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Hi everybody, thank you so much for coming.

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Uh It's my honor to introduce this morning Ms. Veliswa

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Tshetsha. She's the research and scholarly communications

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librarian at the Cape Peninsula Peninsula University of Technology

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, the C. P. U. T.

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Um in Cape Town. South Africa, actually in

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the Western Cape because it's got a lot of branches

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. This is our second librarian scholar from in our

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strategic collaboration with C. P. U. T

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. The program has been going now about three years

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. Uh and at present a total of 10 persons

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both here and in South Africa are collaborating on research

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to improve operations at both of our academic libraries.

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Um You the one most of you, I see

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a lot of familiar faces, most of you will

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remember Joanne audiences who was our first visiting uh South

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African librarian scholar um uh Robert Sebek was our first

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uh Virginia tech uh librarian to go down to South

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Africa and he helped him out a lot. We've

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got a also In addition to the police were coming

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here, we've already got another library and going to

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South Africa in February of 2017. Thereabouts. Mr

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Keith Gilbertson who's sitting right over there, stand up

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just a second Keith. So he's gonna go out

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. These are technology development library and they're pretty excited

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about getting Keith down there. They're gonna working hard

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I think. Well we're working for police were hard

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to let me give you a real short bio.

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I don't want to take much time. Uh Police

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Swat Valley and she, sometimes it's called the T

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. V. Is graduated in 2004 from the University

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of the Western Cape, which is one of their

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leading research libraries. She was born and grew up

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in right here. I go village in kobo.

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Okay. In Kabul is in the Eastern Cape.

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It's a Tasha, thank you. I'm trying you

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know, you know me as a, as a

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polyglot, but this is one which I do not

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know. Uh, OSHA is a, is a

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Bantu language closely related to zulu. It's the second

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most spoken language in in South africa. And where

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she's from in tow ball is Doans sweet grass.

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It refers to the sweetgrass found in the area and

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it's a village, it's home to about 6000 persons

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. She'll tell you a little bit more about some

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of her experience growing up there. Um, yeah

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, Russia is a click language and I've really been

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practicing ever since you got here. Uh, It's

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spoken by about 7.6 million people or 18 of the

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South African population, like most Bantu languages and confidently

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chinese. Uh, it's a tonal language. And

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what that means is uh, that uh, if

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you, you can have in the same sequence of

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consonants and valves you can have a different totally different

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meanings when uh that sequence of vowels and consonants are

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said with a rising or falling or a high and

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low intonation so you can get totally different things so

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you better know what you're saying when you try it

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and I don't go anywhere. Uh but I thought

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it was cool. A click language that's pretty neat

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. Um uh Police were also besides Russia speaks english

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extremely well with a nice accent and zulu as well

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. So she's accomplished in the linguistics department as well

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as far as her career goes. She started out

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as a public librarian and volunteer and you know looking

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at her resume you see she went here and there

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and here and there and you can see just this

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total sort of rise in her in her career.

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She at one point became a health and wellness librarian

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and then she became a branch manager of C.

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P. U. T. She was a faculty

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library and for applied sciences and she's recently been appointed

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to her current position as research and scholarly uh communication

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library. So I'll stop talking and and give the

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microphone over to police. Well so would you like

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to set this up and you can have a holder

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to put a it was working pretty well up here

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. Right. Yeah. Okay. However yeah.

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Good morning everybody. How are you this morning?

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Thank you so much. Let me start with paul

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from you know communication coming here preparations until today and

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also the warm welcome I've received from everybody in this

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room. Thank you very much and I will take

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you through you know some of the south African perspectives

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. But my presentation my name is very slow in

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Short valley or you can call me V. And

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this is just a brief outline of the aspect that

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I'm going to touch on, which is my background

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. And also look at the South African population,

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South African enrollment. And so what brings me here

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briefly, I will touch on that and the current

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project that we're working on at deputy. I hope

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you can hear me okay, Go to one.

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Okay, good. Also touch on the South African

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movement, especially student protest that is taking place down

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there. And I think paul, you've already opened

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this slide while you have introducing me and I have

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arrived here on the 15th of october in the afternoon

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and that is from Cape Town to Johannesburg and from

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Johannesburg via Ghana then up into the sea was shooting

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That is 22 hours five minutes sitting all the way

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from. Okay, All right. And I didn't

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skip any slide. Alright, let's look at some

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of the perspective in South Africa. We have public

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holidays in South Africa and these are the days that

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were formed due to the movements that took place in

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South Africa. And I think most of you will

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be familiar with the first of january which is a

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new year. I'm not sure you celebrated here.

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We have the 21st of March which is human rights

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day and when people were celebrating the rights to education

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, to freedom of speech and many other rights and

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also to live and also security Help issues as well

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. Also we have a good Friday that we celebrate

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which is just before the Easter Sunday and also 27

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April, which is a freedom day when South Africa

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received its independence and then the first of may is

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workers there. So workers don't go to work,

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please stay at home. and then the June 16

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which is also student uh protesting related event. Also

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we celebrate and honor that day and also ninth of

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august, its national women's Day when women marched to

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parliament and they were against uh passed laws that were

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laid by current government that day. And 27 September

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is a heritage day. You celebrate our culture,

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different languages, different out foods, outfits, sorry

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, and uh the uniqueness and being human beings.

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So that is usually a big event and many departments

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or institutions, they celebrate it in different styles and

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we cook different meals and we taste each other's food

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and we just enjoy ourselves in those events. And

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then 16 December, which is a day of reconciliation

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, 25th, which is Christmas and the boxing day

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. So these are the public holidays out of 365

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days in a year calendar that we have. We

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have 11 official languages. I'm not sure if there's

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any, oh you can speak English of course besides

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English. Is there any that you can speak from

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their Afrikaans? We have devil, Northern Soto Swazi

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. So um, that's one now, the other

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is they call it sometimes she agenda but often say

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vendor and closer, which is mine paul has tried

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to announce pronouncer and then zulu. Those are close

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related languages. All right. I was born in

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lower New Law, which is a rural area in

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a novel which is my hometown in the Eastern Cape

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of South Africa And it's a distance of about 11

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hours, 10 minutes from my hometown to Cape Town

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and that is 1,089.9 km. It's a long drive

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, but we don't mind traveling between, you know

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provinces. Alright. I belong to a closer or

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born to ethnic group of the southern African mainly found

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in the Eastern Cape. And as Paul mentioned earlier

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, 6.477.6 million people speak my language. So we

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are a country on our own And I process a

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click language. I will just take you to some

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of the basics of my language which is just three

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basic clicks. And the name Khosa comes from a

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legendary leader, King casa and most of these ethnic

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groups they had kings. So that's how we trace

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uh you know, background. So it actually determines

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where we belong. All right. These are the

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three basic tricks that I'm just gonna sort of teach

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you on today just to practice at least to say

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okay I've learned that click. All right. We

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have C. For dental clicks in english we say

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see but in my language it is please you know

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try that you get that's excellent. And then we

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have X. For lateral clicks in pasta. It

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is just like when you say hasta. Yes.

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So your tongue is more like lateral. And then

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we have two for posts of yola clicks which is

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in this case your tongue will be sort of pushed

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backwards and you will come up with I think in

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your legs. So those are the basics. Yeah

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. Some find it difficult but I must say uh

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speaking people the most influential people. Given that we

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have 7.6 million people speaking our language and yeah.

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All right. My family I've got my dad and

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also my late mom with 13 grandchildren. We are

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56 sisters, sorry. And my late brother.

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So we are a big family. And in terms

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of education I think paul has given you sort of

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an overview of my education background, starting with a

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metric, we call it metric that time uh in

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in Eastern Cape or standard 10 of grade 12.

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and also I started at UW, 1997 2000 I

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completed my people degree, which is librarian ship.

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Then uh, 2000 and four I completed honors the

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green librarian ship. Currently busy with my masters.

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And you can see also the gap between the years

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. So I took a break trying to expose myself

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to sort of gaining experience in the library profession.

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All right, This is my work experience. You

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will also notice during those years I've been trying to

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gain experience in library shit because I was fresh from

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school and 98 it was in service training 99 until

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2000 and one. I was at U W.

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C. And within U. W. C.

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I was between units. You can see the other

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one is C. S. H. E.

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Which is the Center for the Studies of Higher Education

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. It was a brand new center that was established

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. We started it from scratch and you W.

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collaborate and come up with a poster. So you

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mostly librarians. So they were asked or tasked to

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reports and generated that poster and Joanne presented that poster

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which we presented to the layers conference. Alright,

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South African population. We are a big population of

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986,000 559 students. Not currently this is 2013 In

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terms of public and private. These are the indicators

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then the paper is health and wellness faculty. And

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was working on before I moved to this post and

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the last red one is informatics and design. All

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have research centers and units within the university. All

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have 1000, we had 1,986 staff members last year

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staff members employed. But we are a big team

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here. Alright, What brings me here? Is

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that Super ut libraries goals are aligned to those of

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the university then, which is to support the open

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access publishing and also become the publishing agent or perhaps

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and also steak uh store warehouses of the published work

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, which is the work that is produced by the

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universities. We should support that. And also set

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up a library based publishing service or unit, which

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is similar to what you have already uh VT and

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also improved access to superiority research output, which is

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one of the huge project that we're currently working on

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South African universities that also having presses and we would

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like to follow those trends as well. And your

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city is one of them, you city vets University

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of South Africa Stellenbosch University also is leading there also

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in terms of general publishing. We've also noticed that

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libraries now moving away from, you know, old

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ways of doing things into new trends in terms of

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publishing. And this is the list of, for

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and open a general publishing system that they have.

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And also we found that VT is actually a place

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where I could come and also learn the best practice

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from here in the exchange program between C p U

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. T and Virginia. So these are the identified

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areas which are really of interest to us and which

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will put us on the map in terms of research

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support in the university and I'm not going to read

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through them. I think they are clear to everybody

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and the slide will appreciate as well. Okay.

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we do have the institutional repository also known as Digital

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knowledge. We have the faculty collection in the repository

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and also communities and the open educational resources also available

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and organized according to communities as well. We're also

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hosting the journals in the platform. Which is not

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a good platform though because we cannot host a journal

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in a repository. So one of the things that

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I've already learned from meeting is it N yes,

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yes, I've learned a lot from here as well

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is you know those unique platforms where you can host

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your general and it will also have a better profile

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than hosting it in the repository. We have two

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journals that we have to actually host a beauty.

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it is also in the process of being integrated into

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a national hotel which is South African National electronic thesis

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and dissertation platform. And we're currently working on a

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data management plan that we have to sort of bring

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into our researchers in terms of managing their data in

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the process of research. Also developing the research data

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management platform for our researchers. So we have a

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developer was currently busy with that at the moment and

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we've tried to test it and piloted to some of

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the faculties. Yes, there were areas that needed

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to be actually looked at and sort of correspond with

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what they need also profile. Sorry, author profile

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, ID's orchid. And also that's another project that

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we're working on in terms of integrating, you know

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, the repository into the market platforms so that we

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can quickly pull or import, you know, the

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data or works from market to the repository. And

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also other projects include updating the research support website or

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page and also the current project that we have.

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It's a big project is based on maximizing the visibility

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and impact of research output and connect it with relevant

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systems which is with a publisher system funders Scopus,

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which is a citation analysis tool as well as also

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ranking or world ranking systems as well. So the

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idea or the purpose for the project project is actually

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aligned to that. And also we encourage our researchers

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to submit their work in the institutional repository so that

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it can be sort of a similar process than it

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is not because the current practice now is that uh

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researchers don't submit the work in the repository. So

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we also encourage them, you know, there are

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various steps that they can adopt to maximize the research

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output. But out of those processes or steps we

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encourage and promote the institutional repository as well. Alright

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, the reason why also we promote the institutional repository

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to our researchers as much as they ask us.

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Do we really have to use the repository? We

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are happy with our research Gates, our linkedin and

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google scholars. This is how we also motivate,

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showing how this or how the repository works with other

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systems. Which is it allows other systems to be

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easily quickly integrated into it and which is in this

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case they can harvest meta data from our repository.

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Also, in terms of ranking, it's much more

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easier to actually have a state a from the repository

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also scope us terms of analyzing the, you know

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, the research output, the usage and also the

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tracking, you know, the impact. Also looking

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at visual impact of the research output of the CPT

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research. And also integrated with Pocket Also South African

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National Electronic thesis and dissertations. They also harvest data

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from institutional repositories and they can also analyzed based on

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the funding requirements as well. All right. This

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is just also based on the project that we're working

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on. It's sort of a simple template that guide

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us in terms of the key focus areas of what

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need to happen in the project with. In this

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case we have a market determine if the author has

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an orchid. I'd are there any documents in the

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market platform? And then we will also look at

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what is called P. O. P, which

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is publisher parish, which is a free software,

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very powerful harvesting data from google scholar and other platforms

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. And we will check against that. We also

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have scoopers. We check on scoopers is the autumn

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scoopers will also check on the report in the repository

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. So we'll see the inconsistency between these systems and

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that's where we start the conversation with authors and also

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show the benefits of doing this project. And also

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we do check research Gate and that is where we

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found that they use that platform and also ask for

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their cities if they don't have any websites or pages

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. So if you notice in this template, it

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has the before and after cleanup which is the work

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as it is and then after you've sort of trained

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and guided the author in terms of cleaning up and

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making sure the work is available across all platforms.

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Then how is the situation? Any improvements in terms

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of the number of documents, age index and many

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other aspects that are related to the research. And

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this is just an illustrative example. I'm sorry it's

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so small. In terms of the fund you won't

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be able to see this is the author with the

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name Sunni Helling and before she was Sunni bought her

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. And so the difference between the two is she

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was single and she was married and in between these

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it means she was performing meaning she was a researcher

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. She produced paper. So now how do we

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merge that? So after the cleanup you will notice

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that the author has an orchid I. D.

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And the number of documents have improved. Also the

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number of citations and age index has improved. But

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the PowerPoint presentation will be shared. You can have

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a closer look. And sometimes they often ask us

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to why scorpius is important because when we promote this

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we also encourage them that it will benefit also in

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terms of a world ranking and international ranking that your

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work results resides in the institutional repository. So these

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are the areas that we touch or to show that

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scope has provide people metric data for Organisations, for

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institutions. And if I sort of take it down

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to Africa where we have 486 um affiliation and then

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narrow it down to South Africa which is 453 and

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down to Western Cape which is 33. So those

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are the indicators by scoopers and through that that's where

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we actually reflect in fact indicate to them where they

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are in sort of generator reports from those. All

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right. They often ask do ranking matter? Do

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we have to worry about frankly? And yes,

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of course we have to because students, they always

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select the best, you know, institution based on

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00:29:18.390 --> 00:29:22.539 A:middle L:90%
its reputation. They won't just go to any university

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00:29:22.539 --> 00:29:25.940 A:middle L:90%
does it? That it's not well known. Also

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00:29:25.940 --> 00:29:29.869 A:middle L:90%
, metrics are used by university management in terms of

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funding and other areas policymakers. They need metrics.

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Also research funders, government industries people are metric data

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00:29:38.819 --> 00:29:41.019 A:middle L:90%
and ranking agencies. They need that date. That

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evidence that where we're putting our funds, we can

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see the outcome. So that's another area that we

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used to motivate in the international collaboration and citation impact

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00:29:52.140 --> 00:29:56.170 A:middle L:90%
. That's another indicator. And this reminds me of

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one of the authors actually that stepped forward when they

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were applying for ad hominem promotion. In other words

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when they want to be promoted as professors as the

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deans and we had to sort of do the cleanup

461
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project and it came to this level as well.

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So that actually really helped. How far are we

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with this project? Good question project is on hold

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due to free education student movement that is happening every

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speaking here. There are South african movements that took

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place Before. Uh this is just a brief history

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. I won't dwell much on that, but just

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to highlight on what happened 1948, there was a

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ruling party which is a national party that actually came

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with laws policies that were governing that time sort of

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based on separated Nous people were grouped according to races

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and colors and also women were divided from men,

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which is called migrant labor system and uh they were

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not allowed to visit, you know, men and

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00:31:04.259 --> 00:31:07.289 A:middle L:90%
men were in the minds working in the mines and

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the mothers or women working at home. Alright 1958

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and there was a black South African. It's broke

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away. So in other words there was a leading

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uh political organization which is a. n. c

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. But then it broke up due to the movement

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based on the laws and policies by the ruling government

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00:31:30.140 --> 00:31:33.829 A:middle L:90%
. So this pain africanist congress, which is known

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as P. S. Came up, but even

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00:31:36.259 --> 00:31:38.319 A:middle L:90%
though they split it again, they sort of Came

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together in 1962, Blend, you know, on

486
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:47.039 A:middle L:90%
demonstrations against the pass laws which is the passport,

487
00:31:47.049 --> 00:31:48.700 A:middle L:90%
not sure you're familiar with that. And there were

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laws that came as a result of the ruling government

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, that citizens must have passports. If you don't

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have a passport, you cannot go to urban areas

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, you cannot go across to other countries, You

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must have a passport. So it was actually a

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restricting movement, you know, from black people because

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they didn't have, you know, the passports.

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I mean they were living poor life in rural areas

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00:32:10.190 --> 00:32:14.859 A:middle L:90%
. So those who are sort of movements and uh

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events that took place during that time in 1916,

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00:32:20.460 --> 00:32:22.480 A:middle L:90%
uh P. A. C. Leader robert,

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00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:25.200 A:middle L:90%
so vocal who led a large group Sort of marching

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00:32:25.210 --> 00:32:30.339 A:middle L:90%
against those passed laws due to that movement, 69

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00:32:30.349 --> 00:32:32.079 A:middle L:90%
people died. I mean, that's a lot of

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people that died in, you know, so that

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is What happened with in 1960s. Well, uh

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the South African nationalist government bend the A. N

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. C. So A. N. C.

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Was a very uh sort of uh most black people

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were under A. N. C. And than

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the other ruling party which is a national party which

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was white dominated. So, nelson or late nelson

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Mandela led the A. N. C. That

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time. It was banned in 1960 and Mandela was

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uh sentenced into imprisonment For 27 years. And then

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during that process of time In June 1976, students

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started rioting again. Which is they were protesting,

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00:33:23.329 --> 00:33:27.170 A:middle L:90%
you know, against, you know, Afrikaans being

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used as a medium of instructions in school, 1989

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00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:35.549 A:middle L:90%
. Toyota was the prime minister since 1978, was

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forced to leave the office, instructed by um in

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fact, it was replaced by F. W.

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De Klerk that time who then pledged for End of

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Apartheid in 1990. So things were trying to get

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00:33:51.289 --> 00:33:53.539 A:middle L:90%
back to normal now. And he also released our

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00:33:53.549 --> 00:33:58.900 A:middle L:90%
late President nelson Mandela, Which is why in 1994

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00:33:58.900 --> 00:34:01.279 A:middle L:90%
we were so excited when we were voting. It

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00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:05.440 A:middle L:90%
was national elections. We were so excited. We're

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00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:12.139 A:middle L:90%
singing the same sound of this happy and until Today

527
00:34:12.150 --> 00:34:14.780 A:middle L:90%
. All right. The student movement, which is

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the movement that took place during that time, which

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is 1976. It started with African student movement and

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00:34:22.070 --> 00:34:25.960 A:middle L:90%
that was renamed after. So as South African Student

531
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Movement. And then what happened during that time,

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00:34:30.940 --> 00:34:37.000 A:middle L:90%
students were sort of boycotting and they were fighting with

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00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:40.679 A:middle L:90%
the police and it was a chaos and they were

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00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:45.179 A:middle L:90%
totally against what the so called Bantu education and being

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00:34:45.179 --> 00:34:49.489 A:middle L:90%
forced to learn the language that they don't want,

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00:34:49.489 --> 00:34:53.940 A:middle L:90%
which is Africans. And also hence we have June

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16 which we honor and commemorate commemorate in South Africa

538
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:01.750 A:middle L:90%
. You will also notice also, even if you

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00:35:01.750 --> 00:35:07.989 A:middle L:90%
do a search about South African freedom movement or Heritages

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00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:12.219 A:middle L:90%
, you will notice that we honor these movements so

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00:35:12.219 --> 00:35:15.929 A:middle L:90%
that the younger generation can find it and use it

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00:35:15.940 --> 00:35:20.250 A:middle L:90%
. So we do have Freedom Park in Pretoria.

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00:35:20.940 --> 00:35:23.960 A:middle L:90%
We also have the museum in Devon, Hector Peterson

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And the small boy who was killed in the June

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00:35:28.980 --> 00:35:32.389 A:middle L:90%
16 riot. And we also have the freedom route

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00:35:32.389 --> 00:35:35.989 A:middle L:90%
in there. I just took few of those.

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00:35:36.019 --> 00:35:39.949 A:middle L:90%
I didn't take everybody and currently we still have student

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00:35:39.949 --> 00:35:43.989 A:middle L:90%
movement. So that was then now, Which is

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00:35:43.989 --> 00:35:46.969 A:middle L:90%
last year 2015, which is hashtag fees must fall

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00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:52.670 A:middle L:90%
. I studied in october 2015, University of the

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vet battlefront, which is based in Central Johannesburg and

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00:35:58.670 --> 00:36:05.929 A:middle L:90%
then other universities like you city, Pretoria roads universities

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00:36:05.989 --> 00:36:09.989 A:middle L:90%
and many other universities also followed up and joined that

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00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:14.130 A:middle L:90%
group. There was a very powerful network between these

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00:36:14.130 --> 00:36:15.610 A:middle L:90%
students. All right. These are some of the

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00:36:15.610 --> 00:36:21.119 A:middle L:90%
sensitive images of the students who uh we will go

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00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:22.780 A:middle L:90%
and protesting. You can see it's crowds, they

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00:36:22.780 --> 00:36:25.360 A:middle L:90%
were singing and shouting and, you know, beating

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00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:29.829 A:middle L:90%
the drums and showing, you know, the anger

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00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:35.079 A:middle L:90%
against what is happening and also burning and throwing bombs

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00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:37.840 A:middle L:90%
and, you know, vandalizing and destroying what is

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00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:40.699 A:middle L:90%
available so that somebody can listen to them. These

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00:36:40.699 --> 00:36:44.869 A:middle L:90%
are some of the sensitive images, even our at

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main building where they're dealing with cash, you know

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00:36:46.619 --> 00:36:50.750 A:middle L:90%
, where students pay cash, they burned everything,

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even the money coins and notes band, right?

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00:36:54.860 --> 00:36:58.739 A:middle L:90%
We're also some of the buildings in the university,

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00:36:58.739 --> 00:37:00.239 A:middle L:90%
which is student financial aid, you can see the

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roof there and other venues or dedicated spaces. They

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00:37:05.429 --> 00:37:09.110 A:middle L:90%
they were banned into issues in there. Also fires

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00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:12.050 A:middle L:90%
, buses were bent. You know, those are

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the shuttles that they use to travel between campuses.

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00:37:15.179 --> 00:37:21.070 A:middle L:90%
They just burned everything. And these are the university

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00:37:21.070 --> 00:37:28.369 A:middle L:90%
class that they smashed fighting with the security guards trying

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00:37:28.369 --> 00:37:31.969 A:middle L:90%
to block everybody to enter the university. All right

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00:37:31.969 --> 00:37:37.369 A:middle L:90%
. So now we sort of come to a stage

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00:37:37.369 --> 00:37:40.519 A:middle L:90%
where we thought it ended. Yeah, everybody was

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00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:45.369 A:middle L:90%
happy. Everything was a piece because apparently A government

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announced that there would be no fee or fees increase

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00:37:50.280 --> 00:37:52.809 A:middle L:90%
in 2016. They were so happy and things came

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back to normal. And also once again, protests

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started again this year as of August 2016. And

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after the South African Minister has announced that there would

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be sort of a kept off eight increase in 2017

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00:38:10.769 --> 00:38:14.199 A:middle L:90%
, which is next year. And then again it

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00:38:14.199 --> 00:38:17.480 A:middle L:90%
started. And um, also higher education institutions were

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00:38:17.489 --> 00:38:22.969 A:middle L:90%
given the sort of the um freedom to indicate how

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00:38:22.969 --> 00:38:27.320 A:middle L:90%
much will they charge next year. And the continuous

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00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:30.900 A:middle L:90%
mass meetings happening as I speak in terms of making

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00:38:30.900 --> 00:38:37.340 A:middle L:90%
arrangement and planning and organizing for 2017. And also

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00:38:37.340 --> 00:38:43.900 A:middle L:90%
latest news from my university has indicated via email was

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00:38:43.909 --> 00:38:47.639 A:middle L:90%
that as from friday which is tomorrow classes and work

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00:38:47.650 --> 00:38:51.730 A:middle L:90%
or workers should come back and work will resume as

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normal. But we do not know if they're gonna

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00:38:53.849 --> 00:38:59.900 A:middle L:90%
come back and disrupt what is blend. All right

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00:38:59.909 --> 00:39:00.840 A:middle L:90%
. So what next? What's the future like?

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00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:06.610 A:middle L:90%
This is my view of my opinion that perhaps a

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00:39:06.610 --> 00:39:12.599 A:middle L:90%
multidisciplinary approach should be adopted where government actually engage all

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00:39:12.599 --> 00:39:17.909 A:middle L:90%
relevant stakeholders into this uh into these mass media or

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00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:24.159 A:middle L:90%
conversations and also host regular meetings and sort of continuous

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00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:28.949 A:middle L:90%
debates in this issue. Otherwise, nothing will happen

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00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:31.829 A:middle L:90%
if there's no, you know, movement from sort

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00:39:31.829 --> 00:39:36.389 A:middle L:90%
of coming with a solution or so higher education institutions

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00:39:36.389 --> 00:39:38.510 A:middle L:90%
. I think personally, they should also empower students

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00:39:38.510 --> 00:39:43.989 A:middle L:90%
when it comes to social problems, injustice and inequality

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00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:49.440 A:middle L:90%
because we come from different backgrounds for no money,

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00:39:49.449 --> 00:39:52.340 A:middle L:90%
Nothing. So if we empower our students with those

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00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:57.840 A:middle L:90%
, I think it will bring change and further,

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00:39:58.420 --> 00:40:01.829 A:middle L:90%
you know, developments can also come up from that

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00:40:02.710 --> 00:40:06.880 A:middle L:90%
. Thank you very much. I hope you've enjoyed

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and I'm willing to accept questions if you have any

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. And thank you. Okay, while still waiting

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00:40:22.130 --> 00:40:25.199 A:middle L:90%
for questions. Maybe I can open my heritage event

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. In fact, it's just heritage images. All

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00:40:29.039 --> 00:40:30.219 A:middle L:90%
right. No problem. So I'm ready for the

616
00:40:30.219 --> 00:40:45.559 A:middle L:90%
questions. Okay. These are just the pictures.

617
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I'm not going to talk much on the on this

618
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. Oh, somebody has a question. Thank you

619
00:40:52.530 --> 00:40:54.099 A:middle L:90%
very much. That was very interesting. I'm interested

620
00:40:54.099 --> 00:40:58.210 A:middle L:90%
in the size of your E T. V.

621
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And repository collections. How many items do you have

622
00:41:02.389 --> 00:41:07.599 A:middle L:90%
in there? And what percentage? Okay, potential

623
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:12.030 A:middle L:90%
contact. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I think

624
00:41:12.030 --> 00:41:15.250 A:middle L:90%
the last time I checked actually I think was probably

625
00:41:15.260 --> 00:41:20.079 A:middle L:90%
earlier this year. We don't have that much actually

626
00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:24.199 A:middle L:90%
. We had a problem where we had in fact

627
00:41:24.210 --> 00:41:29.440 A:middle L:90%
our server crashed where we lost all our data and

628
00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:31.840 A:middle L:90%
we have to start from scratch. And I think

629
00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:36.420 A:middle L:90%
the last meeting that I had with my supervisor I

630
00:41:36.420 --> 00:41:37.880 A:middle L:90%
think I'll have to give you the exact or accurate

631
00:41:37.889 --> 00:41:43.329 A:middle L:90%
figures from that report Of all you know in terms

632
00:41:43.329 --> 00:41:46.550 A:middle L:90%
of how many thesis and dissertations and the journal articles

633
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:50.460 A:middle L:90%
and other publications. Yes. But I think it

634
00:41:50.460 --> 00:41:54.300 A:middle L:90%
was at 8000 300 and some odd publications that we

635
00:41:54.300 --> 00:42:02.320 A:middle L:90%
have including it's just the entire collection. What trying

636
00:42:02.699 --> 00:42:07.309 A:middle L:90%
uh huh increase in the cost of education. Why

637
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:12.389 A:middle L:90%
why what makes the fees go up here? Thank

638
00:42:12.389 --> 00:42:16.969 A:middle L:90%
you very I would say the rand value. Actually

639
00:42:16.969 --> 00:42:22.670 A:middle L:90%
that's another you. Sure And also the population.

640
00:42:22.670 --> 00:42:28.119 A:middle L:90%
I think it's increasing dramatically And other areas that need

641
00:42:28.130 --> 00:42:31.889 A:middle L:90%
or attention. So financially so I think that's why

642
00:42:31.900 --> 00:42:37.130 A:middle L:90%
we have and many others that didn't include, does

643
00:42:37.139 --> 00:42:40.860 A:middle L:90%
the university receive a lot of government subsidy? Is

644
00:42:40.860 --> 00:42:46.630 A:middle L:90%
it government? So for example, Virginia Tech receives

645
00:42:46.630 --> 00:42:51.159 A:middle L:90%
some. Yes. All of our money comes from

646
00:42:52.300 --> 00:42:52.969 A:middle L:90%
. Yes. Yes, we do. We do

647
00:42:52.969 --> 00:42:57.550 A:middle L:90%
have a subsidy from the government and also other funds

648
00:42:57.550 --> 00:43:00.789 A:middle L:90%
that are generated within the university. Actually, we

649
00:43:00.789 --> 00:43:06.460 A:middle L:90%
also have also financial aid support for performing students as

650
00:43:06.460 --> 00:43:10.590 A:middle L:90%
well. We also have the national student fund that

651
00:43:10.590 --> 00:43:16.059 A:middle L:90%
also assist students with fees, but it seems as

652
00:43:16.059 --> 00:43:19.239 A:middle L:90%
if they don't want that because they have to pay

653
00:43:19.239 --> 00:43:22.010 A:middle L:90%
it back. But yes, we do have subsidies

654
00:43:22.900 --> 00:43:28.590 A:middle L:90%
. You say there's increases what is now a typical

655
00:43:28.599 --> 00:43:35.739 A:middle L:90%
fee for a student matriculating this semester? How much

656
00:43:35.750 --> 00:43:38.289 A:middle L:90%
are they paying? Approximate. I'll take one good

657
00:43:38.289 --> 00:43:44.320 A:middle L:90%
example of a student saying the residencies plus tuition plus

658
00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:50.110 A:middle L:90%
registration. That student was going about 64,000, Rand

659
00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:55.710 A:middle L:90%
64 64,000 and the exchange rate is about 15 rand

660
00:43:59.139 --> 00:44:09.309 A:middle L:90%
-15 figure. If you're doing thinking about doing journals

661
00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:13.760 A:middle L:90%
publishing more journals, do you with all the languages

662
00:44:13.769 --> 00:44:16.510 A:middle L:90%
that are, do you have to be able to

663
00:44:16.510 --> 00:44:22.719 A:middle L:90%
handle multiple languages? Well, not really, not

664
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:25.260 A:middle L:90%
really. It's mainly english when it comes to languages

665
00:44:25.260 --> 00:44:30.130 A:middle L:90%
. It's mainly at foundation level where we have an

666
00:44:30.130 --> 00:44:35.429 A:middle L:90%
extended curriculum program where we expose our students into different

667
00:44:35.429 --> 00:44:38.219 A:middle L:90%
languages, but as they move higher than its english

668
00:44:38.789 --> 00:44:43.440 A:middle L:90%
. But our publications, it will mean perhaps that

669
00:44:43.449 --> 00:44:46.030 A:middle L:90%
particular department has sort of in terms of supporting,

670
00:44:46.039 --> 00:44:52.780 A:middle L:90%
you know, those uh extended the curriculum will develop

671
00:44:52.590 --> 00:44:55.329 A:middle L:90%
tools that will support those group of which we do

672
00:44:55.329 --> 00:45:00.469 A:middle L:90%
have a language committee that looks at those particular aspects

673
00:45:00.469 --> 00:45:05.380 A:middle L:90%
where they can design guides in different languages which is

674
00:45:05.389 --> 00:45:07.809 A:middle L:90%
English, Afrikaans, closer and other languages as well

675
00:45:08.389 --> 00:45:10.809 A:middle L:90%
. But in terms of journals it's just pure english

676
00:45:13.789 --> 00:45:15.059 A:middle L:90%
. So as you're growing up in a rural area

677
00:45:15.070 --> 00:45:19.400 A:middle L:90%
, were you able to attend all levels of elementary

678
00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:22.260 A:middle L:90%
and high school in your account and your fire?

679
00:45:22.260 --> 00:45:25.039 A:middle L:90%
Did you have to towards some you got older when

680
00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:27.579 A:middle L:90%
I was young? Yes. When I was doing

681
00:45:27.579 --> 00:45:30.780 A:middle L:90%
my primary junior secondary, I was at home.

682
00:45:30.789 --> 00:45:34.510 A:middle L:90%
Then when I was in high school I was traveling

683
00:45:34.889 --> 00:45:40.920 A:middle L:90%
you know distance maybe from here to where I stay

684
00:45:40.929 --> 00:45:44.429 A:middle L:90%
, which is maybe jane gina can help me.

685
00:45:44.440 --> 00:45:45.710 A:middle L:90%
Yeah, it is, yeah, it was not

686
00:45:45.710 --> 00:45:47.840 A:middle L:90%
too far but for me to travel every day it

687
00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:52.210 A:middle L:90%
was also during stormy seasons. It was not good

688
00:45:52.590 --> 00:45:53.599 A:middle L:90%
. And then I have to travel to the Western

689
00:45:53.599 --> 00:46:00.250 A:middle L:90%
Cape for higher education institution in years. But I

690
00:46:00.250 --> 00:46:02.519 A:middle L:90%
really enjoyed it. But it was a big difference

691
00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:07.480 A:middle L:90%
from rural to Cape Town I must say because we

692
00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:10.559 A:middle L:90%
didn't have electricity. And here I come to Cape

693
00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:15.179 A:middle L:90%
Town it's beautiful. The mother city everything is in

694
00:46:15.179 --> 00:46:20.300 A:middle L:90%
place and it was like a lost girl in town

695
00:46:20.309 --> 00:46:22.019 A:middle L:90%
but then I found my fit in there. I

696
00:46:22.019 --> 00:46:24.550 A:middle L:90%
really enjoyed it. Yeah. We I came my

697
00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:30.300 A:middle L:90%
background actual sense from from where I'm from. We

698
00:46:30.300 --> 00:46:32.360 A:middle L:90%
didn't have electricity. It's only just before the World

699
00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:36.199 A:middle L:90%
Cup when somebody started to listen to us and say

700
00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:38.519 A:middle L:90%
okay now we can bring change and but it was

701
00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:42.909 A:middle L:90%
not easy. It was through you know movements before

702
00:46:42.909 --> 00:46:49.409 A:middle L:90%
it came to place. Yeah. Oh okay.

703
00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:53.230 A:middle L:90%
I'm trying to understand the student protests and is it

704
00:46:53.239 --> 00:46:57.880 A:middle L:90%
that probably was very difficult just with the prices costs

705
00:46:57.889 --> 00:47:00.809 A:middle L:90%
being what they were for students to come, how

706
00:47:00.809 --> 00:47:02.780 A:middle L:90%
a burden on their families and so they just can't

707
00:47:02.780 --> 00:47:06.639 A:middle L:90%
afford to pay anymore. Is that? And then

708
00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:08.929 A:middle L:90%
it looks now with all the destruction of the buildings

709
00:47:08.929 --> 00:47:10.670 A:middle L:90%
and all that, which is going to cost more

710
00:47:10.670 --> 00:47:16.449 A:middle L:90%
money to fix it. What's I get to your

711
00:47:16.449 --> 00:47:22.309 A:middle L:90%
question? Yes. Uh, students come from different

712
00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:25.289 A:middle L:90%
backgrounds, like I've mentioned, South Africa's diverse,

713
00:47:25.289 --> 00:47:30.260 A:middle L:90%
many languages, Yes. Some are really poor,

714
00:47:30.269 --> 00:47:32.610 A:middle L:90%
Some are being financed by one parent, for example

715
00:47:32.619 --> 00:47:36.079 A:middle L:90%
, or some don't even have parents, but they

716
00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:39.949 A:middle L:90%
have potential. In other words, they can qualify

717
00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:43.650 A:middle L:90%
. They really good performing students, but it's such

718
00:47:43.650 --> 00:47:47.280 A:middle L:90%
that they do not have money to actually pay for

719
00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:52.829 A:middle L:90%
the fees. And in some cases it's a case

720
00:47:52.840 --> 00:48:00.070 A:middle L:90%
of maybe, uh, perhaps it's actually a very

721
00:48:00.070 --> 00:48:02.559 A:middle L:90%
, very poor family that cannot do anything. But

722
00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:06.099 A:middle L:90%
he said that they can at least try to pay

723
00:48:06.110 --> 00:48:08.500 A:middle L:90%
registration and then after that, there's nothing at all

724
00:48:09.170 --> 00:48:12.159 A:middle L:90%
. I've been exposed to that life as well.

725
00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:15.500 A:middle L:90%
When I entered the university, You know I was

726
00:48:15.500 --> 00:48:20.010 A:middle L:90%
from high school level and there I was paying 46

727
00:48:20.010 --> 00:48:22.630 A:middle L:90%
grand for the entire year, Maybe Paul you can

728
00:48:22.630 --> 00:48:30.460 A:middle L:90%
help them with convict converting 46th grade$3. Yeah

729
00:48:30.500 --> 00:48:32.880 A:middle L:90%
. And then here I come to university, here

730
00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:39.579 A:middle L:90%
I come to university Where the registration is 1.5 1500

731
00:48:40.170 --> 00:48:44.039 A:middle L:90%
. And that was like what? And that was

732
00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:45.309 A:middle L:90%
a lot of money to me. But then again

733
00:48:45.309 --> 00:48:47.880 A:middle L:90%
my father was there to support me and all of

734
00:48:47.889 --> 00:48:52.989 A:middle L:90%
those things And also that is just registration and then

735
00:48:52.989 --> 00:48:57.300 A:middle L:90%
the commission would be say 8000 for all the subjects

736
00:48:57.300 --> 00:49:00.920 A:middle L:90%
that I was doing and also as a student,

737
00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:05.210 A:middle L:90%
what I've noticed or realizes that can just only rely

738
00:49:05.210 --> 00:49:07.039 A:middle L:90%
on my father. You know, there's lots of

739
00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:12.460 A:middle L:90%
activities in the university, there's posters, adverts looking

740
00:49:12.460 --> 00:49:15.369 A:middle L:90%
for student assistance sort of exposing myself in those because

741
00:49:15.369 --> 00:49:17.829 A:middle L:90%
in my second year level, as much as the

742
00:49:17.829 --> 00:49:22.530 A:middle L:90%
work was really heavy for me. But I pushed

743
00:49:22.530 --> 00:49:25.309 A:middle L:90%
for student assistant position so that I can finance and

744
00:49:25.309 --> 00:49:28.559 A:middle L:90%
assist my father because he was also responsible for the

745
00:49:28.570 --> 00:49:31.369 A:middle L:90%
family. So I'm not sure this generation can cannot

746
00:49:31.380 --> 00:49:35.780 A:middle L:90%
think that way. Perhaps multitask yourself. Look elsewhere

747
00:49:36.170 --> 00:49:38.699 A:middle L:90%
, complication conversations, luckily they have, you know

748
00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:44.610 A:middle L:90%
, connection with the new systems and sick elsewhere and

749
00:49:44.610 --> 00:49:51.320 A:middle L:90%
find support. So it sounds like tuition is set

750
00:49:51.329 --> 00:49:53.039 A:middle L:90%
for all the public universities at the national level.

751
00:49:53.039 --> 00:49:57.500 A:middle L:90%
Is that true or is it? Yes, it

752
00:49:57.500 --> 00:49:59.489 A:middle L:90%
is. It is that the public years a public

753
00:49:59.489 --> 00:50:01.920 A:middle L:90%
level, all the universities, hence the minister announced

754
00:50:01.929 --> 00:50:05.119 A:middle L:90%
. Uh, I think last week. Yes.

755
00:50:05.119 --> 00:50:09.480 A:middle L:90%
He was addressing all public universities. Yes. Provinces

756
00:50:09.719 --> 00:50:16.380 A:middle L:90%
, states control over the universities region as far as

757
00:50:16.380 --> 00:50:28.320 A:middle L:90%
setting fees. Yes. Yes. From is it

758
00:50:28.329 --> 00:50:34.210 A:middle L:90%
your impression that faculty and students at your university use

759
00:50:34.210 --> 00:50:37.550 A:middle L:90%
open access materials a lot? And if so are

760
00:50:37.559 --> 00:50:40.750 A:middle L:90%
they, then is that a fairly easy argument to

761
00:50:40.750 --> 00:50:45.949 A:middle L:90%
make to them? But Bennett benefited from open access

762
00:50:45.949 --> 00:50:47.619 A:middle L:90%
articles and therefore you should make your own work as

763
00:50:47.619 --> 00:50:52.130 A:middle L:90%
well, I would say yes. Because that is

764
00:50:52.139 --> 00:50:57.780 A:middle L:90%
determined by the number of Okay, for example,

765
00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:00.590 A:middle L:90%
usage of the collection, for example, the print

766
00:51:00.590 --> 00:51:04.929 A:middle L:90%
versus the e that we looked at. We've noticed

767
00:51:04.929 --> 00:51:08.510 A:middle L:90%
that students, they don't often come in borrow books

768
00:51:08.510 --> 00:51:12.460 A:middle L:90%
anymore like they used to before. And also in

769
00:51:12.460 --> 00:51:15.550 A:middle L:90%
terms of journal articles, you hardly hear somebody saying

770
00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:19.340 A:middle L:90%
I'm looking for an article in a journal which is

771
00:51:19.340 --> 00:51:22.340 A:middle L:90%
they do find their way online and also through our

772
00:51:22.340 --> 00:51:24.889 A:middle L:90%
subscription as well. Yes, I think open access

773
00:51:24.889 --> 00:51:28.429 A:middle L:90%
is playing a very crucial role, I would say

774
00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:32.179 A:middle L:90%
, because also we cut down in terms of subscriptions

775
00:51:32.860 --> 00:51:37.429 A:middle L:90%
and sort of to sort of move or slightly move

776
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:46.769 A:middle L:90%
to the electronic route than print. Mhm. Mhm

777
00:51:47.260 --> 00:51:52.219 A:middle L:90%
. Has your has the amount you pay for online

778
00:51:52.219 --> 00:51:59.519 A:middle L:90%
subscription databases increased decreased recently. It has increased.

779
00:51:59.519 --> 00:52:02.599 A:middle L:90%
That's why we need to critically look also at the

780
00:52:02.610 --> 00:52:07.750 A:middle L:90%
packages and try to select the heavily used, you

781
00:52:07.750 --> 00:52:13.409 A:middle L:90%
know, titles within and perhaps opt for perhaps buying

782
00:52:13.420 --> 00:52:15.610 A:middle L:90%
a single copy done, you know, going for

783
00:52:15.610 --> 00:52:19.599 A:middle L:90%
the entire package. That's what we've looked at.

784
00:52:19.610 --> 00:52:22.710 A:middle L:90%
Yes, I remember last year we nearly lost the

785
00:52:22.719 --> 00:52:27.829 A:middle L:90%
widely online product and it was instead of a big

786
00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:30.110 A:middle L:90%
because we did not want to lose it and we

787
00:52:30.110 --> 00:52:35.889 A:middle L:90%
were negotiating and even a your son like that sort

788
00:52:35.889 --> 00:52:38.530 A:middle L:90%
of negotiate in terms of the deals with our products

789
00:52:38.539 --> 00:52:46.539 A:middle L:90%
. Yes, they have really increased. Well it's

790
00:52:46.539 --> 00:52:50.420 A:middle L:90%
about that time, folks. Um Thank you so

791
00:52:50.420 --> 00:52:52.820 A:middle L:90%
much. We're going please help me with some of

792
00:52:52.820 --> 00:52:58.510 A:middle L:90%
that yogurt. It's very good. Uh We're going

793
00:52:58.510 --> 00:53:00.300 A:middle L:90%
to be around for a little while, so if

794
00:53:00.300 --> 00:53:02.420 A:middle L:90%
you'd like to meet Billy swan, ask her some

795
00:53:02.420 --> 00:53:06.400 A:middle L:90%
more questions or anything, please do so thank you

796
00:53:06.400 --> 00:53:10.480 A:middle L:90%
so much. Thank you so much.

