35:43.090 A:middle L:90%
, I just have such a hard time. I

719
00:35:43.090 --> 00:35:45.139 A:middle L:90%
got my grandkids who put stuff up there and I

720
00:35:45.139 --> 00:35:46.119 A:middle L:90%
wish I could see their photos and I wish I

721
00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:47.889 A:middle L:90%
could share something that what I'm doing. I just

722
00:35:47.889 --> 00:35:51.230 A:middle L:90%
don't, I don't know how to do that.

723
00:35:51.239 --> 00:35:52.389 A:middle L:90%
You know, we hear that kind of thing all

724
00:35:52.389 --> 00:35:54.380 A:middle L:90%
the time. So it could be as simple as

725
00:35:54.380 --> 00:35:55.769 A:middle L:90%
that, you know, how do we, how

726
00:35:55.769 --> 00:35:59.610 A:middle L:90%
do we get our community members more involved and how

727
00:35:59.610 --> 00:36:02.269 A:middle L:90%
we create and share today? So catalyst. We

728
00:36:02.269 --> 00:36:06.429 A:middle L:90%
ignite people's curiosity and sense of possibility and this might

729
00:36:06.429 --> 00:36:07.460 A:middle L:90%
be the one that's kind of way out there a

730
00:36:07.460 --> 00:36:10.480 A:middle L:90%
little, a little bit, I think for us

731
00:36:10.489 --> 00:36:15.019 A:middle L:90%
because it's not about service, it's about us being

732
00:36:15.019 --> 00:36:19.050 A:middle L:90%
a leadership organization, that we, we need to

733
00:36:19.050 --> 00:36:21.409 A:middle L:90%
be proud of. The fact yet humble but proud

734
00:36:21.409 --> 00:36:23.739 A:middle L:90%
of the fact that we, as information professionals know

735
00:36:23.750 --> 00:36:28.389 A:middle L:90%
more than most people around us about how to produce

736
00:36:28.389 --> 00:36:30.019 A:middle L:90%
, how to publish, how to share and utilize

737
00:36:30.019 --> 00:36:34.650 A:middle L:90%
and find information and that we can be that leadership

738
00:36:34.659 --> 00:36:37.150 A:middle L:90%
organization, We can show others in our community how

739
00:36:37.150 --> 00:36:38.519 A:middle L:90%
to do these things effectively after we listen to them

740
00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:40.739 A:middle L:90%
and understand what it is they're trying to do.

741
00:36:40.750 --> 00:36:43.639 A:middle L:90%
So we want to be that catalyst. We want

742
00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:45.739 A:middle L:90%
to understand their their curiosity, what it is they're

743
00:36:45.739 --> 00:36:49.329 A:middle L:90%
trying to do and show them new ways to do

744
00:36:49.329 --> 00:36:52.039 A:middle L:90%
it. And then of course knowledge, we stimulate

745
00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:55.170 A:middle L:90%
creative, cultural, social and intellectual endeavors uh kind

746
00:36:55.170 --> 00:36:59.360 A:middle L:90%
of hard to do aspirational qualities without talking about knowledge

747
00:36:59.369 --> 00:37:00.849 A:middle L:90%
somewhere. And we think about knowledge is being both

748
00:37:01.230 --> 00:37:05.809 A:middle L:90%
both tangible um which is kind of funny today because

749
00:37:05.809 --> 00:37:07.079 A:middle L:90%
tangible could be a print book, but tangible could

750
00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:09.429 A:middle L:90%
be an e book, right? Or an article

751
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:12.929 A:middle L:90%
. But it's also tacit which is really about what

752
00:37:12.929 --> 00:37:14.909 A:middle L:90%
people know in their head, right? Goes back

753
00:37:14.909 --> 00:37:17.500 A:middle L:90%
to that length slide about conversations and what our job

754
00:37:17.510 --> 00:37:21.510 A:middle L:90%
really is is about fostering those conversations and capturing those

755
00:37:21.510 --> 00:37:24.449 A:middle L:90%
conversations. So what is a captured conversation writing,

756
00:37:24.659 --> 00:37:29.139 A:middle L:90%
right? Could be a book. So this is

757
00:37:29.139 --> 00:37:31.599 A:middle L:90%
what we really do today. So where is all

758
00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:34.539 A:middle L:90%
this leading for libraries? So, I think,

759
00:37:35.329 --> 00:37:37.760 A:middle L:90%
you know, I I certainly grew up in in

760
00:37:37.769 --> 00:37:38.989 A:middle L:90%
in the academic libraries where we talked an awful lot

761
00:37:38.989 --> 00:37:42.000 A:middle L:90%
over the years about, you know, there's there's

762
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:44.019 A:middle L:90%
the there's the front of the shop, in the

763
00:37:44.019 --> 00:37:45.860 A:middle L:90%
back of the shop and that it's not one of

764
00:37:45.860 --> 00:37:47.059 A:middle L:90%
my favorite phrases, I don't like it, you

765
00:37:47.059 --> 00:37:51.219 A:middle L:90%
know, um, public versus technical is another one

766
00:37:51.219 --> 00:37:52.900 A:middle L:90%
to hear her a lot about not one of my

767
00:37:52.900 --> 00:37:57.880 A:middle L:90%
favorite phrases, I really kind of promote this notion

768
00:37:57.880 --> 00:37:59.519 A:middle L:90%
of, you know, this is where we're kind

769
00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:01.340 A:middle L:90%
of moving toward their infrastructure, were content or services

770
00:38:02.019 --> 00:38:05.000 A:middle L:90%
. So the infrastructure is if you look at the

771
00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:07.940 A:middle L:90%
gears, its its facilities and technologies and what I

772
00:38:07.940 --> 00:38:10.300 A:middle L:90%
said before in human expertise, part of the infrastructure

773
00:38:10.300 --> 00:38:15.130 A:middle L:90%
of the library today is what we know our skills

774
00:38:15.139 --> 00:38:17.920 A:middle L:90%
, so developing our skills, coming to conferences,

775
00:38:17.929 --> 00:38:23.059 A:middle L:90%
conferring literally with our Our cohorts are colleagues learning from

776
00:38:23.059 --> 00:38:27.090 A:middle L:90%
one another and learning new things to do with content

777
00:38:27.090 --> 00:38:30.739 A:middle L:90%
and information is our value add. If we stop

778
00:38:30.750 --> 00:38:32.300 A:middle L:90%
and do the same thing over and over and over

779
00:38:32.300 --> 00:38:36.710 A:middle L:90%
again, those things get commoditized, other people start

780
00:38:36.710 --> 00:38:39.420 A:middle L:90%
doing it and are worth starts to crumble. So

781
00:38:39.420 --> 00:38:43.449 A:middle L:90%
are our value is in learning how to do new

782
00:38:43.449 --> 00:38:49.599 A:middle L:90%
things with content. Information, content of course content

783
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:51.460 A:middle L:90%
is king and that's why we exist, right?

784
00:38:51.469 --> 00:38:53.289 A:middle L:90%
We collect And we're still going to collect. And

785
00:38:53.289 --> 00:38:55.280 A:middle L:90%
if we don't collect, if we help people get

786
00:38:55.280 --> 00:38:58.449 A:middle L:90%
to information that we don't own, it's still about

787
00:38:58.449 --> 00:39:00.670 A:middle L:90%
that access. We probably have talked about that for

788
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:02.500 A:middle L:90%
, you know, a good 2025 years maybe even

789
00:39:02.500 --> 00:39:06.500 A:middle L:90%
longer about access to the things that we don't own

790
00:39:06.510 --> 00:39:07.440 A:middle L:90%
. But we know that today we're continuing to hone

791
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:10.869 A:middle L:90%
our services are technologies, our M O. U

792
00:39:10.869 --> 00:39:14.219 A:middle L:90%
s between libraries et cetera. About how do we

793
00:39:14.219 --> 00:39:15.829 A:middle L:90%
get people the information they need as quickly as possible

794
00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:19.099 A:middle L:90%
, even if we don't physically have it or own

795
00:39:19.099 --> 00:39:22.239 A:middle L:90%
it. So that's still critical to what we do

796
00:39:23.019 --> 00:39:25.449 A:middle L:90%
and services. So the services are changing too in

797
00:39:25.449 --> 00:39:27.889 A:middle L:90%
terms of, you know, we we've always help

798
00:39:27.889 --> 00:39:30.280 A:middle L:90%
people find and use information but we also focus on

799
00:39:30.289 --> 00:39:34.530 A:middle L:90%
the production of information a lot more today. So

800
00:39:34.530 --> 00:39:35.889 A:middle L:90%
you can see from looking at this, you know

801
00:39:35.889 --> 00:39:37.809 A:middle L:90%
, there's skills that we all need to be developing

802
00:39:37.809 --> 00:39:39.670 A:middle L:90%
within our libraries. Now, no one of us

803
00:39:39.670 --> 00:39:43.369 A:middle L:90%
can do all of these things and and you know

804
00:39:43.369 --> 00:39:46.019 A:middle L:90%
, I'm certainly not asking for that. So some

805
00:39:46.019 --> 00:39:47.780 A:middle L:90%
of our larger libraries we have, you know,

806
00:39:47.780 --> 00:39:51.400 A:middle L:90%
lots of departments doing lots of different things were really

807
00:39:51.409 --> 00:39:52.829 A:middle L:90%
very diverse in our in our services. And we

808
00:39:52.829 --> 00:39:55.159 A:middle L:90%
need to keep learning about how to do some of

809
00:39:55.159 --> 00:40:00.000 A:middle L:90%
these new things uh challenging, challenging in a time

810
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:01.119 A:middle L:90%
of go back early. The economics, right.

811
00:40:01.130 --> 00:40:04.780 A:middle L:90%
Economics are really kind of difficult these days. So

812
00:40:04.780 --> 00:40:06.639 A:middle L:90%
this is where we we have to rise to the

813
00:40:06.639 --> 00:40:07.530 A:middle L:90%
challenge and be creative and figure out how to do

814
00:40:07.530 --> 00:40:12.239 A:middle L:90%
some of these things regardless of the economic situation.

815
00:40:13.809 --> 00:40:15.489 A:middle L:90%
Uh huh. I try not to think about economics

816
00:40:15.489 --> 00:40:17.829 A:middle L:90%
. A lot of it is it's kind of that

817
00:40:19.409 --> 00:40:22.659 A:middle L:90%
that dale Carnegie power of positive thinking thing. You

818
00:40:22.659 --> 00:40:24.289 A:middle L:90%
know, if you dwell on on the negative then

819
00:40:24.289 --> 00:40:25.909 A:middle L:90%
you're not gonna do anything, you know? Well

820
00:40:25.909 --> 00:40:30.260 A:middle L:90%
we don't have any money to do that. I

821
00:40:30.269 --> 00:40:34.829 A:middle L:90%
can't think of a bigger, harder conversation stopper than

822
00:40:34.829 --> 00:40:37.889 A:middle L:90%
that phrase here all the time. You know?

823
00:40:37.900 --> 00:40:38.940 A:middle L:90%
I tried to say, well I just ignore money

824
00:40:38.940 --> 00:40:42.119 A:middle L:90%
, I don't think about it. What do we

825
00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:44.929 A:middle L:90%
want to do and make the money issue? The

826
00:40:44.929 --> 00:40:46.679 A:middle L:90%
very last thing that you think about because it's real

827
00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:49.239 A:middle L:90%
, you have to think about it but you don't

828
00:40:49.239 --> 00:40:51.110 A:middle L:90%
have to think about it first. You can think

829
00:40:51.110 --> 00:40:55.900 A:middle L:90%
about it last. So libraries in the evolving paradigm

830
00:40:55.900 --> 00:40:58.369 A:middle L:90%
. So you can see I'm kind of you know

831
00:40:58.380 --> 00:41:00.340 A:middle L:90%
, chunking this down talk about libraries a little bit

832
00:41:00.340 --> 00:41:01.179 A:middle L:90%
. So what are what are librarians and what our

833
00:41:01.179 --> 00:41:06.159 A:middle L:90%
library staff in this in this realm? Well,

834
00:41:06.170 --> 00:41:07.059 A:middle L:90%
if you want to really know about staff, you're

835
00:41:07.059 --> 00:41:08.730 A:middle L:90%
gonna have to come to my next talk after lunch

836
00:41:08.730 --> 00:41:12.000 A:middle L:90%
because that's where I'm going to really focus on on

837
00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:14.110 A:middle L:90%
staff there, but I'll touch on a little bit

838
00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:17.000 A:middle L:90%
now. So who are we in this realm now

839
00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:20.550 A:middle L:90%
that I've kind of got you all buzzing and confused

840
00:41:20.550 --> 00:41:21.900 A:middle L:90%
and pulled apart? Like, gosh, what's the

841
00:41:21.900 --> 00:41:23.860 A:middle L:90%
library really doing today? Well, a lot of

842
00:41:23.860 --> 00:41:27.690 A:middle L:90%
this should be familiar, but again, it's about

843
00:41:27.699 --> 00:41:30.130 A:middle L:90%
it is about old familiar roles being done in very

844
00:41:30.130 --> 00:41:32.300 A:middle L:90%
new ways. You know, I think that that's

845
00:41:32.300 --> 00:41:34.880 A:middle L:90%
that that sense of, you know, the safety

846
00:41:34.880 --> 00:41:36.369 A:middle L:90%
and security for me when I look at it,

847
00:41:36.369 --> 00:41:37.349 A:middle L:90%
it's like, well, we've always been doing these

848
00:41:37.349 --> 00:41:39.880 A:middle L:90%
things. It is the World Wide Web that has

849
00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:44.750 A:middle L:90%
just completely changed our world and changed information creation and

850
00:41:44.750 --> 00:41:46.170 A:middle L:90%
use and and we know that. But when you

851
00:41:46.170 --> 00:41:49.980 A:middle L:90%
look at this really closely, you can see that

852
00:41:49.989 --> 00:41:54.730 A:middle L:90%
it is really reshaped what we're doing. So teachers

853
00:41:54.730 --> 00:41:58.289 A:middle L:90%
instructional partners, you know that that's one of one

854
00:41:58.289 --> 00:42:00.349 A:middle L:90%
of the roles we play. We do this in

855
00:42:00.349 --> 00:42:02.039 A:middle L:90%
learning spaces, we do this in physical and virtual

856
00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:06.289 A:middle L:90%
spaces. I I emphasize virtual because we know how

857
00:42:06.289 --> 00:42:07.210 A:middle L:90%
we do this in physical spaces, How we teach

858
00:42:07.210 --> 00:42:09.909 A:middle L:90%
people things in libraries. For instance. I mean

859
00:42:09.909 --> 00:42:13.219 A:middle L:90%
we we teach people how to find and use information

860
00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:15.550 A:middle L:90%
, but we've always taught people how to use technology

861
00:42:15.550 --> 00:42:16.829 A:middle L:90%
. We've taught them how to use manual typewriters and

862
00:42:16.829 --> 00:42:20.820 A:middle L:90%
electronic typewriters. We've taught people how to use photocopiers

863
00:42:20.820 --> 00:42:22.760 A:middle L:90%
and pcs scanners and the like. So we were

864
00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:27.360 A:middle L:90%
always teaching technology as well as teaching about how to

865
00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:32.949 A:middle L:90%
find quality information. Mm We're also observers or anthropologists

866
00:42:32.949 --> 00:42:36.760 A:middle L:90%
. Now I have a lot of kind of social

867
00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:38.239 A:middle L:90%
history background in my degrees and spent a lot of

868
00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:44.010 A:middle L:90%
time uh taking anthropology courses and in sociology courses.

869
00:42:44.010 --> 00:42:45.400 A:middle L:90%
Really didn't like the sociology too much. Too many

870
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:49.829 A:middle L:90%
numbers for the historian in me. But it's that

871
00:42:49.829 --> 00:42:53.550 A:middle L:90%
sense of observational analysis really being kind of that there

872
00:42:53.550 --> 00:42:58.130 A:middle L:90%
there is a a book written by an anthropologist that

873
00:42:58.130 --> 00:43:00.059 A:middle L:90%
I read some years ago that helped me a lot

874
00:43:00.070 --> 00:43:04.320 A:middle L:90%
called participant observation. And that's kind of what we

875
00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:07.809 A:middle L:90%
do is librarians, we especially within the library and

876
00:43:07.809 --> 00:43:10.610 A:middle L:90%
in our online environments, we observe and watch what

877
00:43:10.610 --> 00:43:15.179 A:middle L:90%
people are doing. We watch how they're how they're

878
00:43:15.190 --> 00:43:16.679 A:middle L:90%
uh finding materials. What are they doing with the

879
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:20.480 A:middle L:90%
materials once they have them um you know in our

880
00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:22.840 A:middle L:90%
libraries once we set up commons areas where there's more

881
00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:25.610 A:middle L:90%
scanners and cameras and things of this nature we wanna

882
00:43:25.619 --> 00:43:28.440 A:middle L:90%
we wanna you know we don't want to spy on

883
00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:30.260 A:middle L:90%
them. We don't have to have personal information,

884
00:43:30.260 --> 00:43:32.179 A:middle L:90%
but we want to observe enough to really understand what

885
00:43:32.179 --> 00:43:35.940 A:middle L:90%
it is there doing with these things. We bring

886
00:43:35.940 --> 00:43:37.949 A:middle L:90%
that back to the library and that continues to help

887
00:43:37.949 --> 00:43:44.659 A:middle L:90%
us shape and evolve our services. Okay. We're

888
00:43:44.659 --> 00:43:46.599 A:middle L:90%
also systems builders and you can tell even from these

889
00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:50.559 A:middle L:90%
four here as well as content producers, these four

890
00:43:50.570 --> 00:43:52.809 A:middle L:90%
, they're kind of a little bit different types.

891
00:43:52.820 --> 00:43:53.469 A:middle L:90%
Uh and I think this is where some of the

892
00:43:53.469 --> 00:43:58.219 A:middle L:90%
communication between us and these roles as librarians and library

893
00:43:58.219 --> 00:44:00.099 A:middle L:90%
staff in these four areas. And there's more um

894
00:44:00.590 --> 00:44:02.909 A:middle L:90%
we break down in our communication because we see things

895
00:44:02.909 --> 00:44:05.670 A:middle L:90%
differently. But for me, you know, and

896
00:44:05.670 --> 00:44:07.369 A:middle L:90%
I've had some librarian, library directors in particular talked

897
00:44:07.369 --> 00:44:08.500 A:middle L:90%
about, you know, gosh, we're just so

898
00:44:08.500 --> 00:44:10.659 A:middle L:90%
schizophrenic these days, we just, you know,

899
00:44:10.659 --> 00:44:13.170 A:middle L:90%
we just do so many different things. And I

900
00:44:13.170 --> 00:44:15.619 A:middle L:90%
just said, no, we're not schizophrenic where divers

901
00:44:15.630 --> 00:44:19.650 A:middle L:90%
were diverse, but but what, what's what's the

902
00:44:19.650 --> 00:44:22.610 A:middle L:90%
thing that hangs it altogether? Content information, no

903
00:44:22.610 --> 00:44:25.079 A:middle L:90%
matter what it is, We're talking about doing something

904
00:44:25.079 --> 00:44:28.630 A:middle L:90%
with information and that's who we are. We are

905
00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:32.150 A:middle L:90%
information professionals. So system builders, that's the other

906
00:44:32.150 --> 00:44:36.179 A:middle L:90%
thing. And I've spent a lot of time here

907
00:44:36.190 --> 00:44:37.420 A:middle L:90%
, probably Emma systems builder, but we talk about

908
00:44:37.420 --> 00:44:39.360 A:middle L:90%
this and a lot of ways. We build digital

909
00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:45.119 A:middle L:90%
repositories, digital libraries. We build learning spaces virtual

910
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:49.079 A:middle L:90%
and physical in our buildings. People who deal with

911
00:44:49.079 --> 00:44:52.650 A:middle L:90%
licensing, purchasing, creating metadata, dealing with rights

912
00:44:52.650 --> 00:44:54.320 A:middle L:90%
. You're all kind of contribute to the building of

913
00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:59.139 A:middle L:90%
the system of that environment, of how information kind

914
00:44:59.139 --> 00:45:01.420 A:middle L:90%
of happens and gets, gets created and gets used

915
00:45:02.389 --> 00:45:06.269 A:middle L:90%
. Content producers. So content still very important.

916
00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:07.510 A:middle L:90%
And kind of the image is there for a reason

917
00:45:07.510 --> 00:45:10.110 A:middle L:90%
. So, again, it's not just creating information

918
00:45:10.110 --> 00:45:12.969 A:middle L:90%
today is not just sitting at the typewriter or the

919
00:45:12.969 --> 00:45:19.500 A:middle L:90%
pc. It's that increasingly it becomes a multimedia production

920
00:45:22.489 --> 00:45:24.769 A:middle L:90%
. So other kind of other roles in the involving

921
00:45:24.769 --> 00:45:28.269 A:middle L:90%
paradigm. These are a little bit loftier. But

922
00:45:28.269 --> 00:45:30.949 A:middle L:90%
we're organizational designers. This is kind of where I

923
00:45:30.949 --> 00:45:32.449 A:middle L:90%
spend my time in these two areas, Not more

924
00:45:32.449 --> 00:45:34.980 A:middle L:90%
than anything, but we, you know, we

925
00:45:34.980 --> 00:45:38.500 A:middle L:90%
have to design or organizations very intentionally for these this

926
00:45:38.500 --> 00:45:43.980 A:middle L:90%
new environment that that people are community members, are

927
00:45:43.989 --> 00:45:45.949 A:middle L:90%
information producers. What are they doing? We need

928
00:45:45.949 --> 00:45:50.380 A:middle L:90%
to design our organization that meets their needs and is

929
00:45:50.380 --> 00:45:53.869 A:middle L:90%
able to evolve as they evolve. And also the

930
00:45:53.869 --> 00:45:57.070 A:middle L:90%
sense of being kind of a collaborative network creator.

931
00:45:57.070 --> 00:46:00.010 A:middle L:90%
Because libraries today, it doesnt again, doesn't matter

932
00:46:00.010 --> 00:46:01.889 A:middle L:90%
your institutional setting. No single library can do all

933
00:46:01.889 --> 00:46:05.110 A:middle L:90%
it needs to do all by itself. I think

934
00:46:05.110 --> 00:46:07.159 A:middle L:90%
we all know that we have to cooperate, we

935
00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:09.199 A:middle L:90%
have to collaborate, we have to do things together

936
00:46:09.210 --> 00:46:12.139 A:middle L:90%
. Um I know that I think in the academic

937
00:46:12.139 --> 00:46:15.840 A:middle L:90%
libraries were finally really really getting that at a lot

938
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:19.460 A:middle L:90%
of different levels. We've done things very well like

939
00:46:19.469 --> 00:46:22.599 A:middle L:90%
resource sharing. Um I think it's very good in

940
00:46:22.610 --> 00:46:25.380 A:middle L:90%
Virginia. The viva program and resource sharing has been

941
00:46:25.380 --> 00:46:28.530 A:middle L:90%
just great. But we're, you know, we're

942
00:46:28.530 --> 00:46:29.969 A:middle L:90%
learning how to do more of these things, not

943
00:46:29.969 --> 00:46:31.780 A:middle L:90%
just within the state, but nationally takes a lot

944
00:46:31.780 --> 00:46:35.460 A:middle L:90%
of time and a lot of a lot of energy

945
00:46:35.460 --> 00:46:37.300 A:middle L:90%
and frankly some failure to to get that done.

946
00:46:37.980 --> 00:46:43.949 A:middle L:90%
But it's important aspect of what we do. Okay

947
00:46:43.949 --> 00:46:45.639 A:middle L:90%
, so here's another little definition of of libraries and

948
00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:49.800 A:middle L:90%
it's a place that supports the full knowledge construction process

949
00:46:50.980 --> 00:46:52.519 A:middle L:90%
. So it's again it's that idea of we're dealing

950
00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:55.099 A:middle L:90%
with our members are coming into the library or maybe

951
00:46:55.099 --> 00:46:59.409 A:middle L:90%
they're online, interacting with us on with our with

952
00:46:59.409 --> 00:47:00.570 A:middle L:90%
our libraries and library staff. And they're talking about

953
00:47:00.579 --> 00:47:02.829 A:middle L:90%
, they have a concept and idea. They need

954
00:47:02.829 --> 00:47:06.599 A:middle L:90%
to develop skills to create something they need access to

955
00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:07.980 A:middle L:90%
technologies, then they create something. There is a

956
00:47:07.980 --> 00:47:10.599 A:middle L:90%
product, you know, what happens with that product

957
00:47:10.679 --> 00:47:13.530 A:middle L:90%
? Well, that products very familiar to us.

958
00:47:13.530 --> 00:47:15.699 A:middle L:90%
It's some sort of information that some sort of a

959
00:47:15.699 --> 00:47:17.860 A:middle L:90%
file, probably digital that can be printed as well

960
00:47:17.860 --> 00:47:21.909 A:middle L:90%
, can't exist in a couple of different mediums and

961
00:47:21.909 --> 00:47:23.300 A:middle L:90%
that we might want to collect and help sustain that

962
00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:27.730 A:middle L:90%
. So as we go forward and we think more

963
00:47:27.730 --> 00:47:31.179 A:middle L:90%
about what libraries are doing, it's some of these

964
00:47:31.179 --> 00:47:32.900 A:middle L:90%
kinds of things we want to kind of, what

965
00:47:32.900 --> 00:47:35.219 A:middle L:90%
do we want to do? We want to help

966
00:47:35.219 --> 00:47:37.630 A:middle L:90%
people translate their ideas through the skills that they have

967
00:47:37.630 --> 00:47:42.159 A:middle L:90%
or will be having how to utilize that technology and

968
00:47:42.159 --> 00:47:45.610 A:middle L:90%
produce something. So we want to talk about content

969
00:47:45.610 --> 00:47:47.869 A:middle L:90%
creation services. Uh I've got a few few slides

970
00:47:47.869 --> 00:47:51.480 A:middle L:90%
on on this. Um but a lot of it

971
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:55.389 A:middle L:90%
again comes back to uh in addition to information literacy

972
00:47:55.389 --> 00:47:59.360 A:middle L:90%
, it's about visual communication, it's about multimedia design

973
00:47:59.369 --> 00:48:01.030 A:middle L:90%
. Uh There's that sense of kind of I think

974
00:48:01.030 --> 00:48:02.909 A:middle L:90%
of as social media literacy, you know, how

975
00:48:02.909 --> 00:48:05.519 A:middle L:90%
to use, how to use literacy. One of

976
00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:07.099 A:middle L:90%
my librarians who does a lot of work in this

977
00:48:07.099 --> 00:48:10.300 A:middle L:90%
area refers to adjust social information literacy, which I

978
00:48:10.309 --> 00:48:13.239 A:middle L:90%
kind of like. So I'm kind of borrowing that

979
00:48:13.250 --> 00:48:15.489 A:middle L:90%
from her more these days, but it is about

980
00:48:15.489 --> 00:48:16.389 A:middle L:90%
, you know, when it comes down to brass

981
00:48:16.389 --> 00:48:19.030 A:middle L:90%
tacks, what are we doing it? Some of

982
00:48:19.030 --> 00:48:21.059 A:middle L:90%
the stuff in the lower level that slide, it's

983
00:48:21.059 --> 00:48:22.300 A:middle L:90%
about content production. We're gonna we need to be

984
00:48:22.300 --> 00:48:27.710 A:middle L:90%
doing things like providing digital recording equipment, capture digitizing

985
00:48:27.710 --> 00:48:30.599 A:middle L:90%
, printing. Um This could be three D printers

986
00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:32.269 A:middle L:90%
, large platter printers, colour printers, black and

987
00:48:32.269 --> 00:48:36.869 A:middle L:90%
white printers, hardware, software production spaces. You

988
00:48:36.869 --> 00:48:38.230 A:middle L:90%
know, you really have to design your spaces around

989
00:48:38.230 --> 00:48:40.460 A:middle L:90%
that. Yeah, I can tell you this couple

990
00:48:40.460 --> 00:48:43.639 A:middle L:90%
slides, I have this one and others upcoming.

991
00:48:43.650 --> 00:48:45.869 A:middle L:90%
The spaces that I have photographs of these are in

992
00:48:45.869 --> 00:48:49.739 A:middle L:90%
libraries. So it's very interesting to see this.

993
00:48:49.750 --> 00:48:52.030 A:middle L:90%
And then of course when people produce things, you

994
00:48:52.030 --> 00:48:53.659 A:middle L:90%
know, they needed hosted somewhere. So content hosting

995
00:48:53.659 --> 00:48:55.860 A:middle L:90%
services is something we can do now. Yes,

996
00:48:55.860 --> 00:48:59.869 A:middle L:90%
people can put things up in in Youtube and the

997
00:48:59.869 --> 00:49:01.489 A:middle L:90%
like. Um but it's not gonna last forever.

998
00:49:01.489 --> 00:49:02.699 A:middle L:90%
I mean, I think one of the value adds

999
00:49:02.699 --> 00:49:05.920 A:middle L:90%
that all forms of libraries can offer is that,

1000
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:07.199 A:middle L:90%
you know, part of our job is to sustain

1001
00:49:07.210 --> 00:49:10.019 A:middle L:90%
information, We can we can collect these things and

1002
00:49:10.019 --> 00:49:14.000 A:middle L:90%
help keep it around longer. Then it might exist

1003
00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:20.300 A:middle L:90%
on youtube or flicker. So we're all really dependent

1004
00:49:20.300 --> 00:49:22.639 A:middle L:90%
on google, Right? What happens if google decides

1005
00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:23.039 A:middle L:90%
, you know, youtube is just not that much

1006
00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:25.519 A:middle L:90%
of a moneymaker, which, you know, I

1007
00:49:25.530 --> 00:49:28.630 A:middle L:90%
can't believe that would actually happen. Youtube is a

1008
00:49:28.630 --> 00:49:30.780 A:middle L:90%
huge moneymaker. Um, flicker might be, you

1009
00:49:30.780 --> 00:49:32.769 A:middle L:90%
know, for yahoo maybe flicker won't work out so

1010
00:49:32.769 --> 00:49:36.289 A:middle L:90%
well one day, you know, these things happen

1011
00:49:36.300 --> 00:49:37.829 A:middle L:90%
and then boom, you know, there's a lot

1012
00:49:37.829 --> 00:49:42.469 A:middle L:90%
of content that can be gone. It's a knowledge

1013
00:49:42.469 --> 00:49:45.340 A:middle L:90%
production components. So I'm getting a little repetitive here

1014
00:49:45.340 --> 00:49:46.730 A:middle L:90%
. I'm trying to make a point. So spaces

1015
00:49:46.730 --> 00:49:49.699 A:middle L:90%
tools, literacy, these, these are kind of

1016
00:49:49.699 --> 00:49:51.989 A:middle L:90%
the new language I think of, of libraries moving

1017
00:49:51.989 --> 00:49:54.090 A:middle L:90%
forward that we want to design our spaces for knowledge

1018
00:49:54.090 --> 00:49:59.219 A:middle L:90%
production, especially collaborative production. There's an awful lot

1019
00:49:59.230 --> 00:50:01.130 A:middle L:90%
of group work that needs to be done all the

1020
00:50:01.130 --> 00:50:02.920 A:middle L:90%
way, especially in school, all the way from

1021
00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:07.639 A:middle L:90%
K through 12, uh through colleges and universities.

1022
00:50:07.650 --> 00:50:09.400 A:middle L:90%
We certainly see it in our university library. Uh

1023
00:50:09.409 --> 00:50:12.519 A:middle L:90%
The work is not as solitary as it used to

1024
00:50:12.519 --> 00:50:15.210 A:middle L:90%
be, including the humanities, where an awful lot

1025
00:50:15.210 --> 00:50:19.000 A:middle L:90%
of work the culture has been um pretty solitary,

1026
00:50:19.000 --> 00:50:22.769 A:middle L:90%
but that's changing an awful lot through digital humanities projects

1027
00:50:22.769 --> 00:50:24.940 A:middle L:90%
. So people are coming together in libraries wanting to

1028
00:50:24.940 --> 00:50:29.289 A:middle L:90%
do stuff, We have to design our spaces for

1029
00:50:29.289 --> 00:50:30.639 A:middle L:90%
that. We have to think about the tools and

1030
00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:34.269 A:middle L:90%
technologies that we're providing. We have to think about

1031
00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:35.920 A:middle L:90%
, you know, what are the skills people need

1032
00:50:35.920 --> 00:50:37.489 A:middle L:90%
? What are these literacy ease that people needed to

1033
00:50:37.489 --> 00:50:39.840 A:middle L:90%
develop and that I think as a field we've we've

1034
00:50:39.840 --> 00:50:44.730 A:middle L:90%
done a very good job of defining and honing and

1035
00:50:44.739 --> 00:50:47.579 A:middle L:90%
finding a place of value add in information literacy,

1036
00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:51.340 A:middle L:90%
But in 2014 and beyond it's gonna be information literacy

1037
00:50:51.340 --> 00:50:53.030 A:middle L:90%
plus it's gonna be these other things, especially visual

1038
00:50:53.030 --> 00:50:58.090 A:middle L:90%
multimedia and data. You can't go anywhere today without

1039
00:50:58.090 --> 00:51:00.840 A:middle L:90%
seeing the phrase big data, you know, what

1040
00:51:00.849 --> 00:51:00.960 A:middle L:90%
is that? Well, a lot of us are

1041
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:04.210 A:middle L:90%
going to deal with little data and that's okay.

1042
00:51:04.219 --> 00:51:06.739 A:middle L:90%
Um it's still data. It's still computer files.

1043
00:51:06.739 --> 00:51:08.159 A:middle L:90%
It's it's an information resource that people want to do

1044
00:51:08.159 --> 00:51:10.969 A:middle L:90%
something with. So it's ok to work on all

1045
00:51:10.969 --> 00:51:14.349 A:middle L:90%
these things. But of course to do this to

1046
00:51:14.349 --> 00:51:16.099 A:middle L:90%
teach these things and instruct these people. We are

1047
00:51:16.099 --> 00:51:19.170 A:middle L:90%
members are community members, we have to learn some

1048
00:51:19.170 --> 00:51:22.250 A:middle L:90%
of these skills are cells. So I have to

1049
00:51:22.260 --> 00:51:24.699 A:middle L:90%
keep that in mind. So content creation services,

1050
00:51:24.699 --> 00:51:27.380 A:middle L:90%
you know, this is something that I've actually focused

1051
00:51:27.380 --> 00:51:30.690 A:middle L:90%
on a lot. My last three positions I've had

1052
00:51:30.690 --> 00:51:34.250 A:middle L:90%
was it's all about producing stuff. So producing journals

1053
00:51:34.250 --> 00:51:37.650 A:middle L:90%
, magazines, books, conference proceedings, video collections

1054
00:51:37.650 --> 00:51:39.000 A:middle L:90%
, et cetera. We are libraries kind of this

1055
00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:42.449 A:middle L:90%
library is publisher or libraries producer. You know,

1056
00:51:42.449 --> 00:51:45.489 A:middle L:90%
we can be this organization that helps people produce stuff

1057
00:51:45.460 --> 00:51:49.300 A:middle L:90%
and that we organize, sustain and disseminate content.

1058
00:51:49.309 --> 00:51:51.670 A:middle L:90%
And this is what the cataloguing side, right?

1059
00:51:51.670 --> 00:51:52.699 A:middle L:90%
That those of you are involved in technical services and

1060
00:51:52.699 --> 00:51:55.349 A:middle L:90%
cataloguing. We organize information. Well, I can't

1061
00:51:55.349 --> 00:51:58.929 A:middle L:90%
think of a time where organizing information has ever been

1062
00:51:58.929 --> 00:52:01.079 A:middle L:90%
more important than now because you have all this unstructured

1063
00:52:01.079 --> 00:52:04.639 A:middle L:90%
stuff. You've got citizens all over millions of people

1064
00:52:04.639 --> 00:52:07.059 A:middle L:90%
creating stuff. How much more chaos could you ask

1065
00:52:07.059 --> 00:52:08.360 A:middle L:90%
for? There's a lot of chaos and all these

1066
00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:10.719 A:middle L:90%
catalogers are just going nuts, wanting to organize all

1067
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:14.989 A:middle L:90%
that. Go organize. There's lots to do,

1068
00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:21.130 A:middle L:90%
lots to do. So the library scenario houses all

1069
00:52:21.130 --> 00:52:22.710 A:middle L:90%
kind of playing out again. You're going to see

1070
00:52:22.710 --> 00:52:24.949 A:middle L:90%
some repetition here. If I want to try it

1071
00:52:24.949 --> 00:52:27.269 A:middle L:90%
, at least in writing kind of lay out,

1072
00:52:27.269 --> 00:52:28.980 A:middle L:90%
you know, what, what is this? So

1073
00:52:28.980 --> 00:52:30.519 A:middle L:90%
there's this, you know, the library scenario,

1074
00:52:30.519 --> 00:52:32.369 A:middle L:90%
this is kind of the library that is assertively partnering

1075
00:52:32.369 --> 00:52:36.639 A:middle L:90%
in the creation and production of original content. Uh

1076
00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:39.239 A:middle L:90%
huh. I actually did this as a paper and

1077
00:52:39.250 --> 00:52:43.079 A:middle L:90%
and my PhD program really thinking a lot and with

1078
00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:45.239 A:middle L:90%
my cohort thinking a lot about how libraries are going

1079
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:50.090 A:middle L:90%
to respond, especially to copyright matters because when you're

1080
00:52:50.090 --> 00:52:52.539 A:middle L:90%
talking about mash ups and working with original content that

1081
00:52:52.539 --> 00:52:55.860 A:middle L:90%
someone else has created and committee member wants to take

1082
00:52:55.860 --> 00:52:58.929 A:middle L:90%
that and add it to what they're doing and create

1083
00:52:58.929 --> 00:53:00.170 A:middle L:90%
something else. You know, you've got copyright problems

1084
00:53:00.650 --> 00:53:04.559 A:middle L:90%
. So libraries can be either really afraid of that

1085
00:53:04.570 --> 00:53:06.260 A:middle L:90%
and don't allow any of that kind of thing to

1086
00:53:06.260 --> 00:53:09.880 A:middle L:90%
go on. Um That's not necessarily a wrong decision

1087
00:53:09.889 --> 00:53:12.909 A:middle L:90%
. It's just it's a decision with certain pros and

1088
00:53:12.909 --> 00:53:15.280 A:middle L:90%
cons or you or you can really be more assertively

1089
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:17.500 A:middle L:90%
involved with your community members and teach them how to

1090
00:53:17.500 --> 00:53:20.570 A:middle L:90%
do these things. So teaching them about rights and

1091
00:53:20.570 --> 00:53:22.360 A:middle L:90%
copyright is part of that new literacy going forward.

1092
00:53:22.360 --> 00:53:24.900 A:middle L:90%
People need to know what they really can and can't

1093
00:53:24.900 --> 00:53:28.219 A:middle L:90%
do what kind of risks they should and shouldn't be

1094
00:53:28.219 --> 00:53:30.820 A:middle L:90%
taking with with content. And it is a moving

1095
00:53:30.820 --> 00:53:35.000 A:middle L:90%
target uh with cases that are coming out today,

1096
00:53:35.010 --> 00:53:37.420 A:middle L:90%
it's been difficult, but most of the cases that

1097
00:53:37.420 --> 00:53:40.170 A:middle L:90%
you've seen today are coming down in favour of the

1098
00:53:40.170 --> 00:53:45.199 A:middle L:90%
libraries in the library position. So again, you

1099
00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:45.809 A:middle L:90%
know, spaces, I'm not gonna read all this

1100
00:53:45.809 --> 00:53:47.539 A:middle L:90%
, but you guys can all read this, but

1101
00:53:47.539 --> 00:53:50.309 A:middle L:90%
it's a sense of production comments. You know,

1102
00:53:50.309 --> 00:53:52.429 A:middle L:90%
we especially in the university libraries, we started with

1103
00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:55.440 A:middle L:90%
we start with that sense of comments and I've been

1104
00:53:55.440 --> 00:53:58.599 A:middle L:90%
one of my associate deans brian Matthews and I talked

1105
00:53:58.599 --> 00:53:59.969 A:middle L:90%
about this. We're trying to come up with another

1106
00:53:59.980 --> 00:54:02.519 A:middle L:90%
another phrase beyond just learning spaces and comments. But

1107
00:54:02.519 --> 00:54:05.739 A:middle L:90%
there's this we we kind of talked about our space

1108
00:54:05.739 --> 00:54:07.960 A:middle L:90%
is becoming knowledge studios and that we all do knowledge

1109
00:54:07.960 --> 00:54:12.590 A:middle L:90%
production across the library but their their studios where you

1110
00:54:12.590 --> 00:54:14.719 A:middle L:90%
need a lot of equipment and it's designed in a

1111
00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:17.110 A:middle L:90%
particular way to help produce certain kinds of things through

1112
00:54:17.110 --> 00:54:21.309 A:middle L:90%
those groups of technologies. So it really is more

1113
00:54:21.309 --> 00:54:24.309 A:middle L:90%
of a studio like environment. Um and people produce

1114
00:54:24.320 --> 00:54:29.469 A:middle L:90%
so services in the sense are really about removing barriers

1115
00:54:29.480 --> 00:54:30.289 A:middle L:90%
for people in all of our communities. We want

1116
00:54:30.289 --> 00:54:32.039 A:middle L:90%
to provide the hardware and the software is that are

1117
00:54:32.039 --> 00:54:36.610 A:middle L:90%
required for people to do things. And then we

1118
00:54:36.610 --> 00:54:37.519 A:middle L:90%
want to help host that content. People want.

1119
00:54:37.530 --> 00:54:39.840 A:middle L:90%
People don't just create content to go hide it.

1120
00:54:39.849 --> 00:54:43.329 A:middle L:90%
Especially today you can put it up in a wiki

1121
00:54:43.329 --> 00:54:45.710 A:middle L:90%
blog, et cetera. Pretty easily. We want

1122
00:54:45.710 --> 00:54:47.360 A:middle L:90%
to help people understand how to kind of get the

1123
00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:51.309 A:middle L:90%
maximum benefit out of the content they created. How

1124
00:54:51.309 --> 00:54:52.119 A:middle L:90%
to get it out there, where to put it

1125
00:54:52.130 --> 00:54:54.599 A:middle L:90%
how and then how they're going to sustain it over

1126
00:54:54.599 --> 00:54:59.579 A:middle L:90%
time. And part of that is social networking and

1127
00:54:59.590 --> 00:55:00.710 A:middle L:90%
to learn more about how to use the various social

1128
00:55:00.710 --> 00:55:02.860 A:middle L:90%
networking platforms out there for what they want to do

1129
00:55:05.039 --> 00:55:07.170 A:middle L:90%
. Okay, so this is kind of the rights

1130
00:55:07.179 --> 00:55:09.369 A:middle L:90%
part of it. And I don't want to talk

1131
00:55:09.369 --> 00:55:12.280 A:middle L:90%
a lot about this, but uh, you know

1132
00:55:12.280 --> 00:55:13.869 A:middle L:90%
, I want to point out that, you know

1133
00:55:13.869 --> 00:55:15.250 A:middle L:90%
, this writes correct. I mean this is one

1134
00:55:15.250 --> 00:55:16.429 A:middle L:90%
of the things we can just kind of talk about

1135
00:55:16.440 --> 00:55:19.650 A:middle L:90%
all day and I feel like we've learned any more

1136
00:55:19.650 --> 00:55:22.690 A:middle L:90%
about it, so we're not gonna do that.

1137
00:55:22.699 --> 00:55:25.590 A:middle L:90%
But rights as part of the whole literacy thing and

1138
00:55:25.590 --> 00:55:28.780 A:middle L:90%
part of the whole content production thing that we need

1139
00:55:28.780 --> 00:55:31.050 A:middle L:90%
to learn more about. What can we do with

1140
00:55:31.050 --> 00:55:35.309 A:middle L:90%
existing content. Um what do we do with you

1141
00:55:35.309 --> 00:55:38.690 A:middle L:90%
know with the original content of others? And it

1142
00:55:38.690 --> 00:55:42.280 A:middle L:90%
is a role, it is a role that a

1143
00:55:42.280 --> 00:55:44.929 A:middle L:90%
library can play within its parent institution. That's kind

1144
00:55:44.929 --> 00:55:45.960 A:middle L:90%
of my middle bullet here. It is an opportunity

1145
00:55:45.960 --> 00:55:49.989 A:middle L:90%
for a leadership role. A lot of university struggle

1146
00:55:49.989 --> 00:55:52.980 A:middle L:90%
, municipalities struggle uh counties struggle, a lot of

1147
00:55:52.980 --> 00:55:55.449 A:middle L:90%
organizations, non profits. They all kind of struggle

1148
00:55:55.449 --> 00:55:59.469 A:middle L:90%
with what can they do with content. Nobody wants

1149
00:55:59.469 --> 00:56:00.539 A:middle L:90%
to get sued, nobody wants to get in trouble

1150
00:56:01.130 --> 00:56:07.280 A:middle L:90%
. So if we can develop more prowess more expertise

1151
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:09.010 A:middle L:90%
ourselves, there is this possibility that we can actually

1152
00:56:09.010 --> 00:56:12.340 A:middle L:90%
think kind of become a bit of this this copyright

1153
00:56:12.340 --> 00:56:15.880 A:middle L:90%
or I. P. Intellectual property expert for our

1154
00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:20.860 A:middle L:90%
parent institutions in particular. What happens to content and

1155
00:56:20.860 --> 00:56:22.420 A:middle L:90%
publishing role? An awful lot of what I've been

1156
00:56:22.420 --> 00:56:23.719 A:middle L:90%
talking about is production. Well, you know,

1157
00:56:23.719 --> 00:56:27.730 A:middle L:90%
publishing and production are not that far apart anymore as

1158
00:56:27.730 --> 00:56:29.690 A:middle L:90%
to what those those kinds of things really are.

1159
00:56:29.690 --> 00:56:30.349 A:middle L:90%
So, you know, your library could be the

1160
00:56:30.349 --> 00:56:37.449 A:middle L:90%
publisher of your local community pretty easily today. So

1161
00:56:37.449 --> 00:56:40.989 A:middle L:90%
again, we want to focus on processes an idea

1162
00:56:40.989 --> 00:56:45.079 A:middle L:90%
generation, not just the product. Historically as libraries

1163
00:56:45.090 --> 00:56:46.139 A:middle L:90%
, we collect products, right? We collect the

1164
00:56:46.139 --> 00:56:50.159 A:middle L:90%
books and journals, we collect manuscripts and photographs and

1165
00:56:50.630 --> 00:56:52.559 A:middle L:90%
and all those kinds of materials as one to start

1166
00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:55.030 A:middle L:90%
on archives. I collected all sorts of different kinds

1167
00:56:55.030 --> 00:56:59.719 A:middle L:90%
of things. But we want to really focus on

1168
00:56:59.719 --> 00:57:02.880 A:middle L:90%
processes today. This process of production and creation and

1169
00:57:02.889 --> 00:57:06.079 A:middle L:90%
what are the value adds we can provide. You

1170
00:57:06.079 --> 00:57:07.840 A:middle L:90%
know, there are literacy is we can help people

1171
00:57:07.840 --> 00:57:08.670 A:middle L:90%
build, there's instruction, we can do, there's

1172
00:57:08.670 --> 00:57:10.900 A:middle L:90%
technology, we can provide their spaces, we can

1173
00:57:10.900 --> 00:57:15.440 A:middle L:90%
design and provide both physical and virtual. So these

1174
00:57:15.440 --> 00:57:20.349 A:middle L:90%
are very important items and we can help manage that

1175
00:57:20.349 --> 00:57:27.340 A:middle L:90%
information. So this is really my last slide.

1176
00:57:27.929 --> 00:57:29.809 A:middle L:90%
This is the slide I'm gonna use and kind of

1177
00:57:29.809 --> 00:57:31.650 A:middle L:90%
focus on after lunch. So I'll talk about this

1178
00:57:31.650 --> 00:57:34.699 A:middle L:90%
very briefly here. I don't want to give up

1179
00:57:34.699 --> 00:57:37.289 A:middle L:90%
all my secrets. Um staff roles. You know

1180
00:57:37.289 --> 00:57:39.380 A:middle L:90%
, this is there's more than just this, but

1181
00:57:39.389 --> 00:57:45.539 A:middle L:90%
in particular, what do professional associates do in this

1182
00:57:45.550 --> 00:57:47.329 A:middle L:90%
role? There's there's a lot, but if you

1183
00:57:47.329 --> 00:57:51.269 A:middle L:90%
kind of take this lens of perspective to library work

1184
00:57:51.269 --> 00:57:52.510 A:middle L:90%
and what are we doing, there's an awful lot

1185
00:57:52.510 --> 00:57:54.099 A:middle L:90%
of things that we can do. There are these

1186
00:57:54.099 --> 00:57:59.139 A:middle L:90%
community embedded positions, community relations, community engagement become

1187
00:57:59.139 --> 00:58:02.559 A:middle L:90%
very important. Training and management of public technologies and

1188
00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:07.710 A:middle L:90%
our spaces become very, very important managing the space

1189
00:58:07.719 --> 00:58:12.880 A:middle L:90%
itself, moving furniture around, deploying technology, asking

1190
00:58:12.880 --> 00:58:15.510 A:middle L:90%
questions. People come to the reference desk less and

1191
00:58:15.510 --> 00:58:16.230 A:middle L:90%
less, but they're out there on our floor is

1192
00:58:16.230 --> 00:58:19.800 A:middle L:90%
trying to do things. So that sense of roving

1193
00:58:19.800 --> 00:58:22.239 A:middle L:90%
and helping people is very important. A lot of

1194
00:58:22.239 --> 00:58:24.280 A:middle L:90%
, just in time assistance needs, needs to be

1195
00:58:24.280 --> 00:58:27.760 A:middle L:90%
given. Don't always need to be a really deep

1196
00:58:27.760 --> 00:58:29.619 A:middle L:90%
expert to be able to do this. A lot

1197
00:58:29.619 --> 00:58:32.460 A:middle L:90%
of people just struggle with with something in Photoshop.

1198
00:58:32.469 --> 00:58:34.869 A:middle L:90%
Uh, they might just need a little bit of

1199
00:58:34.869 --> 00:58:36.619 A:middle L:90%
help. They might need a little bit of help

1200
00:58:36.619 --> 00:58:39.119 A:middle L:90%
getting that three d printer started something of that nature

1201
00:58:39.130 --> 00:58:42.030 A:middle L:90%
. So there's a lot of basic things we can

1202
00:58:42.030 --> 00:58:43.880 A:middle L:90%
do as well as more of the high end stuff

1203
00:58:43.880 --> 00:58:45.389 A:middle L:90%
, so more on that later. But there's,

1204
00:58:45.400 --> 00:58:46.869 A:middle L:90%
you know, to me, the good news is

1205
00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:50.190 A:middle L:90%
there's lots to do. There is a it's a

1206
00:58:50.190 --> 00:58:52.829 A:middle L:90%
really vibrant time for libraries that are willing to kind

1207
00:58:52.829 --> 00:58:55.440 A:middle L:90%
of, I think, and we re imagine their

1208
00:58:55.440 --> 00:59:00.699 A:middle L:90%
role and grow and go forward. So that's what

1209
00:59:00.699 --> 00:59:05.119 A:middle L:90%
I have for you this morning. See if you

1210
00:59:05.119 --> 00:59:07.650 A:middle L:90%
have any questions, anything you'd like to talk about

1211
00:59:07.519 --> 00:59:08.699 A:middle L:90%
, and I just kind of leave you with this

1212
00:59:08.699 --> 00:59:12.369 A:middle L:90%
parting thought in my contact, once, I'm always

1213
00:59:12.369 --> 00:59:15.300 A:middle L:90%
happy to follow up today or after today. If

1214
00:59:15.300 --> 00:59:15.639 A:middle L:90%
you want to reach me by phone or email,

1215
00:59:15.639 --> 00:59:19.570 A:middle L:90%
happy to talk with you. So, thank you

1216
00:59:19.570 --> 00:59:31.019 A:middle L:90%
for your time. Okay, questions comments. Yeah

1217
00:59:35.420 --> 00:59:40.230 A:middle L:90%
, all makes perfect sense. Right, so thank

1218
00:59:40.230 --> 00:59:44.920 A:middle L:90%
you so much for your sharing your perspective and your

1219
00:59:44.920 --> 00:59:50.469 A:middle L:90%
model of uh what libraries are, acknowledges that result

1220
00:59:50.480 --> 00:59:53.079 A:middle L:90%
, but my head was like, mhm, okay

1221
00:59:53.090 --> 00:59:54.619 A:middle L:90%
, well, thank you. Exactly mean, my

1222
00:59:54.619 --> 00:59:58.289 A:middle L:90%
head is buzzing too. I mean, in a

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good way. Yeah, I mean I think about

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this all the time and you know it for me

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it feels like You know that this is kind of

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this ages last 10 years or so. It's like

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it's that same period when the printing press was was

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created, when the typewriter was created. Even when

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you know when Papyrus was used and ink was set

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on to it. It's it's like that. I

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mean and what we do today, what we choose

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to do is libraries today is going to Set the

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tone and the model for what we do in the

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next 10 years and then 10 years after that.

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So you know I can't emphasize enough that this is

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such an important time that we you know some of

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us could wither some of us are but there are

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many libraries that are really succeeding in becoming more used

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01:00:37.139 --> 01:00:39.219 A:middle L:90%
and more vibrant today. And so that's the good

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message. He'll make your PowerPoint transformation available. Mhm

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01:00:46.809 --> 01:00:49.130 A:middle L:90%
. Yeah, we'll find a way to do that

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01:00:49.610 --> 01:00:52.739 A:middle L:90%
. Yeah. What's your name? Mhm. Yeah

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01:00:53.110 --> 01:00:55.650 A:middle L:90%
. Oh there is a recording of the talk as

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well um if you want to get to that but

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01:00:58.969 --> 01:01:00.260 A:middle L:90%
we can put the slides up somewhere there there's a

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conference website, right page. So maybe we can

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put it up. They're recording is going to end

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up in the Virginia Tech Libraries repository. V Tech

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01:01:07.570 --> 01:01:13.030 A:middle L:90%
works. So you can you can go there.

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01:01:13.409 --> 01:01:15.710 A:middle L:90%
Okay, just we'll put a link to the video

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on the website as well. So anything else?

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Yeah, I'm just concerned about combating the image that

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libraries are dying many people out there joking about people

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01:01:34.460 --> 01:01:37.989 A:middle L:90%
libraries and it's great to come to a conference like

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this and people were already supporters of libraries. Sorry

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01:01:43.809 --> 01:01:45.809 A:middle L:90%
. Mhm. I don't really have a question.

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01:01:45.809 --> 01:01:49.630 A:middle L:90%
I just have a concern about this whole new way

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as part of this new way. Years back,

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01:01:52.110 --> 01:01:58.440 A:middle L:90%
libraries are even in corn and libraries being used and

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01:01:58.440 --> 01:02:00.610 A:middle L:90%
we all know that exactly the other, you know

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01:02:01.099 --> 01:02:07.610 A:middle L:90%
, So. Right. Mhm. I mean,

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so one of the roles I talk about is kind

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of this community relations. Um I mean that goes

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that that's out in the community as well as kind

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of our resource allocators above us and the work chart

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. They're part of that community. We need to

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You're right. I mean, we need to keep

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putting the word out. I mean, I can

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tell you in my libraries at Virginia Tech, Our

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head count through the doorways has gone up 85 in

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the last five years. Our just our journal article

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downloads are going up at about 10% a year.

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Were over 2.6 million downloads. We even get more

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01:02:36.079 --> 01:02:38.099 A:middle L:90%
. We create a digital repository, uh an institutional

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repository that didn't exist two years ago. And it

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01:02:40.369 --> 01:02:44.389 A:middle L:90%
already has 2.5 million downloads in this last year.

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01:02:44.400 --> 01:02:46.469 A:middle L:90%
So, you know, the good news is we've

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always known you put something up on the internet and

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01:02:50.130 --> 01:02:52.460 A:middle L:90%
people find it it gets used. And I think

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this is, you know, we can I think

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libraries we look at we've always evolved with the times

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. We just kind of, You know, don't

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think about that all the time. And so we

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go from, you know, again typewriters to photocopiers

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01:03:05.079 --> 01:03:07.349 A:middle L:90%
, two PCS, etc. We we always have

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done this. So we're just in the middle of

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this great time of evolution this next 10 and 20

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years is really important. And I think if we

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conceive of information broadly as content, there's a ton

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we can do. Yeah, it's really a good

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01:03:21.590 --> 01:03:22.849 A:middle L:90%
a good time. I get that. When I'm

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01:03:22.849 --> 01:03:24.170 A:middle L:90%
out on the street, someone says, oh,

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01:03:24.170 --> 01:03:25.340 A:middle L:90%
you know it, So what do you do?

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01:03:25.340 --> 01:03:28.590 A:middle L:90%
So I run a library. They're like, well

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, what's that like today? Everything's online, right

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? You know, I don't want to ask,

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you know, the person sitting left to me,

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I can tell you is like, don't do that

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because I will bend your ear for the rest of

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the day. It's like, oh, let me

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tell you what we're doing. You know, just

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01:03:40.710 --> 01:03:43.590 A:middle L:90%
kind of go on and on and on about.

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01:03:43.599 --> 01:03:45.730 A:middle L:90%
But it is amazing the misperceptions out there. People

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01:03:45.730 --> 01:03:47.630 A:middle L:90%
think that, that, you know, everything's free

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01:03:47.630 --> 01:03:51.059 A:middle L:90%
online. Well, it's, you know, it's

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01:03:51.059 --> 01:03:52.599 A:middle L:90%
not we, you know, your libraries purchase things

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01:03:52.599 --> 01:03:57.650 A:middle L:90%
and license things and, and share between libraries that

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that still goes on. So there's a lot of

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01:03:59.659 --> 01:04:03.130 A:middle L:90%
concepts that people still don't get about the web itself

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and that's kind of why I emphasize it. Um

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and that's part of the community literacy that we need

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to be building. I mean kind of what I'm

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01:04:11.739 --> 01:04:13.760 A:middle L:90%
talking about here, there's a bit of a production

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01:04:13.760 --> 01:04:15.239 A:middle L:90%
literacy, you know, how to produce stuff,

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01:04:15.250 --> 01:04:17.690 A:middle L:90%
but we also just need to understand the web itself

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. And I run across this probably every week where

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I just listen to somebody. I realized they really

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just don't get it yet. And I think,

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you know, we can be irritated by that or

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we can help people learn. And I think,

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you know, libraries are this great place where we

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01:04:31.170 --> 01:04:34.469 A:middle L:90%
can we help people learn about tools and things so

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01:04:34.469 --> 01:04:41.159 A:middle L:90%
that we can do this town. Yes, I

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01:04:41.159 --> 01:04:45.460 A:middle L:90%
don't get the concept library. So what sort of

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01:04:45.460 --> 01:04:47.639 A:middle L:90%
laboratory where you can do and create that? Uh

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01:04:47.639 --> 01:04:50.510 A:middle L:90%
huh. I guess my question for is how are

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01:04:50.510 --> 01:04:54.650 A:middle L:90%
you allowing your customer education? Are they allowed to

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01:04:54.659 --> 01:04:58.719 A:middle L:90%
take these resources outside the library? Have audiovisual which

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they can use beyond like GoPro camera maybe check out

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. Yeah. Do their own work with, how

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01:05:05.349 --> 01:05:09.260 A:middle L:90%
did that relay back in house? That's got to

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01:05:09.269 --> 01:05:13.909 A:middle L:90%
be saved by the library with their own creation now

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01:05:13.909 --> 01:05:15.199 A:middle L:90%
, it's a good question. So I mean I

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can tell you kind of what we're doing in our

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library and I feel like for universities it's a little

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01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:21.300 A:middle L:90%
bit easier because generally these are either these are faculty

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staff or students who borrow things and a lot of

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01:05:24.559 --> 01:05:27.170 A:middle L:90%
times its students. So you know, we have

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01:05:27.170 --> 01:05:29.349 A:middle L:90%
that relationship with the registrar's office. I mean I

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01:05:29.349 --> 01:05:30.800 A:middle L:90%
know what you're thinking, what most of us are

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01:05:30.800 --> 01:05:31.599 A:middle L:90%
thinking about. God, she had this expensive camera

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01:05:31.599 --> 01:05:33.650 A:middle L:90%
. What happens if it doesn't come back? Well

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01:05:33.650 --> 01:05:35.320 A:middle L:90%
in our case the student does not ever get a

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01:05:35.320 --> 01:05:40.079 A:middle L:90%
diploma. If they, if they don't return it

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01:05:40.079 --> 01:05:42.199 A:middle L:90%
, nor do they get grades that semester. I

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mean, you know, there's some power in the

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registrar's office. So you know, in a public

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01:05:45.869 --> 01:05:46.670 A:middle L:90%
library setting, it's a little bit, it's a

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01:05:46.670 --> 01:05:48.230 A:middle L:90%
little bit different. I mean, and you see

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public libraries who will like team up with their department

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of motor vehicles, which I think is an ingenious

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01:05:54.199 --> 01:05:55.940 A:middle L:90%
, like if you're gonna walk off from a public

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01:05:55.940 --> 01:05:57.489 A:middle L:90%
library with a camera, not bring it back,

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01:05:57.489 --> 01:05:59.269 A:middle L:90%
then you know, you're going to get your license

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01:05:59.269 --> 01:06:00.389 A:middle L:90%
revoked or you're certainly not going to get it renewed

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01:06:00.400 --> 01:06:02.840 A:middle L:90%
. Uh, something along those lines. So you

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01:06:02.840 --> 01:06:05.440 A:middle L:90%
know, we don't mean to be mean about these

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things, but yeah, you know, if we

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01:06:06.860 --> 01:06:11.250 A:middle L:90%
can loan equipment, it is expensive. So we

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01:06:11.250 --> 01:06:13.960 A:middle L:90%
have to be careful. We loan laptops, which

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01:06:13.960 --> 01:06:15.940 A:middle L:90%
has been a godsend for some students when the laptop

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breaks, believe it or not, students today are

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01:06:17.550 --> 01:06:19.610 A:middle L:90%
still kind of poor. They don't have lots and

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lots of money. They're required to come to school

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01:06:21.360 --> 01:06:24.400 A:middle L:90%
with a laptop. And we've seen students who want

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01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:25.809 A:middle L:90%
a laptop breaks, you know, they call mom

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01:06:25.809 --> 01:06:27.250 A:middle L:90%
or dad and they're in tears. You know,

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they don't know what to do. They borrow,

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01:06:28.510 --> 01:06:30.940 A:middle L:90%
borrow one from us to get through the semester something

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along those lines. So we do loan things out

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01:06:33.820 --> 01:06:41.650 A:middle L:90%
all sorts of cameras, tablets as well, ipads

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01:06:41.659 --> 01:06:43.929 A:middle L:90%
. We were trying to loan out more and more

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01:06:43.929 --> 01:06:45.300 A:middle L:90%
high end equipment as well as low end equipment.

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And sometimes, especially for classes, people do create

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01:06:48.449 --> 01:06:50.079 A:middle L:90%
things and and bring it back to us. And

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01:06:50.079 --> 01:06:51.730 A:middle L:90%
that's where the lot of this will end up in

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01:06:51.730 --> 01:06:55.659 A:middle L:90%
our repository. And that kind of work faculty as

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01:06:55.659 --> 01:06:58.159 A:middle L:90%
well. So that's, yeah, that's part of

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it. And I guess you've heard me say a

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01:06:59.679 --> 01:07:00.440 A:middle L:90%
couple times already, but I just go back to

1381
01:07:00.449 --> 01:07:02.389 A:middle L:90%
, you know, the days of the typewriter and

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early on with photocopiers, we've provided that stuff.

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We taught people how to use it. You know

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, why not? You know, how is this

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01:07:08.420 --> 01:07:10.460 A:middle L:90%
any different in that regard? This is just the

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01:07:10.460 --> 01:07:12.500 A:middle L:90%
latest technology. We need to buy it, loan

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it, get it out there for some of us

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01:07:15.030 --> 01:07:15.980 A:middle L:90%
there. You know, there are, especially in

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public libraries. You know, we've seen the Gates

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Foundation do an awful lot with Pcs and libraries.

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There are foundations out there that will help us all

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kind of get started with the equipment that's necessary.

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So it's not an inexpensive investment, but it's one

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of those, uh, you know, another thing

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01:07:30.449 --> 01:07:32.750 A:middle L:90%
I say a lot of times is just get started

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. Don't worry about where you and don't worry about

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01:07:34.780 --> 01:07:36.710 A:middle L:90%
scaling this thing. I hear that too. How

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01:07:36.710 --> 01:07:39.590 A:middle L:90%
does that on a scale? I don't know.

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You know, and I say that a lot too

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. It's like, but let's just get started and

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01:07:43.250 --> 01:07:48.300 A:middle L:90%
see where this takes us. Yeah. Something that

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01:07:48.679 --> 01:07:53.639 A:middle L:90%
three D printers, how they, how they use

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01:07:53.639 --> 01:07:57.800 A:middle L:90%
them. This is what we have one. Oh

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, it's small. It's students kind of use it

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01:08:02.139 --> 01:08:03.760 A:middle L:90%
. It's it's up on a small area in our

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01:08:03.760 --> 01:08:06.849 A:middle L:90%
fourth floor that we're looking to actually move it so

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01:08:06.849 --> 01:08:09.539 A:middle L:90%
it's more visible. So we actually don't have a

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01:08:09.539 --> 01:08:13.420 A:middle L:90%
lot of experience with that right now. So it's

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01:08:13.420 --> 01:08:14.960 A:middle L:90%
in an area called Port. It's kind of a

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small research comments and there's a lot of high end

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01:08:16.460 --> 01:08:20.770 A:middle L:90%
software in that room. Things like Autocad for engineers

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01:08:20.770 --> 01:08:25.680 A:middle L:90%
and architects en vivo for textual analysis and the likes

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01:08:25.680 --> 01:08:27.470 A:middle L:90%
of the three D printer is sitting there right now

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01:08:27.470 --> 01:08:30.819 A:middle L:90%
. It's getting used but not tons. Um students

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01:08:30.819 --> 01:08:32.199 A:middle L:90%
a lot of times just they just need to create

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01:08:32.199 --> 01:08:34.449 A:middle L:90%
kind of models of things that they're working on.

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01:08:34.449 --> 01:08:38.180 A:middle L:90%
They can take drawings, especially the engineers and architects

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01:08:38.869 --> 01:08:41.159 A:middle L:90%
. So we see some of the usage really there

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01:08:41.170 --> 01:08:44.680 A:middle L:90%
at this point We've only bought one small one but

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they're, you know, they're getting cheaper and cheaper

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01:08:45.630 --> 01:08:47.729 A:middle L:90%
. I think the one we bought last year was

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01:08:47.729 --> 01:08:54.180 A:middle L:90%
about$2,000. So they're getting less expensive. It's

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01:08:54.180 --> 01:08:55.659 A:middle L:90%
like a, you know, they're like cars,

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01:08:55.659 --> 01:08:59.079 A:middle L:90%
almost anything you can spend almost whatever you want on

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01:08:59.079 --> 01:09:02.649 A:middle L:90%
them. They're getting less and less expensive. If

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01:09:02.649 --> 01:09:04.619 A:middle L:90%
nothing else. It's a conversation piece. It gets

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01:09:04.619 --> 01:09:09.090 A:middle L:90%
people, you know, in in the building and

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01:09:09.569 --> 01:09:12.300 A:middle L:90%
wanting to use something and the comment about the laboratory

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01:09:12.310 --> 01:09:13.920 A:middle L:90%
, I think it's kind of what we're after.

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01:09:13.920 --> 01:09:15.489 A:middle L:90%
It's that, that sense of if a student is

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01:09:15.500 --> 01:09:18.210 A:middle L:90%
, you know, in, in an environment that

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01:09:18.210 --> 01:09:21.090 A:middle L:90%
they're in an engineering building and architecture building or the

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01:09:21.090 --> 01:09:24.449 A:middle L:90%
history department and they're doing oral history or something.

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01:09:24.449 --> 01:09:26.520 A:middle L:90%
We want, we want them to come into the

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01:09:26.520 --> 01:09:29.149 A:middle L:90%
library and not necessary experience. A lot of change

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01:09:29.149 --> 01:09:30.770 A:middle L:90%
. We want to kind of think they want them

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01:09:30.770 --> 01:09:31.390 A:middle L:90%
to think of. The library is kind of that

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01:09:31.399 --> 01:09:33.789 A:middle L:90%
, that studio, that production place just away from

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01:09:33.789 --> 01:09:36.479 A:middle L:90%
their kind of their departmental home, but we want

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01:09:36.479 --> 01:09:44.109 A:middle L:90%
some similarity going on there. So anything else?

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01:09:44.279 --> 01:09:46.109 A:middle L:90%
I'm just curious how Newman like I know at the

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01:09:46.119 --> 01:09:47.590 A:middle L:90%
bar, but right. It's been coming a lot

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01:09:47.590 --> 01:09:50.930 A:middle L:90%
of study space issues even after renovations. So like

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01:09:50.939 --> 01:09:54.050 A:middle L:90%
an exam times, there's just, there's no room

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01:09:54.060 --> 01:09:56.439 A:middle L:90%
for anything have all been having a similar effect.

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01:09:57.970 --> 01:10:01.510 A:middle L:90%
Oh no room. Oh yeah, we're really tight

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01:10:01.520 --> 01:10:04.750 A:middle L:90%
. Yeah. In some ways, spaces are,

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01:10:04.760 --> 01:10:09.409 A:middle L:90%
yeah, just the lack of room is our largest

1449
01:10:09.409 --> 01:10:11.869 A:middle L:90%
challenge. Um you know, we've got some pretty

1450
01:10:11.869 --> 01:10:14.579 A:middle L:90%
creative thinkers and and things are changing up, but

1451
01:10:14.579 --> 01:10:15.539 A:middle L:90%
that's what stymies them a lot of times is trying

1452
01:10:15.539 --> 01:10:17.840 A:middle L:90%
to find the space to do things. So we

1453
01:10:17.840 --> 01:10:19.569 A:middle L:90%
just, you know, that's what we focus on

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01:10:19.960 --> 01:10:23.189 A:middle L:90%
next and we're doing what an awful lot of libraries

1455
01:10:23.189 --> 01:10:24.930 A:middle L:90%
are doing. I mean we're starting to move some

1456
01:10:24.930 --> 01:10:28.439 A:middle L:90%
of our collections offsite, we create that space.

1457
01:10:29.359 --> 01:10:30.479 A:middle L:90%
You know, that's not been difficult for us to

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01:10:30.479 --> 01:10:31.869 A:middle L:90%
do. You know, if you talk to some

1459
01:10:31.869 --> 01:10:33.829 A:middle L:90%
of our, you know, our faculty, there's

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01:10:33.829 --> 01:10:38.010 A:middle L:90%
there's consternation about that. But you know, there

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01:10:38.020 --> 01:10:40.680 A:middle L:90%
what we've been doing in our case mostly is we've

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01:10:40.680 --> 01:10:44.600 A:middle L:90%
been moving print journals, not books Off site.

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01:10:44.600 --> 01:10:45.789 A:middle L:90%
And we've been buying trying to save up money and

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01:10:45.789 --> 01:10:49.680 A:middle L:90%
buy more electronic journal packages back file packages and kind

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01:10:49.680 --> 01:10:53.270 A:middle L:90%
of retire the print. But we've we've got a

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01:10:53.270 --> 01:10:56.520 A:middle L:90%
whole slew of print books that are 4050 years old

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01:10:56.520 --> 01:11:00.699 A:middle L:90%
and have circulated haven't circulated since like 1980 That that

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01:11:00.699 --> 01:11:03.090 A:middle L:90%
we you know we we've sliced and diced the data

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01:11:03.090 --> 01:11:05.390 A:middle L:90%
. This is where you really need collections managers,

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01:11:05.390 --> 01:11:08.359 A:middle L:90%
you can really analyze your collection today. And I

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01:11:08.369 --> 01:11:11.449 A:middle L:90%
think we have a spreadsheet now of anything print anything

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01:11:11.449 --> 01:11:15.489 A:middle L:90%
published before 1970 That's been checked out once or less

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01:11:15.500 --> 01:11:19.029 A:middle L:90%
since since 1990 and and at least 500 libraries in

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01:11:19.029 --> 01:11:23.850 A:middle L:90%
the US. habit in no clc something and there's

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01:11:23.859 --> 01:11:27.159 A:middle L:90%
there's tens of thousands of books like that that we

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01:11:27.159 --> 01:11:29.489 A:middle L:90%
have. So you know, we can easily move

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01:11:29.489 --> 01:11:32.630 A:middle L:90%
those things to offsite storage And we've improved that service

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01:11:32.630 --> 01:11:35.260 A:middle L:90%
. Well we'll bring things to campus in 24 hours

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01:11:35.260 --> 01:11:36.520 A:middle L:90%
. We used to just bring it to the cirque

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01:11:36.520 --> 01:11:41.060 A:middle L:90%
desk. Now we'll bring it to any any academic

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01:11:41.060 --> 01:11:43.590 A:middle L:90%
department office location. We asked them to register with

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01:11:43.590 --> 01:11:46.069 A:middle L:90%
us, we want one location and and we'll go

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01:11:46.079 --> 01:11:48.970 A:middle L:90%
and drop off that book. Um You know,

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01:11:48.979 --> 01:11:50.850 A:middle L:90%
next we kind of figured out that people want to

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01:11:50.850 --> 01:11:53.119 A:middle L:90%
bring it back there, they don't want to bring

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01:11:53.119 --> 01:11:54.640 A:middle L:90%
it back to the library and we kind of thought

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01:11:54.649 --> 01:11:56.220 A:middle L:90%
, oh gee we didn't think about that picking up

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01:11:56.220 --> 01:11:58.140 A:middle L:90%
the book. So now we're now we're kind of

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01:11:58.140 --> 01:11:59.649 A:middle L:90%
working on that, you know, to go go

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01:11:59.649 --> 01:12:00.539 A:middle L:90%
pick it up. So again, there are things

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01:12:00.539 --> 01:12:02.119 A:middle L:90%
you can do in the print world that can really

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01:12:02.119 --> 01:12:03.949 A:middle L:90%
help to like that, just make it very,

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01:12:03.949 --> 01:12:08.739 A:middle L:90%
very easy for people to use the print. And

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01:12:08.739 --> 01:12:10.079 A:middle L:90%
that was part of the change to, we had

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01:12:10.079 --> 01:12:13.149 A:middle L:90%
some librarians at first has said, well, wait

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01:12:13.149 --> 01:12:14.949 A:middle L:90%
a minute, they need to learn Library of Congress

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01:12:14.949 --> 01:12:16.210 A:middle L:90%
classification schemes. They've got to learn how to find

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01:12:16.220 --> 01:12:19.329 A:middle L:90%
things. Well, you know that for us at

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01:12:19.329 --> 01:12:21.960 A:middle L:90%
least that's that's beginning to be less and less of

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01:12:21.960 --> 01:12:24.619 A:middle L:90%
the case. And they kind of realize that well

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01:12:24.619 --> 01:12:26.920 A:middle L:90%
in our case, about 99 a half percent of

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01:12:26.920 --> 01:12:30.250 A:middle L:90%
our journals are online. We have 2.5 rows of

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01:12:30.250 --> 01:12:32.100 A:middle L:90%
print journals in the library now. And we're beginning

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01:12:32.100 --> 01:12:33.810 A:middle L:90%
to buy more and more E books were probably up

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01:12:33.810 --> 01:12:36.789 A:middle L:90%
to seven or 800,000 e books. A lot of

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01:12:36.789 --> 01:12:40.970 A:middle L:90%
print books still. But both it's very early days

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01:12:40.970 --> 01:12:43.689 A:middle L:90%
for for the e book. So the idea of

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01:12:43.699 --> 01:12:45.829 A:middle L:90%
part of that literacy of learning Library of Congress classification

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01:12:45.829 --> 01:12:49.250 A:middle L:90%
schemes becomes it's still needed, but it's less of

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01:12:49.250 --> 01:12:51.420 A:middle L:90%
an issue. And it become, and you know

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01:12:51.420 --> 01:12:54.840 A:middle L:90%
, why do we have that classification scheme to organize

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01:12:54.840 --> 01:12:57.770 A:middle L:90%
material so people can find things easily on the shelves

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01:12:58.050 --> 01:12:59.619 A:middle L:90%
? So that's the point. So why not,

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01:12:59.630 --> 01:13:01.239 A:middle L:90%
why not ship it to them? Why not drive

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01:13:01.239 --> 01:13:02.750 A:middle L:90%
it out to their office or drive it to the

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01:13:02.750 --> 01:13:04.970 A:middle L:90%
service desk if that's what they want and then pick

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01:13:04.970 --> 01:13:06.869 A:middle L:90%
it up from them. So we're doing things like

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01:13:06.869 --> 01:13:09.359 A:middle L:90%
that, just trying to make it very, very

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01:13:09.359 --> 01:13:12.760 A:middle L:90%
easy to use our print collections. And it's helping

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01:13:15.949 --> 01:13:19.340 A:middle L:90%
, um, you mentioned multimedia projects part of the

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01:13:19.350 --> 01:13:24.380 A:middle L:90%
presentation and I'm sure all the late, uh,

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01:13:24.390 --> 01:13:27.779 A:middle L:90%
often times it's difficult for us to convince back with

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01:13:27.789 --> 01:13:31.090 A:middle L:90%
you to incorporate new types of assignments in their regular

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01:13:31.100 --> 01:13:33.649 A:middle L:90%
curriculum. I was wondering if you could maybe share

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01:13:33.649 --> 01:13:41.250 A:middle L:90%
with this a couple of examples, incorporate projects.

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01:13:44.260 --> 01:13:47.289 A:middle L:90%
You're absolutely right. It's very difficult. So this

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01:13:47.289 --> 01:13:49.770 A:middle L:90%
is for me this is where it is literally brick

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01:13:49.779 --> 01:13:53.859 A:middle L:90%
by brick, one by one. It's about identifying

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01:13:53.869 --> 01:13:56.989 A:middle L:90%
, finding ways to identify faculty who will do some

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01:13:56.989 --> 01:13:58.590 A:middle L:90%
of that. So we, we've done that through

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01:13:58.590 --> 01:14:00.449 A:middle L:90%
like many grant programs. We've been, we've done

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01:14:00.449 --> 01:14:02.869 A:middle L:90%
some, many grant programs in conjunction with our Learning

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01:14:02.869 --> 01:14:06.710 A:middle L:90%
Technology division on campus. It's under, under the

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01:14:06.720 --> 01:14:11.409 A:middle L:90%
VP for Information Technology. And you know, that's

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01:14:11.409 --> 01:14:12.920 A:middle L:90%
one way to kind of tease them out. It's

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01:14:12.920 --> 01:14:14.380 A:middle L:90%
not a lot of money. I think we each

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01:14:14.380 --> 01:14:17.050 A:middle L:90%
put in like seven or$8000 and the faculty member

1538
01:14:17.050 --> 01:14:20.079 A:middle L:90%
might get five or 600 bucks to do something.

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01:14:20.079 --> 01:14:23.250 A:middle L:90%
Maybe it's about buying, um, you know,

1540
01:14:23.250 --> 01:14:26.319 A:middle L:90%
some equipment, but we've, we've had one professor

1541
01:14:26.319 --> 01:14:28.779 A:middle L:90%
in particular in the history department has actually worked with

1542
01:14:28.779 --> 01:14:32.880 A:middle L:90%
our Associate Dean for Learning on kind of re using

1543
01:14:32.890 --> 01:14:36.760 A:middle L:90%
Wordpress in the classroom using different plug ins, different

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01:14:38.239 --> 01:14:41.010 A:middle L:90%
, different kind of tables and charts and colors and

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01:14:41.020 --> 01:14:44.810 A:middle L:90%
and uh plugging in multimedia that's been developed other places

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01:14:44.810 --> 01:14:46.119 A:middle L:90%
kind of using digital humanities projects that have been developed

1547
01:14:46.119 --> 01:14:49.520 A:middle L:90%
at other universities and pulling them into in toward press

1548
01:14:49.520 --> 01:14:53.739 A:middle L:90%
and into the classroom. So I think that's that's

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01:14:53.739 --> 01:14:56.770 A:middle L:90%
one quick example. But there are, you know

1550
01:14:56.779 --> 01:14:58.710 A:middle L:90%
, it's kind of hard to find sometimes. But

1551
01:14:58.710 --> 01:15:00.119 A:middle L:90%
there are faculty out there who want to change the

1552
01:15:00.119 --> 01:15:02.399 A:middle L:90%
way they teach and they realize that that's a better

1553
01:15:02.399 --> 01:15:08.979 A:middle L:90%
pedagogical approach than just than just lecturing or reading things

1554
01:15:08.979 --> 01:15:10.909 A:middle L:90%
to people. But but you're right, not everybody

1555
01:15:10.909 --> 01:15:12.800 A:middle L:90%
thinks that way, but this is where, I

1556
01:15:12.800 --> 01:15:15.439 A:middle L:90%
mean about libraries today, we're a leadership organization.

1557
01:15:15.439 --> 01:15:18.210 A:middle L:90%
We can help lead people to doing things in a

1558
01:15:18.220 --> 01:15:21.609 A:middle L:90%
more engaging, more visual way. There's a,

1559
01:15:21.619 --> 01:15:25.300 A:middle L:90%
there's a lot of educational research that shows that we

1560
01:15:25.300 --> 01:15:28.579 A:middle L:90%
all learn better through things like problem based learning,

1561
01:15:28.579 --> 01:15:31.460 A:middle L:90%
collaborative learning. Um, we a quick aside,

1562
01:15:31.460 --> 01:15:33.010 A:middle L:90%
but you know, in, in Newman Library at

1563
01:15:33.010 --> 01:15:35.189 A:middle L:90%
VT, we've built with the College of Science,

1564
01:15:35.189 --> 01:15:39.399 A:middle L:90%
we built a scale up classroom, We donated the

1565
01:15:39.399 --> 01:15:43.039 A:middle L:90%
space. They paid for 80 of the construction and

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01:15:43.050 --> 01:15:45.210 A:middle L:90%
it seats 72 students. Now there's a table rounds

1567
01:15:45.210 --> 01:15:48.029 A:middle L:90%
, there's eight tables where nine students can sit in

1568
01:15:48.029 --> 01:15:51.310 A:middle L:90%
the College of Science teaches there, they teach,

1569
01:15:51.319 --> 01:15:54.810 A:middle L:90%
they get half 50 of the use of the room

1570
01:15:54.819 --> 01:15:56.489 A:middle L:90%
, we get the other 50%. So we do

1571
01:15:56.489 --> 01:15:58.890 A:middle L:90%
library instruction in there as well. And then it's

1572
01:15:58.890 --> 01:16:00.930 A:middle L:90%
open evenings, weekends for students. But the College

1573
01:16:00.930 --> 01:16:02.920 A:middle L:90%
of Science when they teach, it's all these problem

1574
01:16:02.920 --> 01:16:08.409 A:middle L:90%
based project uh, Projects that they were working on

1575
01:16:08.409 --> 01:16:10.220 A:middle L:90%
with students. So the professor is able to walk

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01:16:10.220 --> 01:16:12.600 A:middle L:90%
up and down. Each table has a very large

1577
01:16:12.600 --> 01:16:14.729 A:middle L:90%
screen, about a 50, 60 in screen.

1578
01:16:14.739 --> 01:16:16.409 A:middle L:90%
So they can they can share between their laptops.

1579
01:16:16.409 --> 01:16:19.609 A:middle L:90%
Watch the screen work together on building some solution to

1580
01:16:19.609 --> 01:16:23.739 A:middle L:90%
a problem and the professor walks around and assist them

1581
01:16:23.829 --> 01:16:25.130 A:middle L:90%
. So, you know, we look at that

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01:16:25.130 --> 01:16:27.100 A:middle L:90%
as an example of that, that's how, you

1583
01:16:27.100 --> 01:16:29.359 A:middle L:90%
know, learning. It's more engaging and much more

1584
01:16:29.359 --> 01:16:31.399 A:middle L:90%
collaborative and people take away a lot more that way

1585
01:16:31.399 --> 01:16:33.970 A:middle L:90%
today. So we're that's we're looking for ways to

1586
01:16:33.970 --> 01:16:38.159 A:middle L:90%
get involved in just that much more collaborative, engaging

1587
01:16:38.159 --> 01:16:42.649 A:middle L:90%
ways of learning and doing research when you're trying to

1588
01:16:42.649 --> 01:16:49.010 A:middle L:90%
replace your friend of magazines such and you go back

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01:16:49.010 --> 01:16:53.329 A:middle L:90%
and you find that there are metal electronic services,

1590
01:16:53.340 --> 01:16:57.960 A:middle L:90%
electronic versions of the or maybe the publication has gone

1591
01:16:58.329 --> 01:17:01.180 A:middle L:90%
friend, How are you? How do you go

1592
01:17:01.180 --> 01:17:03.689 A:middle L:90%
from there? Well, in a case like that

1593
01:17:03.689 --> 01:17:05.390 A:middle L:90%
, I mean, we keep the materials, there's

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01:17:05.399 --> 01:17:08.189 A:middle L:90%
there's, you know, there's no doubt, especially

1595
01:17:08.189 --> 01:17:10.670 A:middle L:90%
if they're of use on our campus there. And

1596
01:17:10.670 --> 01:17:12.340 A:middle L:90%
there are cases where there are things that are out

1597
01:17:12.340 --> 01:17:14.579 A:middle L:90%
of print that they may not be digitized yet may

1598
01:17:14.579 --> 01:17:15.960 A:middle L:90%
not be available. Um, some of those kinds

1599
01:17:15.960 --> 01:17:19.670 A:middle L:90%
of materials we're digitizing, uh, especially stuff that's

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01:17:19.670 --> 01:17:21.319 A:middle L:90%
in the public domain. I mean, things that

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01:17:21.319 --> 01:17:24.789 A:middle L:90%
are copyrighted still, you know, we can digitize

1602
01:17:24.789 --> 01:17:27.630 A:middle L:90%
what we can't make available. So we're actually doing

1603
01:17:27.630 --> 01:17:30.319 A:middle L:90%
a lot of work right now with Virginia's Cooperative Extension

1604
01:17:30.329 --> 01:17:33.470 A:middle L:90%
Service. A lot of older reports that they have

1605
01:17:33.470 --> 01:17:35.060 A:middle L:90%
that we're, you know, we're scanning, we

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01:17:35.060 --> 01:17:38.319 A:middle L:90%
have thousands and thousands of those and we're, you

1607
01:17:38.319 --> 01:17:39.630 A:middle L:90%
know, we're the land grant, one of one

1608
01:17:39.630 --> 01:17:43.140 A:middle L:90%
of the major land grant campuses in Virginia. So

1609
01:17:43.140 --> 01:17:44.619 A:middle L:90%
we have a lot of that material. It's mostly

1610
01:17:44.619 --> 01:17:46.350 A:middle L:90%
either us or the State Library and Archives has it

1611
01:17:46.529 --> 01:17:49.470 A:middle L:90%
. So it's an example of material that's not easy

1612
01:17:49.470 --> 01:17:53.760 A:middle L:90%
to find sometimes, but it's in the public domain

1613
01:17:53.760 --> 01:17:55.029 A:middle L:90%
. So it makes a lot of sense to scan

1614
01:17:55.029 --> 01:17:57.109 A:middle L:90%
it and put it out there. But it is

1615
01:17:57.109 --> 01:17:58.729 A:middle L:90%
when I say multimedia, I mean that's the other

1616
01:17:58.729 --> 01:18:01.000 A:middle L:90%
expression of multimedia. Libraries are going to have print

1617
01:18:01.000 --> 01:18:03.300 A:middle L:90%
collections. We're going to have film collections, we're

1618
01:18:03.300 --> 01:18:05.600 A:middle L:90%
going to have special collections. We're going to have

1619
01:18:05.600 --> 01:18:09.310 A:middle L:90%
a lot of digital information too. But you know

1620
01:18:09.319 --> 01:18:12.250 A:middle L:90%
, it's not gonna all become digital one day.

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Um I think we're always going to have some of

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that. I can remember years ago, you know

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01:18:16.810 --> 01:18:18.670 A:middle L:90%
when I when I was in school learning how to

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01:18:18.680 --> 01:18:20.890 A:middle L:90%
you know, work in libraries and archives and and

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01:18:20.890 --> 01:18:25.750 A:middle L:90%
there's literature in the 1940s about microfilm. Everything's gonna

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01:18:25.750 --> 01:18:27.960 A:middle L:90%
get microfilmed. We won't need this paper anymore.

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01:18:27.960 --> 01:18:30.210 A:middle L:90%
Well, you know, that didn't happen. Thank

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01:18:30.210 --> 01:18:32.689 A:middle L:90%
God. So it's the same thing with you know

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01:18:32.699 --> 01:18:35.029 A:middle L:90%
, there's an awful lot in digital form but still

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01:18:35.029 --> 01:18:38.550 A:middle L:90%
not everything. And some inspector copyright. This is

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01:18:38.550 --> 01:18:42.140 A:middle L:90%
why learning about copyright is really important because you can

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01:18:42.140 --> 01:18:44.000 A:middle L:90%
scan things but there's an awful lot that we as

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01:18:44.000 --> 01:18:46.550 A:middle L:90%
libraries cannot make available to our publics because it's copyrighted

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01:18:46.550 --> 01:18:53.449 A:middle L:90%
still. Yeah, I'm doing a research library.

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01:18:53.460 --> 01:18:55.979 A:middle L:90%
You don't have any form of like a d opposition

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01:18:55.989 --> 01:19:00.069 A:middle L:90%
policies in place because you are starting to do a

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01:19:00.079 --> 01:19:01.500 A:middle L:90%
being project on his own. And I was curious

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01:19:01.500 --> 01:19:03.500 A:middle L:90%
if it was almost as if you have one just

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01:19:03.510 --> 01:19:08.899 A:middle L:90%
kind we do. I can tell you this actually

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01:19:09.100 --> 01:19:11.939 A:middle L:90%
we have a collection management policy and there probably is

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01:19:11.939 --> 01:19:14.350 A:middle L:90%
some language in there. I mean we don't necessarily

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01:19:14.350 --> 01:19:16.159 A:middle L:90%
have a separate de accession in policy. It's just

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01:19:16.170 --> 01:19:20.069 A:middle L:90%
there is language within our collection management policy about that

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01:19:20.079 --> 01:19:24.739 A:middle L:90%
so that we know that we review. It's pretty

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01:19:25.119 --> 01:19:27.970 A:middle L:90%
simple but it just basically says that we reserve the

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01:19:27.970 --> 01:19:33.529 A:middle L:90%
right to review based upon usage based upon shifting discipline

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01:19:33.539 --> 01:19:38.300 A:middle L:90%
, disciplinary interests of the university things of that nature

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01:19:43.319 --> 01:19:45.300 A:middle L:90%
. So that's never an easy thing. But as

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01:19:45.300 --> 01:19:46.149 A:middle L:90%
I said, when it comes to the accession of

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01:19:46.149 --> 01:19:48.470 A:middle L:90%
what we've done mostly in our cases, you know

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01:19:48.470 --> 01:19:51.069 A:middle L:90%
, we we've been spending money on the journal back

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01:19:51.069 --> 01:19:54.840 A:middle L:90%
files and we've been, we have been we don't

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01:19:54.840 --> 01:19:58.319 A:middle L:90%
call it trashing, we call it recycling the recycling

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01:19:58.319 --> 01:20:00.939 A:middle L:90%
office at Virginia. Tech loves us because we're helping

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01:20:00.939 --> 01:20:02.539 A:middle L:90%
them meet their quotas every year. As we are

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01:20:02.539 --> 01:20:04.739 A:middle L:90%
. We are recycling a lot of print journals and

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01:20:04.739 --> 01:20:06.859 A:middle L:90%
we have tried and tried and tried to get libraries

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01:20:06.859 --> 01:20:10.050 A:middle L:90%
to see if they want to take those and nobody

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01:20:10.060 --> 01:20:12.729 A:middle L:90%
, nobody does. We do have a small projects

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01:20:12.729 --> 01:20:15.479 A:middle L:90%
, Some things go to some african nations, but

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01:20:15.479 --> 01:20:17.329 A:middle L:90%
even there there's limitations on what, on what they

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01:20:17.329 --> 01:20:19.340 A:middle L:90%
want. So we do recycle, but we don't

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01:20:19.340 --> 01:20:21.859 A:middle L:90%
do that. We're not really, and for us

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01:20:21.859 --> 01:20:24.510 A:middle L:90%
, we, we kind of adopted this approach is

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01:20:24.510 --> 01:20:26.989 A:middle L:90%
we're not losing content. Were trading the content from

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01:20:26.989 --> 01:20:30.989 A:middle L:90%
the print to the electronic and we're able to rationalize

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01:20:30.989 --> 01:20:33.630 A:middle L:90%
it to as a university with large global aspirations.

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01:20:33.630 --> 01:20:36.670 A:middle L:90%
There are Virginia tech community members all over the world

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01:20:36.680 --> 01:20:38.859 A:middle L:90%
. Um, you know, we have, we

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01:20:38.859 --> 01:20:41.970 A:middle L:90%
have campus centers in Switzerland, the Dominican republic,

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01:20:41.979 --> 01:20:44.960 A:middle L:90%
Egypt building a new one in India. Um,

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01:20:44.970 --> 01:20:45.170 A:middle L:90%
so I'm, you know, I'm pretty fond of

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01:20:45.170 --> 01:20:46.479 A:middle L:90%
mentioning, you know, those are, those are

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01:20:46.479 --> 01:20:48.800 A:middle L:90%
Hokies too, and they need access to the library

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01:20:48.810 --> 01:20:50.630 A:middle L:90%
. And if we, you know, for us

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01:20:50.630 --> 01:20:51.810 A:middle L:90%
, if it's in print, it makes it really

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01:20:51.810 --> 01:20:55.189 A:middle L:90%
difficult for them to, you know, those fields

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01:20:55.199 --> 01:20:57.140 A:middle L:90%
, uh, to use those materials. If it's

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01:20:57.140 --> 01:20:59.020 A:middle L:90%
online, then, you know, they just got

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01:20:59.020 --> 01:21:00.789 A:middle L:90%
to put in their, their idea in their password

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01:21:00.789 --> 01:21:02.460 A:middle L:90%
and boom, they've got it. So I mean

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01:21:02.460 --> 01:21:03.770 A:middle L:90%
, that's part of it too, is, you

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01:21:03.770 --> 01:21:06.170 A:middle L:90%
know, and I worked with my dean's for instance

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01:21:06.170 --> 01:21:09.510 A:middle L:90%
, and I've tried to explain to them that and

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01:21:09.510 --> 01:21:13.539 A:middle L:90%
I know this sounds heretical, but keeping, keeping

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01:21:13.539 --> 01:21:15.270 A:middle L:90%
print material on a shelf in the center of campus

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01:21:15.300 --> 01:21:19.529 A:middle L:90%
that isn't used for decades is the most expensive thing

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01:21:19.539 --> 01:21:23.720 A:middle L:90%
a library can do in terms of information provision.

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01:21:24.609 --> 01:21:26.489 A:middle L:90%
And, you know, when we're dealing with my

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01:21:26.489 --> 01:21:29.140 A:middle L:90%
administrators above me and we're asking for, we're making

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01:21:29.140 --> 01:21:30.340 A:middle L:90%
the arguments for bigger and better budgets every year.

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01:21:30.350 --> 01:21:34.029 A:middle L:90%
But we do that, that's a real problem.

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01:21:34.039 --> 01:21:36.529 A:middle L:90%
That's half the reason why we asked for warehouse space

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01:21:36.529 --> 01:21:40.579 A:middle L:90%
off of campus is to just be more effective and

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01:21:40.579 --> 01:21:43.289 A:middle L:90%
efficient with, with our costs on these things.

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01:21:43.289 --> 01:21:45.010 A:middle L:90%
So we were careful to try to make sure that

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01:21:45.010 --> 01:21:46.789 A:middle L:90%
, we're saying we're still providing that information, we're

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01:21:46.789 --> 01:21:49.069 A:middle L:90%
not getting rid of it. We're just moving to

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01:21:49.069 --> 01:21:53.579 A:middle L:90%
a different model of information provision. But for us

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01:21:53.579 --> 01:21:54.489 A:middle L:90%
, you know, having some of that in the

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01:21:54.489 --> 01:21:58.229 A:middle L:90%
center of campus that isn't really isn't used. Um

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01:21:58.239 --> 01:21:59.579 A:middle L:90%
it might be stuff we need to keep, there

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01:21:59.579 --> 01:22:00.220 A:middle L:90%
might be only 100 libraries in L. C.

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01:22:00.220 --> 01:22:01.609 A:middle L:90%
L. C. Makes us a little nervous,

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01:22:01.609 --> 01:22:03.770 A:middle L:90%
okay we need to keep that but we don't have

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01:22:03.770 --> 01:22:13.310 A:middle L:90%
to keep it in the center of campus. Anything

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01:22:13.310 --> 01:22:20.500 A:middle L:90%
else. Mm We're not, Yeah. Yeah.

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01:22:21.500 --> 01:22:25.739 A:middle L:90%
Yes I could mention really quick that one of our

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01:22:25.739 --> 01:22:28.710 A:middle L:90%
strategies on on books in particular. We we joined

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01:22:28.710 --> 01:22:30.729 A:middle L:90%
when I started three years ago at Virginia Tech pretty

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01:22:30.729 --> 01:22:32.300 A:middle L:90%
quickly. We we became members of the Hottie Trust

1712
01:22:32.310 --> 01:22:35.750 A:middle L:90%
Digital Library at the University of Michigan. They for

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01:22:35.750 --> 01:22:38.560 A:middle L:90%
those of you who don't know what they hold,

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01:22:38.569 --> 01:22:42.430 A:middle L:90%
all of the books that google scanned, That that

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01:22:42.430 --> 01:22:45.899 A:middle L:90%
makes the Google makes available. Um the corpus of

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01:22:45.899 --> 01:22:48.699 A:middle L:90%
that material that's in the public domain. So this

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01:22:48.699 --> 01:22:53.829 A:middle L:90%
is material that's roughly older than 1925 or so.

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01:22:54.199 --> 01:22:58.930 A:middle L:90%
It's all open on on the Hottie trusted your library

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01:22:58.939 --> 01:23:00.090 A:middle L:90%
. Now, if you're if you're a paying member

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01:23:00.100 --> 01:23:03.989 A:middle L:90%
of the Hottie trust, you can actually download the

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01:23:03.989 --> 01:23:08.060 A:middle L:90%
google books, scans that are in the public domain

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01:23:08.199 --> 01:23:10.170 A:middle L:90%
. You can't download them. If you're not a

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01:23:10.170 --> 01:23:12.010 A:middle L:90%
member, you can kind of see them in line

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01:23:12.399 --> 01:23:15.569 A:middle L:90%
, on, on on the site. So we

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01:23:15.569 --> 01:23:16.109 A:middle L:90%
thought really one of the best things we could do

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01:23:16.109 --> 01:23:19.460 A:middle L:90%
for our humanists and social scientists on campus and historians

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01:23:19.460 --> 01:23:23.609 A:middle L:90%
of science and engineering was to make that stuff available

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01:23:23.609 --> 01:23:27.130 A:middle L:90%
because there's there's about three million volumes in the Hottie

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01:23:27.130 --> 01:23:29.680 A:middle L:90%
Trust, that's public domain. Well, my library

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01:23:29.680 --> 01:23:31.289 A:middle L:90%
is about 2.6 million volumes, so, and there

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01:23:31.289 --> 01:23:34.510 A:middle L:90%
is some overlap. So we also use that as

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01:23:34.510 --> 01:23:40.840 A:middle L:90%
a preservation scheme. About 40 of Armani graphic material

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01:23:40.850 --> 01:23:43.600 A:middle L:90%
is already scanned and held by the Hottie Trust Digital

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01:23:43.600 --> 01:23:45.949 A:middle L:90%
Library. So they have the google books scans,

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01:23:45.949 --> 01:23:47.409 A:middle L:90%
but they also continue to scan and they take scans

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01:23:47.409 --> 01:23:50.100 A:middle L:90%
from member libraries as well. So we look at

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01:23:50.100 --> 01:23:53.439 A:middle L:90%
that as at least in part that's one of our

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01:23:53.439 --> 01:23:58.600 A:middle L:90%
digital preservation strategies regarding monographs. So that's helped us

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01:23:58.609 --> 01:24:00.409 A:middle L:90%
a lot I think. And and again, here's

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01:24:00.420 --> 01:24:03.819 A:middle L:90%
it's another instructional item. We've had to teach professors

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01:24:03.819 --> 01:24:05.770 A:middle L:90%
and students, you know how to kind of how

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01:24:05.770 --> 01:24:09.270 A:middle L:90%
to log on, how to how to download,

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01:24:09.279 --> 01:24:11.310 A:middle L:90%
understanding their rights, which you can and can't do

1744
01:24:11.310 --> 01:24:13.949 A:middle L:90%
with that digital library. So all those new kinds

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01:24:13.949 --> 01:24:16.710 A:middle L:90%
of things they provide rich instructional work for us to

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01:24:16.710 --> 01:24:19.159 A:middle L:90%
be doing. And we show them there's millions and

1747
01:24:19.159 --> 01:24:21.739 A:middle L:90%
millions of material. They're probably up to about 11

1748
01:24:21.739 --> 01:24:26.279 A:middle L:90%
or 12 million volumes, all told in the Hottie

1749
01:24:26.279 --> 01:24:28.979 A:middle L:90%
Trust. Now, with about three million of that

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01:24:28.979 --> 01:24:32.840 A:middle L:90%
being in the public domain, it's pretty impressive.

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01:24:32.850 --> 01:24:35.960 A:middle L:90%
You via is also a member of that. So

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01:24:35.960 --> 01:24:42.909 A:middle L:90%
the two of us within Virginia are members. So

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01:24:43.289 --> 01:24:45.920 A:middle L:90%
anything else you can listen to me this afternoon after

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01:24:45.920 --> 01:24:47.539 A:middle L:90%
lunch if you really want to again, I can

1755
01:24:47.539 --> 01:24:51.619 A:middle L:90%
drone on some more. All right. Thank you

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.