WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.339 --> 00:00:10.240 A:middle L:90% Okay thank you. Mhm. Okay. Yeah. 2 00:00:13.939 --> 00:00:16.920 A:middle L:90% All right welcome you guys. Thanks everybody for coming 3 00:00:16.920 --> 00:00:20.510 A:middle L:90% . This is our first annual um event, the 4 00:00:20.510 --> 00:00:24.190 A:middle L:90% assessment showcase. And it's a partnership between the D 5 00:00:24.190 --> 00:00:26.690 A:middle L:90% . S. A. Division of student affairs um 6 00:00:26.699 --> 00:00:30.859 A:middle L:90% the Office of Assessment and Evaluation and the library and 7 00:00:30.859 --> 00:00:33.140 A:middle L:90% the library. So all three parties are coming together 8 00:00:33.140 --> 00:00:36.460 A:middle L:90% to try to showcase some of the great assessment work 9 00:00:36.460 --> 00:00:39.159 A:middle L:90% that we're doing around the university in different areas and 10 00:00:39.159 --> 00:00:44.049 A:middle L:90% how effective assessment has been making, some decision making 11 00:00:44.060 --> 00:00:46.729 A:middle L:90% informed decisions better. So we're also trying to build 12 00:00:46.729 --> 00:00:49.250 A:middle L:90% a network of people around to share some of the 13 00:00:49.259 --> 00:00:52.840 A:middle L:90% projects that we're doing. Um So in addition to 14 00:00:52.840 --> 00:00:55.509 A:middle L:90% the live sessions that were doing which will be um 15 00:00:55.520 --> 00:00:58.990 A:middle L:90% from 12 to 1 today we do have um poster 16 00:00:58.990 --> 00:01:00.090 A:middle L:90% presentations that are on the main level that you can 17 00:01:00.090 --> 00:01:03.609 A:middle L:90% walk through at any point but on friday specifically from 18 00:01:03.609 --> 00:01:06.209 A:middle L:90% 12 to to we're going to have a popcorns and 19 00:01:06.209 --> 00:01:08.319 A:middle L:90% poster session and um so hopefully you can join us 20 00:01:08.319 --> 00:01:11.409 A:middle L:90% for for something on another day this week at this 21 00:01:11.409 --> 00:01:15.090 A:middle L:90% time or the poster and popcorn sessions. So for 22 00:01:15.090 --> 00:01:19.319 A:middle L:90% today, for the live assessment briefings, um what 23 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:21.780 A:middle L:90% we're gonna do is have each presenter, we've got 24 00:01:21.780 --> 00:01:23.950 A:middle L:90% four people to talk today each for 15 minutes and 25 00:01:23.950 --> 00:01:26.159 A:middle L:90% we're gonna hold true to making them 15 minutes, 26 00:01:26.159 --> 00:01:29.920 A:middle L:90% so we can have you out by one and I'll 27 00:01:29.930 --> 00:01:32.680 A:middle L:90% um depending on if they have time, if you 28 00:01:32.680 --> 00:01:34.439 A:middle L:90% want to ask questions, you can ask questions or 29 00:01:34.439 --> 00:01:38.030 A:middle L:90% stay and talk to the presenters at afterwards or another 30 00:01:38.030 --> 00:01:40.260 A:middle L:90% time. So I'm gonna turn it over to our 31 00:01:40.260 --> 00:01:42.879 A:middle L:90% presenters today and these are the four that we have 32 00:01:42.879 --> 00:01:44.819 A:middle L:90% in the order that they're going to go and I 33 00:01:44.819 --> 00:01:46.840 A:middle L:90% won't come back up in between each one, so 34 00:01:46.840 --> 00:01:49.049 A:middle L:90% we'll just go right from one presenter to the next 35 00:01:49.239 --> 00:01:51.849 A:middle L:90% . So our first presenter today is Katherine um link 36 00:01:52.040 --> 00:01:53.680 A:middle L:90% , and then after that is Michael, cut neck 37 00:01:53.689 --> 00:01:57.989 A:middle L:90% , and then um Sophie Wenzel and then Jack Evans 38 00:01:57.989 --> 00:02:00.340 A:middle L:90% , and they'll introduce themselves and what topic they're talking 39 00:02:00.340 --> 00:02:02.349 A:middle L:90% about as well as the department that they're representing. 40 00:02:02.840 --> 00:02:07.670 A:middle L:90% So I'll turn it over to Catherine, I'm Katherine 41 00:02:07.670 --> 00:02:08.729 A:middle L:90% and Link, I'm the director of Graduate Programs and 42 00:02:08.729 --> 00:02:12.240 A:middle L:90% Assessment in the College of Engineering. Um and I'm 43 00:02:12.240 --> 00:02:14.099 A:middle L:90% going to highlight some of the work that I've done 44 00:02:14.099 --> 00:02:19.009 A:middle L:90% recently on Assessment of entrepreneurship education, a program that's 45 00:02:19.020 --> 00:02:22.840 A:middle L:90% being run through the College Engineering based on an NSF 46 00:02:22.840 --> 00:02:25.699 A:middle L:90% funded grant and also a related course that's for undergraduates 47 00:02:25.710 --> 00:02:32.270 A:middle L:90% here at the university. Um the mhm You know 48 00:02:32.280 --> 00:02:35.129 A:middle L:90% , the program that was going to talk about is 49 00:02:35.129 --> 00:02:38.740 A:middle L:90% an NSF funded I corps program and it's basically designed 50 00:02:38.740 --> 00:02:42.810 A:middle L:90% to lead um technical academic teams through a six week 51 00:02:42.819 --> 00:02:46.759 A:middle L:90% process to encourage them to pursue their entrepreneurial endeavors and 52 00:02:46.759 --> 00:02:50.039 A:middle L:90% the goal is to prepare them to create and lead 53 00:02:50.050 --> 00:02:52.949 A:middle L:90% a start up by the time they're through the program 54 00:02:52.960 --> 00:02:54.800 A:middle L:90% , the program is based on a curriculum known as 55 00:02:54.800 --> 00:03:00.240 A:middle L:90% lean launchpad and there's a whole body of literature around 56 00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:04.169 A:middle L:90% that and how that works. But it's um very 57 00:03:04.169 --> 00:03:07.550 A:middle L:90% much based on sort of a hands on approach. 58 00:03:07.560 --> 00:03:09.479 A:middle L:90% How do you learn to be an entrepreneur by doing 59 00:03:09.490 --> 00:03:12.250 A:middle L:90% some of the things they would expect an entrepreneur to 60 00:03:12.259 --> 00:03:15.289 A:middle L:90% do based on some of the faculty who were involved 61 00:03:15.300 --> 00:03:17.409 A:middle L:90% in the I corps program, either going through it 62 00:03:17.419 --> 00:03:22.870 A:middle L:90% themselves or teaching through the I corps program. Um 63 00:03:22.879 --> 00:03:24.069 A:middle L:90% , those observations led them to think that there were 64 00:03:24.069 --> 00:03:28.240 A:middle L:90% some really interesting things going on that they really saw 65 00:03:28.240 --> 00:03:30.879 A:middle L:90% happening with participants. And so then they decided to 66 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:34.550 A:middle L:90% start a similar course here at Virginia Tech, that 67 00:03:34.550 --> 00:03:37.159 A:middle L:90% would be open to undergraduates and then based on the 68 00:03:37.159 --> 00:03:38.060 A:middle L:90% interest, they actually opened it up to graduate students 69 00:03:38.060 --> 00:03:40.949 A:middle L:90% as well and they use basically the same curriculum, 70 00:03:40.949 --> 00:03:46.969 A:middle L:90% the same approach for those classes. When we talked 71 00:03:46.969 --> 00:03:51.740 A:middle L:90% about assessment of the course, um we realized that 72 00:03:51.750 --> 00:03:53.539 A:middle L:90% , like I said, it was very much based 73 00:03:53.539 --> 00:03:55.710 A:middle L:90% on this idea of active learning and that participants, 74 00:03:55.719 --> 00:03:59.969 A:middle L:90% although there is some core concepts that they have to 75 00:03:59.979 --> 00:04:01.360 A:middle L:90% learn about in each of these six week um, 76 00:04:01.360 --> 00:04:04.819 A:middle L:90% segments or over towards the six weeks. Um they 77 00:04:04.819 --> 00:04:09.020 A:middle L:90% learn by doing and so they go out, they 78 00:04:09.020 --> 00:04:11.280 A:middle L:90% learn a little bit during the course, Most of 79 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:13.780 A:middle L:90% the courses are taught by Webex and then they come 80 00:04:13.780 --> 00:04:15.600 A:middle L:90% back and report on what they've learned and they demonstrate 81 00:04:15.600 --> 00:04:20.560 A:middle L:90% their knowledge through basically continuing to work on what they 82 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:23.930 A:middle L:90% call in the I corps program in this lean launchpad 83 00:04:23.930 --> 00:04:27.970 A:middle L:90% approach the business model canvas, which is very different 84 00:04:27.980 --> 00:04:31.350 A:middle L:90% from traditional entrepreneurship classes that you might find like the 85 00:04:31.350 --> 00:04:34.160 A:middle L:90% college of business where people work on a business plan 86 00:04:34.439 --> 00:04:38.360 A:middle L:90% and they're considered successful or they're judged in terms of 87 00:04:38.360 --> 00:04:40.990 A:middle L:90% their success on a business plan that they have successfully 88 00:04:40.990 --> 00:04:43.250 A:middle L:90% put together. So it's a very different approach. 89 00:04:43.839 --> 00:04:48.079 A:middle L:90% Um, interestingly enough, there were very clear objectives 90 00:04:48.079 --> 00:04:51.139 A:middle L:90% associated with the course at Virginia Tech and you needed 91 00:04:51.139 --> 00:04:54.029 A:middle L:90% that obviously to put the syllabus together and get it 92 00:04:54.029 --> 00:04:56.819 A:middle L:90% approved to go through the governance process. What was 93 00:04:56.819 --> 00:04:59.870 A:middle L:90% not so clear were the I Corps objectives. There 94 00:04:59.870 --> 00:05:03.110 A:middle L:90% are actually no clear objectives tied with this particular program 95 00:05:03.120 --> 00:05:06.699 A:middle L:90% , although it's funded to have the goal of creating 96 00:05:06.699 --> 00:05:10.879 A:middle L:90% entrepreneurs that can then go out and create these startups 97 00:05:10.879 --> 00:05:15.259 A:middle L:90% successfully. So what we tried to do was encourage 98 00:05:15.259 --> 00:05:18.310 A:middle L:90% the NSF to adopt a set of objectives. Unfortunately 99 00:05:18.310 --> 00:05:23.339 A:middle L:90% , that's tied up still in the curriculum committee being 100 00:05:23.339 --> 00:05:27.259 A:middle L:90% deliberated with the NSF, so that's um, to 101 00:05:27.259 --> 00:05:30.339 A:middle L:90% be determined. But because the way that I corps 102 00:05:30.339 --> 00:05:32.829 A:middle L:90% program works, we can still carry out the assessments 103 00:05:32.829 --> 00:05:36.089 A:middle L:90% that we want to on the program. Um although 104 00:05:36.089 --> 00:05:39.329 A:middle L:90% we'd be greatly aided if we could map some of 105 00:05:39.329 --> 00:05:41.620 A:middle L:90% the work that we're doing to clear objectives. We 106 00:05:41.620 --> 00:05:43.339 A:middle L:90% are able to do that with the course and I'll 107 00:05:43.339 --> 00:05:45.589 A:middle L:90% talk a little bit about the approach that we used 108 00:05:45.600 --> 00:05:47.439 A:middle L:90% . Um, but we broke it down to a 109 00:05:47.439 --> 00:05:50.100 A:middle L:90% couple different areas. We looked at what content knowledge 110 00:05:50.100 --> 00:05:53.759 A:middle L:90% participants need to leave the course with. Are they 111 00:05:53.759 --> 00:05:56.569 A:middle L:90% expected to leave the course with? Um, how 112 00:05:56.569 --> 00:05:58.920 A:middle L:90% do they deal with ambiguity? Because that's one of 113 00:05:58.920 --> 00:06:00.680 A:middle L:90% the big things that this program focuses on. We 114 00:06:00.680 --> 00:06:02.550 A:middle L:90% look at their confidence. A lot of what people 115 00:06:02.550 --> 00:06:04.769 A:middle L:90% say is that entrepreneurs have to have a fair amount 116 00:06:04.769 --> 00:06:08.050 A:middle L:90% of confidence in terms of body of literature that's out 117 00:06:08.050 --> 00:06:09.750 A:middle L:90% there, and some of the other studies that are 118 00:06:09.759 --> 00:06:12.750 A:middle L:90% done, and then we looked at their ability to 119 00:06:12.750 --> 00:06:15.269 A:middle L:90% network. Has that improved Following the course? They 120 00:06:15.269 --> 00:06:16.100 A:middle L:90% feel like they have a better network people that they 121 00:06:16.100 --> 00:06:17.790 A:middle L:90% can go to. And then we asked them about 122 00:06:17.790 --> 00:06:20.879 A:middle L:90% their own perceptions of their entrepreneurship skills and how they 123 00:06:20.879 --> 00:06:28.089 A:middle L:90% think they developed over the course of the program in 124 00:06:28.089 --> 00:06:30.550 A:middle L:90% the beginning, when we try to map out sort 125 00:06:30.550 --> 00:06:32.100 A:middle L:90% of what we wanted to do with the assessment of 126 00:06:32.110 --> 00:06:34.779 A:middle L:90% this particular program, there were some big goals. 127 00:06:34.790 --> 00:06:40.040 A:middle L:90% We wanted to um yield information about changes that might 128 00:06:40.040 --> 00:06:43.819 A:middle L:90% take place an entrepreneurial mindset. So how did how 129 00:06:43.819 --> 00:06:46.370 A:middle L:90% did their thinking change as a result of going through 130 00:06:46.370 --> 00:06:49.709 A:middle L:90% this this course? Um we wanted to use observation 131 00:06:49.720 --> 00:06:53.139 A:middle L:90% in terms of where they actually able to demonstrate some 132 00:06:53.139 --> 00:06:55.660 A:middle L:90% of these things that we expected them to have. 133 00:06:56.040 --> 00:06:58.329 A:middle L:90% We wanted to administer a pre post survey that we 134 00:06:58.329 --> 00:07:00.170 A:middle L:90% get at. Some of the things that I talked 135 00:07:00.170 --> 00:07:02.209 A:middle L:90% about before in terms of content knowledge about their perceptions 136 00:07:02.209 --> 00:07:05.350 A:middle L:90% of their skills, about their ability to network. 137 00:07:05.360 --> 00:07:08.680 A:middle L:90% So their own judgments about those things. We want 138 00:07:08.680 --> 00:07:10.949 A:middle L:90% to do follow up interviews to say, you know 139 00:07:11.939 --> 00:07:14.459 A:middle L:90% , following this course, how has your thinking changed 140 00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:16.180 A:middle L:90% ? Um what skills do you think you learned? 141 00:07:16.180 --> 00:07:18.480 A:middle L:90% How have you applied those things in different contexts? 142 00:07:19.439 --> 00:07:21.600 A:middle L:90% And then we wanted to compare those findings with a 143 00:07:21.600 --> 00:07:25.350 A:middle L:90% control group because really when you think about it, 144 00:07:25.360 --> 00:07:29.779 A:middle L:90% what is what would make these entrepreneurs different from another 145 00:07:29.779 --> 00:07:31.000 A:middle L:90% group? And can we really look at where there 146 00:07:31.000 --> 00:07:34.160 A:middle L:90% any differences between these two groups in terms of the 147 00:07:34.160 --> 00:07:39.810 A:middle L:90% reality of funding and time we've been able to successfully 148 00:07:39.819 --> 00:07:46.029 A:middle L:90% do is um really conducted pre post survey. So 149 00:07:46.029 --> 00:07:48.129 A:middle L:90% we've asked participants before, they've gone through both the 150 00:07:48.139 --> 00:07:51.990 A:middle L:90% I corps program and through the course here at Virginia 151 00:07:51.990 --> 00:07:57.350 A:middle L:90% Tech, um their own perceptions about their skills, 152 00:07:57.360 --> 00:08:00.279 A:middle L:90% their ability to deal with ambiguity and things like that 153 00:08:00.290 --> 00:08:01.670 A:middle L:90% . And we've been able to do the pre post 154 00:08:01.670 --> 00:08:03.769 A:middle L:90% survey. We do have plans to do some follow 155 00:08:03.769 --> 00:08:07.379 A:middle L:90% up interviews, but for right now we've had to 156 00:08:07.379 --> 00:08:09.240 A:middle L:90% settle for some open ended questions that might be able 157 00:08:09.240 --> 00:08:11.740 A:middle L:90% to give us some more information about how they think 158 00:08:11.740 --> 00:08:15.600 A:middle L:90% they've changed in their way of thinking, following participation 159 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:18.620 A:middle L:90% in this course. And then one of the things 160 00:08:18.620 --> 00:08:20.769 A:middle L:90% that we've done is to refine some of the course 161 00:08:20.769 --> 00:08:24.939 A:middle L:90% objectives that we've used here at Virginia Tech, following 162 00:08:24.939 --> 00:08:28.100 A:middle L:90% the process that we've used for the assessment and with 163 00:08:28.100 --> 00:08:30.250 A:middle L:90% some of the data that we've collected. And then 164 00:08:30.250 --> 00:08:31.190 A:middle L:90% what we've also wanted to do is take some of 165 00:08:31.190 --> 00:08:35.049 A:middle L:90% the data that we've collected and we're going to approach 166 00:08:35.049 --> 00:08:37.450 A:middle L:90% the NSF again, approach the curriculum committee again and 167 00:08:37.450 --> 00:08:39.419 A:middle L:90% get them to really think about some clear objectives that 168 00:08:39.419 --> 00:08:41.789 A:middle L:90% could be linked with the I corps program that could 169 00:08:41.789 --> 00:08:46.769 A:middle L:90% be more clearly evaluated and assessed and could provide some 170 00:08:46.769 --> 00:08:48.039 A:middle L:90% more useful data in terms of how to improve the 171 00:08:48.049 --> 00:08:52.080 A:middle L:90% program. Um If the goal is really to create 172 00:08:52.090 --> 00:08:54.730 A:middle L:90% um entrepreneurs that think very differently than when they started 173 00:08:54.730 --> 00:09:00.009 A:middle L:90% the course, that's sort of the approach that that 174 00:09:00.009 --> 00:09:03.519 A:middle L:90% we use and how we've approached assessment of entrepreneurship, 175 00:09:03.529 --> 00:09:07.990 A:middle L:90% some of the challenges that we faced. Um questions 176 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:11.710 A:middle L:90% , comments. Yeah. Do you, when you 177 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:15.740 A:middle L:90% were doing this to review when um like after you 178 00:09:15.750 --> 00:09:18.460 A:middle L:90% follow an individual or you just, we're afraid. 179 00:09:18.840 --> 00:09:22.179 A:middle L:90% Yeah, we know we follow the individuals and so 180 00:09:22.179 --> 00:09:24.279 A:middle L:90% we compare their their proposed assessments and we have found 181 00:09:24.289 --> 00:09:28.970 A:middle L:90% from comparison of those results that both with the I 182 00:09:28.970 --> 00:09:33.149 A:middle L:90% corps program participants and with the student participants, um 183 00:09:33.159 --> 00:09:35.029 A:middle L:90% they've really changed in terms of their confidence has remained 184 00:09:35.029 --> 00:09:37.029 A:middle L:90% the same. So they came in to the program 185 00:09:37.029 --> 00:09:39.649 A:middle L:90% is very confident, they left as confident as when 186 00:09:39.649 --> 00:09:43.600 A:middle L:90% they came in if not more so no surprise. 187 00:09:43.610 --> 00:09:45.769 A:middle L:90% And then um what we did find out is that 188 00:09:45.779 --> 00:09:48.200 A:middle L:90% they were learning new content. So they were learning 189 00:09:48.200 --> 00:09:50.429 A:middle L:90% this lean launchpad approach and were able to articulate it 190 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:56.019 A:middle L:90% much more clearly um in a very clear manner following 191 00:09:56.029 --> 00:09:58.919 A:middle L:90% um exit the program of course. And so those 192 00:09:58.929 --> 00:10:01.070 A:middle L:90% , that was one thing what we expected to see 193 00:10:01.070 --> 00:10:05.000 A:middle L:90% was that their ability to deal with ambiguity may have 194 00:10:05.000 --> 00:10:09.940 A:middle L:90% changed and they would be um better able to deal 195 00:10:09.940 --> 00:10:15.700 A:middle L:90% with uncertain, uncertain circumstances after participation in this program 196 00:10:15.700 --> 00:10:16.519 A:middle L:90% . But we did not see the changes that we 197 00:10:16.519 --> 00:10:18.259 A:middle L:90% anticipated. And so one of the things that we're 198 00:10:18.259 --> 00:10:20.000 A:middle L:90% looking at is, you know, is this a 199 00:10:20.009 --> 00:10:22.580 A:middle L:90% matter of changing the questions on the survey tool? 200 00:10:22.580 --> 00:10:26.470 A:middle L:90% Or is it really just the fact that in actuality 201 00:10:26.470 --> 00:10:28.240 A:middle L:90% you can only accomplish so much in six weeks and 202 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:31.340 A:middle L:90% that those changes are not actually taking place as we 203 00:10:31.340 --> 00:10:33.519 A:middle L:90% once intended them too. So that's sort of being 204 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:35.950 A:middle L:90% looked at as well as the curriculum. Um, 205 00:10:37.639 --> 00:10:39.240 A:middle L:90% one of the things that we did find out was 206 00:10:39.240 --> 00:10:41.909 A:middle L:90% that what's really new to the participants in these programs 207 00:10:41.909 --> 00:10:46.259 A:middle L:90% is this idea of customer discovery. And so, 208 00:10:46.269 --> 00:10:48.830 A:middle L:90% um this whole idea of going out, not just 209 00:10:48.840 --> 00:10:52.370 A:middle L:90% taking your business plan and putting it together and getting 210 00:10:52.379 --> 00:10:54.990 A:middle L:90% a clear plan in mind in terms of how you 211 00:10:54.990 --> 00:10:56.500 A:middle L:90% want to accomplish your goals for your startup, but 212 00:10:56.509 --> 00:11:01.110 A:middle L:90% actually taking the time to go out and interview potential 213 00:11:01.110 --> 00:11:03.440 A:middle L:90% customers and really find out who is your market. 214 00:11:03.730 --> 00:11:07.350 A:middle L:90% Is there a market? And what should that, 215 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:09.720 A:middle L:90% you know, what should your product look like for 216 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:13.340 A:middle L:90% that? So that was that something that has really 217 00:11:13.340 --> 00:11:15.480 A:middle L:90% risen to the top in terms of point of interest 218 00:11:15.730 --> 00:11:18.799 A:middle L:90% and something that the courses successfully changing the way people 219 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:24.860 A:middle L:90% are for thinking. Now, did you look at 220 00:11:24.870 --> 00:11:26.970 A:middle L:90% how many students are intending to actually move forward with 221 00:11:26.970 --> 00:11:31.710 A:middle L:90% the project and further now? Mhm. We we 222 00:11:31.710 --> 00:11:33.120 A:middle L:90% plan to do a follow up. So a lot 223 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:35.759 A:middle L:90% of times what happens is they go through the program 224 00:11:35.769 --> 00:11:39.149 A:middle L:90% and they have to make a decision. The lean 225 00:11:39.149 --> 00:11:41.830 A:middle L:90% launchpad approach essentially leads them through six weeks with us 226 00:11:41.830 --> 00:11:43.159 A:middle L:90% and they are a go or no go decision. 227 00:11:43.539 --> 00:11:46.100 A:middle L:90% And so they have to decide for themselves, sort 228 00:11:46.100 --> 00:11:48.820 A:middle L:90% of do I have anything to go on in terms 229 00:11:48.820 --> 00:11:50.440 A:middle L:90% of all my ideas. Can I pursue this any 230 00:11:50.450 --> 00:11:54.590 A:middle L:90% further? But what we hope is that even if 231 00:11:54.590 --> 00:11:58.019 A:middle L:90% they ended with a no go decision um that they 232 00:11:58.019 --> 00:12:01.019 A:middle L:90% could use the skills that they've gained through this program 233 00:12:01.029 --> 00:12:03.370 A:middle L:90% to pursue, pursue something else. And so we 234 00:12:03.370 --> 00:12:05.389 A:middle L:90% were planning to follow up with some of the participants 235 00:12:05.389 --> 00:12:09.210 A:middle L:90% , but not for probably another year, thinking that 236 00:12:09.210 --> 00:12:11.710 A:middle L:90% it may take that long for them to get another 237 00:12:11.710 --> 00:12:22.460 A:middle L:90% idea together and the courage to pursue it first questions 238 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:26.610 A:middle L:90% , not I can turn it over to mike and 239 00:12:26.610 --> 00:12:30.779 A:middle L:90% I can always field something that comes up later. 240 00:12:31.539 --> 00:12:35.980 A:middle L:90% It is surprising thing you learned. Um what did 241 00:12:35.980 --> 00:12:37.009 A:middle L:90% you, you said you got outcomes, you didn't 242 00:12:37.009 --> 00:12:41.669 A:middle L:90% expect, like you say, what what are things 243 00:12:41.679 --> 00:12:45.690 A:middle L:90% that came? Really didn't see coming. I think 244 00:12:45.700 --> 00:12:48.950 A:middle L:90% I think the idea that essentially the designers of the 245 00:12:48.950 --> 00:12:54.019 A:middle L:90% lean launchpad approach really believe that they are changing the 246 00:12:54.019 --> 00:12:56.740 A:middle L:90% way people operate. You know, that they are 247 00:12:56.750 --> 00:13:00.659 A:middle L:90% creating who people who came into the program will be 248 00:13:00.669 --> 00:13:03.330 A:middle L:90% changed for the, you know, sort of the 249 00:13:03.340 --> 00:13:07.419 A:middle L:90% rest of their um time here. It's a very 250 00:13:07.419 --> 00:13:09.389 A:middle L:90% ambitious, but there are strong believers in that. 251 00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:11.519 A:middle L:90% Um and I think that what we found out is 252 00:13:11.519 --> 00:13:15.169 A:middle L:90% that that was like, it was the most surprising 253 00:13:15.179 --> 00:13:20.889 A:middle L:90% thing that we're not having that big of an impact 254 00:13:20.889 --> 00:13:22.960 A:middle L:90% in that short period of time as as once believed 255 00:13:22.970 --> 00:13:24.970 A:middle L:90% . But I think what's interesting is that you can 256 00:13:24.970 --> 00:13:30.730 A:middle L:90% take people who are traditional engineers, who are very 257 00:13:30.730 --> 00:13:33.840 A:middle L:90% science focused, who may not have had any prior 258 00:13:33.840 --> 00:13:39.820 A:middle L:90% experience with this whole idea of interaction with outside entities 259 00:13:39.820 --> 00:13:43.509 A:middle L:90% , with this idea of how do I actually do 260 00:13:43.509 --> 00:13:46.659 A:middle L:90% an interview? How would I talk to somebody about 261 00:13:46.659 --> 00:13:48.899 A:middle L:90% my product and they're gaining skills that actually allow them 262 00:13:48.899 --> 00:13:52.340 A:middle L:90% to do that? And that's really interesting. So 263 00:13:52.340 --> 00:13:56.669 A:middle L:90% there's there is something happening but probably not as significant 264 00:13:56.679 --> 00:14:01.850 A:middle L:90% as the launch pad. Thanks. Thank you. 265 00:14:03.440 --> 00:14:09.230 A:middle L:90% Thank you. Okay. Hi everybody. My name 266 00:14:09.230 --> 00:14:13.610 A:middle L:90% is mike cut back. I am representing today Office 267 00:14:13.610 --> 00:14:16.830 A:middle L:90% of University 88 services. We are part of equity 268 00:14:16.830 --> 00:14:20.610 A:middle L:90% and access, which is within human resources here at 269 00:14:20.610 --> 00:14:24.029 A:middle L:90% Virginia Tech, and I'm also a doctoral candidate in 270 00:14:24.029 --> 00:14:28.500 A:middle L:90% the higher education program here. Um and that's important 271 00:14:28.509 --> 00:14:31.909 A:middle L:90% because that's how this project began. Uh This project 272 00:14:31.909 --> 00:14:35.860 A:middle L:90% started as a class assignment and dr Berg's evaluation class 273 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:39.169 A:middle L:90% um that was designed to make my life at work 274 00:14:39.179 --> 00:14:41.980 A:middle L:90% a little bit easier uh to help me do a 275 00:14:41.980 --> 00:14:43.750 A:middle L:90% rather enormous task. So today, what I'm going 276 00:14:43.750 --> 00:14:46.980 A:middle L:90% to talk to you about is creating a master transition 277 00:14:46.980 --> 00:14:48.470 A:middle L:90% plan at Virginia Tech and what that means and what 278 00:14:48.470 --> 00:14:54.149 A:middle L:90% that involves and how University ADA services touches that. 279 00:14:54.039 --> 00:14:58.259 A:middle L:90% Um But in my job in University 88 services, 280 00:14:58.259 --> 00:15:00.679 A:middle L:90% I'm the A. D. A specialist and I 281 00:15:00.679 --> 00:15:03.139 A:middle L:90% focus on physical access here at campus. So what 282 00:15:03.139 --> 00:15:07.389 A:middle L:90% that means is any any building we have any space 283 00:15:07.389 --> 00:15:09.200 A:middle L:90% that we use. Um I go and I look 284 00:15:09.200 --> 00:15:11.389 A:middle L:90% at it and I make sure that people who have 285 00:15:11.389 --> 00:15:15.259 A:middle L:90% some sort of physical disability would be able to use 286 00:15:15.259 --> 00:15:16.659 A:middle L:90% the space the same way the rest of us would 287 00:15:18.440 --> 00:15:22.179 A:middle L:90% . Um I look at all of our places that 288 00:15:22.179 --> 00:15:26.539 A:middle L:90% we go um here on campus and also anywhere else 289 00:15:26.139 --> 00:15:28.919 A:middle L:90% in the world that we go, we have to 290 00:15:28.929 --> 00:15:33.539 A:middle L:90% be compliant with the laws here in the United States 291 00:15:33.549 --> 00:15:37.049 A:middle L:90% because we are an entity that exists here in the 292 00:15:37.049 --> 00:15:39.610 A:middle L:90% United States as part of the government here. So 293 00:15:39.620 --> 00:15:43.720 A:middle L:90% even our campuses around the state and around the country 294 00:15:43.730 --> 00:15:46.350 A:middle L:90% and around the world have to comply with all of 295 00:15:46.350 --> 00:15:50.149 A:middle L:90% the regulations related to physical access. So specifically, 296 00:15:50.149 --> 00:15:52.860 A:middle L:90% that's titled two of the americans with disabilities act. 297 00:15:52.440 --> 00:15:56.350 A:middle L:90% And that applies to all state and local government facilities 298 00:15:56.360 --> 00:15:58.929 A:middle L:90% and entities, uh and it covers not only physical 299 00:15:58.929 --> 00:16:02.759 A:middle L:90% access in their buildings and their spaces, but also 300 00:16:02.759 --> 00:16:06.389 A:middle L:90% programmatic access. And so the way that we deliver 301 00:16:06.389 --> 00:16:08.389 A:middle L:90% our educational programs, the way that we deliver our 302 00:16:08.389 --> 00:16:11.600 A:middle L:90% community service programs, the way that we deliver our 303 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:15.659 A:middle L:90% services to our students, the way that we deliver 304 00:16:15.659 --> 00:16:18.059 A:middle L:90% our services and our benefits to our faculty and staff 305 00:16:18.539 --> 00:16:22.399 A:middle L:90% , All have to comply with Title two of the 306 00:16:22.399 --> 00:16:26.860 A:middle L:90% Americans with Disabilities Act. So roughly here at Virginia 307 00:16:26.860 --> 00:16:30.190 A:middle L:90% Tech, we have about 30,000 students. We have 308 00:16:30.190 --> 00:16:34.649 A:middle L:90% roughly 6000 employees on campus at any given time. 309 00:16:36.750 --> 00:16:40.009 A:middle L:90% And that's just here in Blacksburg. That doesn't count 310 00:16:40.019 --> 00:16:42.019 A:middle L:90% all of our satellite campuses, It doesn't count the 311 00:16:42.029 --> 00:16:45.559 A:middle L:90% capital region, It doesn't count Switzerland or any of 312 00:16:45.559 --> 00:16:48.570 A:middle L:90% the other fun places that Virginia Tech is. Um 313 00:16:49.039 --> 00:16:52.129 A:middle L:90% And so our office is designed to help out all 314 00:16:52.129 --> 00:16:55.350 A:middle L:90% of those faculty and staff that work in Virginia Tech 315 00:16:56.039 --> 00:16:57.710 A:middle L:90% . And specifically, I look at physical access and 316 00:16:57.710 --> 00:17:03.070 A:middle L:90% programmatic access. So I work with departments, programs 317 00:17:03.539 --> 00:17:06.339 A:middle L:90% , different services that we have here to make sure 318 00:17:06.339 --> 00:17:07.559 A:middle L:90% that what you're doing and how you're doing it is 319 00:17:07.559 --> 00:17:11.859 A:middle L:90% accessible to people. So this involves lots of different 320 00:17:11.859 --> 00:17:12.490 A:middle L:90% types of things that you need to think about. 321 00:17:12.490 --> 00:17:15.410 A:middle L:90% Not only the physical space that you use for a 322 00:17:15.410 --> 00:17:18.569 A:middle L:90% meeting, uh but also how you deliver your information 323 00:17:18.579 --> 00:17:19.579 A:middle L:90% . So if you have handouts, do they come 324 00:17:19.579 --> 00:17:23.180 A:middle L:90% in an accessible format? If you have bulletin boards 325 00:17:23.180 --> 00:17:26.559 A:middle L:90% that display a lot of information in your office? 326 00:17:26.569 --> 00:17:29.250 A:middle L:90% Is that at a height that somebody in a wheelchair 327 00:17:29.250 --> 00:17:30.880 A:middle L:90% would be able to read it? Is it in 328 00:17:30.880 --> 00:17:33.470 A:middle L:90% a font that somebody with poor vision would be able 329 00:17:33.470 --> 00:17:36.069 A:middle L:90% to see? Do you use the right coloring so 330 00:17:36.069 --> 00:17:38.769 A:middle L:90% that we don't have grey lettering over a white background 331 00:17:40.140 --> 00:17:41.059 A:middle L:90% . Makes it really difficult to see those kinds of 332 00:17:41.069 --> 00:17:45.359 A:middle L:90% things. Uh So my job here as the A 333 00:17:45.359 --> 00:17:47.549 A:middle L:90% . D. A. Specialist is to look at 334 00:17:47.559 --> 00:17:49.420 A:middle L:90% all of these different things. Now. Virginia tech 335 00:17:49.420 --> 00:17:52.430 A:middle L:90% is huge. Does anybody know how many buildings we 336 00:17:52.430 --> 00:17:57.730 A:middle L:90% have here on campus? There's over 130 And I'm 337 00:17:57.730 --> 00:18:02.019 A:middle L:90% supposed to go look at every single one that's just 338 00:18:02.019 --> 00:18:04.049 A:middle L:90% here on campus. That doesn't count the research park 339 00:18:04.059 --> 00:18:07.529 A:middle L:90% . That doesn't count the CRC. That doesn't count 340 00:18:07.529 --> 00:18:14.130 A:middle L:90% any of our 107 locations around the state of Virginia 341 00:18:14.140 --> 00:18:18.400 A:middle L:90% for our extension services. It doesn't cover any of 342 00:18:18.400 --> 00:18:21.859 A:middle L:90% our six satellite campuses, like the Richmond campus or 343 00:18:22.539 --> 00:18:26.069 A:middle L:90% the northern Virginia campus of the Norfolk campus. Uh 344 00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:26.690 A:middle L:90% so there's a lot of space and there's a lot 345 00:18:26.690 --> 00:18:30.220 A:middle L:90% of places that we have to look at. So 346 00:18:30.220 --> 00:18:32.450 A:middle L:90% this project is designed to help us do that. 347 00:18:32.940 --> 00:18:34.430 A:middle L:90% Uh and part of what the law requires is that 348 00:18:34.440 --> 00:18:37.920 A:middle L:90% the institution or the entity create a document called the 349 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:41.460 A:middle L:90% master transition Plan. What a master transition plan does 350 00:18:41.460 --> 00:18:47.839 A:middle L:90% is simply document all areas of physical and programmatic access 351 00:18:47.839 --> 00:18:51.650 A:middle L:90% that may be problematic or maybe not up to code 352 00:18:51.660 --> 00:18:55.440 A:middle L:90% or may be in violation of the law and asks 353 00:18:55.440 --> 00:18:56.920 A:middle L:90% you to create a plan of how are you going 354 00:18:56.920 --> 00:18:59.460 A:middle L:90% to fix it? And so what you have to 355 00:18:59.470 --> 00:19:00.440 A:middle L:90% do in a master transition plan is you have to 356 00:19:00.450 --> 00:19:03.839 A:middle L:90% document what is the specific thing going on, Who 357 00:19:03.839 --> 00:19:07.250 A:middle L:90% are the people that are involved with that particular program 358 00:19:07.250 --> 00:19:08.220 A:middle L:90% ? So, um, if we're looking at how 359 00:19:08.220 --> 00:19:11.839 A:middle L:90% you deliver a service or program, it's who runs 360 00:19:11.839 --> 00:19:14.569 A:middle L:90% that program. If we're looking at a particular building 361 00:19:14.569 --> 00:19:17.230 A:middle L:90% , it's well, which department occupies that building and 362 00:19:17.230 --> 00:19:19.039 A:middle L:90% is using that space? Um and we involve those 363 00:19:19.039 --> 00:19:22.289 A:middle L:90% people, we list them on our document and we 364 00:19:22.289 --> 00:19:23.549 A:middle L:90% list the steps that we're taking to remedy the problem 365 00:19:25.539 --> 00:19:26.420 A:middle L:90% . Um and so this is a living document that 366 00:19:26.420 --> 00:19:30.309 A:middle L:90% we're required to keep here at Virginia Tech, um 367 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:33.000 A:middle L:90% and pretty much document anything that I find as I 368 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:36.460 A:middle L:90% go about and do this job. So what we 369 00:19:36.460 --> 00:19:37.119 A:middle L:90% had to do for this project was figure out, 370 00:19:37.119 --> 00:19:38.490 A:middle L:90% well, how are we going to do this in 371 00:19:38.490 --> 00:19:41.170 A:middle L:90% sort of a systematic way, because I can run 372 00:19:41.170 --> 00:19:44.039 A:middle L:90% around and look at all these buildings, but I 373 00:19:44.039 --> 00:19:45.869 A:middle L:90% might not catch everything and I might not talk to 374 00:19:45.869 --> 00:19:48.059 A:middle L:90% all the important people without some sort of plan. 375 00:19:48.839 --> 00:19:52.000 A:middle L:90% And so what we decided on doing was breaking this 376 00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:55.400 A:middle L:90% up into phases And looking at one step at a 377 00:19:55.400 --> 00:19:56.910 A:middle L:90% time. Um, and so the first phase of 378 00:19:56.910 --> 00:20:00.269 A:middle L:90% our project is to look at physical access here on 379 00:20:00.269 --> 00:20:02.200 A:middle L:90% campus. So what we're doing is we're assessing the 380 00:20:02.210 --> 00:20:04.339 A:middle L:90% buildings first. Um, once we finished with the 381 00:20:04.339 --> 00:20:07.710 A:middle L:90% buildings were going to then talk to the people in 382 00:20:07.710 --> 00:20:10.180 A:middle L:90% the buildings and assess the programs and services that take 383 00:20:10.180 --> 00:20:11.579 A:middle L:90% place within each of those buildings. Now, the 384 00:20:11.579 --> 00:20:15.089 A:middle L:90% reason we're doing it that way is once we've documented 385 00:20:15.089 --> 00:20:18.920 A:middle L:90% everything that we know exists in the building, if 386 00:20:18.930 --> 00:20:21.369 A:middle L:90% any issues or any of the spaces that are more 387 00:20:21.369 --> 00:20:23.309 A:middle L:90% friendly to people with disabilities, when we come to 388 00:20:23.309 --> 00:20:26.380 A:middle L:90% talk to you about how you deliver your program or 389 00:20:26.380 --> 00:20:29.009 A:middle L:90% how do you do your classes? How do you 390 00:20:29.009 --> 00:20:30.329 A:middle L:90% do your labs? We already know the spaces and 391 00:20:30.329 --> 00:20:33.230 A:middle L:90% places that are going to be best to do those 392 00:20:33.230 --> 00:20:34.250 A:middle L:90% kinds of things. So when you say, well 393 00:20:34.250 --> 00:20:36.640 A:middle L:90% , I need a lot of space and my students 394 00:20:36.640 --> 00:20:38.960 A:middle L:90% can walk around and interact with each other and work 395 00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:41.720 A:middle L:90% on a machine that we're building together. We'll already 396 00:20:41.720 --> 00:20:45.390 A:middle L:90% know what spaces can accommodate the educational needs. And 397 00:20:45.390 --> 00:20:48.329 A:middle L:90% also the physical access is. So what we've done 398 00:20:48.329 --> 00:20:51.000 A:middle L:90% is we've decided to split it up, Start with 399 00:20:51.000 --> 00:20:52.730 A:middle L:90% physical access. Go to that programmatic access second and 400 00:20:52.730 --> 00:20:56.289 A:middle L:90% start with the campus here at Virginia Tech. We're 401 00:20:56.289 --> 00:20:59.039 A:middle L:90% doing just that first. Then the next step is 402 00:20:59.039 --> 00:21:00.039 A:middle L:90% to go out to the research park in the other 403 00:21:00.049 --> 00:21:03.150 A:middle L:90% places that we are here in the Blacksburg area and 404 00:21:03.150 --> 00:21:06.470 A:middle L:90% get all of the rest of the spaces um, 405 00:21:06.480 --> 00:21:08.109 A:middle L:90% right around us. Then we're going to go out 406 00:21:08.109 --> 00:21:12.259 A:middle L:90% to the other regions, uh, other satellite campuses 407 00:21:12.269 --> 00:21:14.789 A:middle L:90% . Uh, and the last thing that we're gonna 408 00:21:14.789 --> 00:21:17.180 A:middle L:90% hit are the extension sites, because there's so many 409 00:21:17.190 --> 00:21:19.049 A:middle L:90% of those. Uh But the idea is to systematically 410 00:21:19.049 --> 00:21:22.589 A:middle L:90% go through, look at the space, see what's 411 00:21:22.589 --> 00:21:26.200 A:middle L:90% going on there, how it's used and document any 412 00:21:26.210 --> 00:21:30.069 A:middle L:90% issues that we may find. So what does that 413 00:21:30.069 --> 00:21:33.250 A:middle L:90% look like? Well, here's an example. This 414 00:21:33.250 --> 00:21:37.529 A:middle L:90% is a space on campus that is designed to be 415 00:21:37.529 --> 00:21:42.410 A:middle L:90% used by both faculty and staff. This is used 416 00:21:42.420 --> 00:21:45.589 A:middle L:90% by the School of Visual Arts for one of their 417 00:21:45.589 --> 00:21:51.539 A:middle L:90% programs. Um It's designed to have multiple people using 418 00:21:51.539 --> 00:21:53.849 A:middle L:90% it at one time, and those people can be 419 00:21:53.849 --> 00:21:56.609 A:middle L:90% faculty or staff, so you can have a bunch 420 00:21:56.609 --> 00:21:57.349 A:middle L:90% of faculty and they're doing projects, or you can 421 00:21:57.349 --> 00:22:00.900 A:middle L:90% have students in there doing stuff or you can have 422 00:22:00.900 --> 00:22:03.599 A:middle L:90% a mixture. So take a look at that and 423 00:22:03.599 --> 00:22:07.950 A:middle L:90% see what you think might be initiative. I mean 424 00:22:07.950 --> 00:22:10.400 A:middle L:90% , does anything kind of jump out and look like 425 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:11.349 A:middle L:90% that might be a problem if you had a physical 426 00:22:11.349 --> 00:22:15.769 A:middle L:90% disability? Say you were in a wheelchair or say 427 00:22:15.779 --> 00:22:18.079 A:middle L:90% you were blind. Mhm. Do you see any 428 00:22:18.079 --> 00:22:22.160 A:middle L:90% problems? Part of you Kind of hard to get 429 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:26.779 A:middle L:90% around? Yeah a lot. There's a lot there's 430 00:22:26.789 --> 00:22:32.690 A:middle L:90% it's cramped up so actually there's six things wrong in 431 00:22:32.690 --> 00:22:36.779 A:middle L:90% here. Um The first is that the door doesn't 432 00:22:36.779 --> 00:22:40.150 A:middle L:90% open up wide. Um It's one of those those 433 00:22:40.150 --> 00:22:44.130 A:middle L:90% old time like shopkeeper doors where the top opens and 434 00:22:44.130 --> 00:22:45.740 A:middle L:90% the bottom opens separately. It's got a little ledge 435 00:22:45.740 --> 00:22:48.319 A:middle L:90% that you can do business on. Um But because 436 00:22:48.319 --> 00:22:49.900 A:middle L:90% of that and because they have so much stuff in 437 00:22:49.900 --> 00:22:52.299 A:middle L:90% there the door doesn't open all the way. Um 438 00:22:52.299 --> 00:22:55.259 A:middle L:90% So actually somebody in a wheelchair couldn't even get through 439 00:22:55.259 --> 00:22:59.480 A:middle L:90% the door because it doesn't open up wider. Um 440 00:22:59.490 --> 00:23:03.400 A:middle L:90% They've got to separate printers that work fully functional color 441 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:04.900 A:middle L:90% printers on the floor, so that might be a 442 00:23:04.900 --> 00:23:08.170 A:middle L:90% little hard to get to either if you are using 443 00:23:08.170 --> 00:23:11.190 A:middle L:90% a mobility device or even if you have maybe back 444 00:23:11.190 --> 00:23:14.549 A:middle L:90% problems, I would hate to have to bend over 445 00:23:14.549 --> 00:23:17.200 A:middle L:90% all every day all day to pick up anything that 446 00:23:17.200 --> 00:23:21.089 A:middle L:90% I printed um at the sink there, that's that's 447 00:23:21.089 --> 00:23:22.170 A:middle L:90% used for storage under the sink so that if you 448 00:23:22.170 --> 00:23:23.680 A:middle L:90% were in a wheelchair you wouldn't be able to wheel 449 00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:27.140 A:middle L:90% up and roll under there because you run into the 450 00:23:27.140 --> 00:23:30.299 A:middle L:90% things that they're storing over there. They've got the 451 00:23:30.299 --> 00:23:33.759 A:middle L:90% laminating machine up in the corner of the room, 452 00:23:33.140 --> 00:23:34.980 A:middle L:90% but they have so much stuff in front of it 453 00:23:34.980 --> 00:23:37.390 A:middle L:90% that you can't really get to it unless you dance 454 00:23:37.390 --> 00:23:41.089 A:middle L:90% around the other objects. So overall there's a lot 455 00:23:41.089 --> 00:23:45.170 A:middle L:90% of different things going on in there that people wouldn't 456 00:23:45.170 --> 00:23:49.390 A:middle L:90% necessarily think of. So what we do is we 457 00:23:49.390 --> 00:23:52.579 A:middle L:90% go around and we try to help and assess these 458 00:23:52.579 --> 00:23:53.920 A:middle L:90% things and we've got a couple of things that we 459 00:23:53.920 --> 00:23:56.109 A:middle L:90% do to do that. Um The first is we 460 00:23:56.109 --> 00:24:00.920 A:middle L:90% use this checklist and this is a visual guide to 461 00:24:00.930 --> 00:24:04.450 A:middle L:90% the aid ag or the accessible building standards. The 462 00:24:04.460 --> 00:24:07.309 A:middle L:90% federal building code is all in here. Uh the 463 00:24:07.309 --> 00:24:10.440 A:middle L:90% nice thing about this is it gives you diagrams and 464 00:24:10.440 --> 00:24:12.130 A:middle L:90% it tells you when it's talking about the midline of 465 00:24:12.130 --> 00:24:15.119 A:middle L:90% the toilet or when it's talking about entrance ways, 466 00:24:15.119 --> 00:24:18.490 A:middle L:90% it shows you exactly what it's talking about. So 467 00:24:18.490 --> 00:24:19.529 A:middle L:90% , you know when they're talking about curbs, ramps 468 00:24:19.539 --> 00:24:22.539 A:middle L:90% , all of those different kinds of things, but 469 00:24:22.539 --> 00:24:23.160 A:middle L:90% this is a guy that we use that you can 470 00:24:23.160 --> 00:24:26.990 A:middle L:90% see its well worn from a lot of the assessments 471 00:24:26.990 --> 00:24:29.930 A:middle L:90% that I've done on campus, uh and this this 472 00:24:29.930 --> 00:24:32.849 A:middle L:90% speaks to all of the physical access issues that may 473 00:24:32.849 --> 00:24:34.799 A:middle L:90% occur within a building. Um So this talks about 474 00:24:34.799 --> 00:24:37.440 A:middle L:90% pathways. It talks about bathrooms, it talks about 475 00:24:37.440 --> 00:24:41.440 A:middle L:90% workspaces, it talks about learning spaces, um and 476 00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:45.990 A:middle L:90% how they can be configured to optimize accessibility. Um 477 00:24:45.000 --> 00:24:47.559 A:middle L:90% And then some of the other things that we use 478 00:24:47.559 --> 00:24:48.829 A:middle L:90% are pretty common, Like I use a tape measure 479 00:24:48.829 --> 00:24:52.839 A:middle L:90% a lot just to measure things to see what is 480 00:24:52.839 --> 00:24:55.920 A:middle L:90% the doorway really wide is the doorway big enough? 481 00:24:55.920 --> 00:24:57.670 A:middle L:90% Just the pathway long enough. And the other, 482 00:24:59.039 --> 00:25:00.349 A:middle L:90% the other thing that's kind of interesting about this is 483 00:25:00.839 --> 00:25:03.670 A:middle L:90% so we see these lots of these issues, right 484 00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:07.619 A:middle L:90% ? Um and the first thing that most administrators go 485 00:25:07.619 --> 00:25:08.130 A:middle L:90% is, oh my God, this is gonna cost 486 00:25:08.130 --> 00:25:11.440 A:middle L:90% a boatload of money to fix this problem. Not 487 00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:15.069 A:middle L:90% necessarily true. Most of these issues right here can 488 00:25:15.069 --> 00:25:19.450 A:middle L:90% be fixed free of charge. Um Number one, 489 00:25:21.240 --> 00:25:23.440 A:middle L:90% put it up on the table that's free and it 490 00:25:23.440 --> 00:25:26.339 A:middle L:90% solved your problem. Number two, get rid of 491 00:25:26.339 --> 00:25:29.910 A:middle L:90% the stuff that's behind the door, it'll open all 492 00:25:29.910 --> 00:25:33.829 A:middle L:90% the way. Problem solved. Number three. Turn 493 00:25:33.829 --> 00:25:37.490 A:middle L:90% that machine so that it's underneath the window and facing 494 00:25:37.490 --> 00:25:38.029 A:middle L:90% out and then you don't have anything in front of 495 00:25:38.029 --> 00:25:41.809 A:middle L:90% it. Number four. Put it up on the 496 00:25:41.809 --> 00:25:45.589 A:middle L:90% table. Problem solved. Number five is the bulletin 497 00:25:45.589 --> 00:25:47.869 A:middle L:90% board back there, it's not accessible because it's too 498 00:25:47.869 --> 00:25:48.829 A:middle L:90% high and their stuff in front of it, so 499 00:25:48.829 --> 00:25:52.259 A:middle L:90% move it now and move the stuff out of the 500 00:25:52.259 --> 00:25:53.519 A:middle L:90% way in front of it and number six just take 501 00:25:53.519 --> 00:25:56.859 A:middle L:90% the stuff out from under the counter there. You 502 00:25:56.859 --> 00:25:57.990 A:middle L:90% solved all of the accessibility issues in there and you 503 00:25:57.990 --> 00:26:02.049 A:middle L:90% didn't spend any money. Um So that's kind of 504 00:26:02.049 --> 00:26:03.369 A:middle L:90% the nice thing about this is a lot of this 505 00:26:03.369 --> 00:26:04.440 A:middle L:90% can be solved for no cost to free cost. 506 00:26:04.450 --> 00:26:08.089 A:middle L:90% Uh This is another tool that helps us save countless 507 00:26:08.089 --> 00:26:12.569 A:middle L:90% dollars. Um Lots of people think that doorways are 508 00:26:12.579 --> 00:26:15.269 A:middle L:90% only accessible when they have an automatic push button on 509 00:26:15.839 --> 00:26:19.400 A:middle L:90% , but that's not true. Uh The guidelines for 510 00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:23.490 A:middle L:90% doorways actually relates how much pressure it takes to open 511 00:26:23.490 --> 00:26:26.029 A:middle L:90% and close the door. So this thing is a 512 00:26:26.029 --> 00:26:29.440 A:middle L:90% pressure gauge, and all you do with this is 513 00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:30.950 A:middle L:90% you push it against the door and you open the 514 00:26:30.950 --> 00:26:33.980 A:middle L:90% door with this and it tells you exactly how much 515 00:26:33.980 --> 00:26:36.730 A:middle L:90% pressure it takes to open the door. So a 516 00:26:36.730 --> 00:26:40.619 A:middle L:90% door to be compliant can only require£5 of pressure 517 00:26:40.619 --> 00:26:44.289 A:middle L:90% to open it. Um So the easiest fix for 518 00:26:44.289 --> 00:26:45.099 A:middle L:90% that is any door that has a box at the 519 00:26:45.099 --> 00:26:48.170 A:middle L:90% top of it and an arm attached to it. 520 00:26:48.539 --> 00:26:49.769 A:middle L:90% Uh There's a gauge in there that you can adjust 521 00:26:49.769 --> 00:26:52.769 A:middle L:90% with a screwdriver, uh and you can reduce the 522 00:26:52.769 --> 00:26:57.450 A:middle L:90% pressure free of charge Putting in a power door operator 523 00:26:57.450 --> 00:27:03.900 A:middle L:90% costs anywhere from 8000 to$13,000. So sometimes the 524 00:27:03.900 --> 00:27:07.420 A:middle L:90% things that that first come to mind is the solution 525 00:27:07.430 --> 00:27:10.900 A:middle L:90% are the really expensive ones and it scares administrators and 526 00:27:10.900 --> 00:27:11.740 A:middle L:90% people who do budgets and they say, oh my 527 00:27:11.740 --> 00:27:14.170 A:middle L:90% God, how are we going to comply with this 528 00:27:14.180 --> 00:27:15.210 A:middle L:90% ? A lot of times we can find ways for 529 00:27:15.210 --> 00:27:18.700 A:middle L:90% you to do this cheap and at no cost just 530 00:27:18.700 --> 00:27:22.380 A:middle L:90% by coming out and look. So that's what I 531 00:27:22.380 --> 00:27:22.740 A:middle L:90% do in my job. I come out and I 532 00:27:22.740 --> 00:27:26.430 A:middle L:90% look at these spaces, anybody that has questions about 533 00:27:26.430 --> 00:27:27.390 A:middle L:90% their space, we're happy to come out and look 534 00:27:27.400 --> 00:27:32.490 A:middle L:90% for you um and help talk to you about what 535 00:27:32.490 --> 00:27:33.500 A:middle L:90% you can do in those spaces to make them a 536 00:27:33.500 --> 00:27:37.549 A:middle L:90% little bit more accessible. Does anyone have any questions 537 00:27:38.039 --> 00:27:41.380 A:middle L:90% ? It might be done assessments in all of these 538 00:27:41.380 --> 00:27:45.950 A:middle L:90% individual buildings? Yeah. Quite a collection. Mhm 539 00:27:45.740 --> 00:27:48.049 A:middle L:90% . Lost buildings to see if there are common issues 540 00:27:48.740 --> 00:27:53.980 A:middle L:90% . Yes. We work regularly with the university architects 541 00:27:53.980 --> 00:27:59.049 A:middle L:90% and university planning here on all of the construction and 542 00:27:59.049 --> 00:28:02.359 A:middle L:90% renovation projects that go on on campus. So anytime 543 00:28:02.359 --> 00:28:03.410 A:middle L:90% we build a new building, um we get to 544 00:28:03.410 --> 00:28:06.730 A:middle L:90% see all of the blueprints that are done for those 545 00:28:06.730 --> 00:28:08.859 A:middle L:90% buildings during the design phase so that we can provide 546 00:28:08.859 --> 00:28:12.349 A:middle L:90% comments about accessibility issues, things that may have been 547 00:28:12.349 --> 00:28:17.269 A:middle L:90% missed as the things were being designed and drawn out 548 00:28:17.740 --> 00:28:18.680 A:middle L:90% . And then when it comes to renovations and stuff 549 00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:22.559 A:middle L:90% , when we do our assessments, we work very 550 00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:26.720 A:middle L:90% closely with two architects in particular and university planning to 551 00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:29.099 A:middle L:90% communicate the projects that we find and what can be 552 00:28:29.099 --> 00:28:30.680 A:middle L:90% done. And then they work with us to provide 553 00:28:30.680 --> 00:28:33.410 A:middle L:90% solutions to that if if we have to do structural 554 00:28:33.420 --> 00:28:37.230 A:middle L:90% or outside changes. So we have a landscape architect 555 00:28:37.230 --> 00:28:40.400 A:middle L:90% that we were and we also have a regular structural 556 00:28:40.400 --> 00:28:41.710 A:middle L:90% architect that we work with. So if we have 557 00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:45.990 A:middle L:90% , if we find that there's a doorway that's encased 558 00:28:45.990 --> 00:28:48.029 A:middle L:90% in cement and it's not wide enough, well, 559 00:28:48.029 --> 00:28:49.309 A:middle L:90% they work with us to redesign that and figure out 560 00:28:49.309 --> 00:28:52.079 A:middle L:90% how that can look. If we have to do 561 00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:55.329 A:middle L:90% outside stuff, our landscape architect works with us to 562 00:28:55.329 --> 00:28:57.859 A:middle L:90% make the pathways accessible while also making it look like 563 00:28:57.859 --> 00:29:07.170 A:middle L:90% everything else around that area. That's sure planned assessment 564 00:29:07.180 --> 00:29:12.170 A:middle L:90% with these utilities. Do you have any the fact 565 00:29:12.740 --> 00:29:18.630 A:middle L:90% uses this process, crowdsource approach? A number of 566 00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:23.480 A:middle L:90% facilities global? He has. Yes. We we 567 00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:27.319 A:middle L:90% often talk to people before and after and during our 568 00:29:27.319 --> 00:29:30.950 A:middle L:90% assessments. Um, so when I'm out measuring things 569 00:29:30.950 --> 00:29:32.789 A:middle L:90% , I'll often ask the person who is using the 570 00:29:32.789 --> 00:29:33.359 A:middle L:90% room at the time, what do you think of 571 00:29:33.369 --> 00:29:36.990 A:middle L:90% this? How did this get to be this way 572 00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:38.349 A:middle L:90% ? Who's, who's in charge of this space? 573 00:29:38.359 --> 00:29:41.769 A:middle L:90% Uh, and who decided it should look like this 574 00:29:41.339 --> 00:29:42.730 A:middle L:90% ? Um, and that helps us figure out the 575 00:29:42.730 --> 00:29:45.119 A:middle L:90% right people to talk to, help address some of 576 00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:48.250 A:middle L:90% the problems. The other thing is that we always 577 00:29:48.250 --> 00:29:49.890 A:middle L:90% take information. When people call in, you can 578 00:29:49.890 --> 00:29:52.960 A:middle L:90% always call in and ask us to come and look 579 00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:55.500 A:middle L:90% at something. If you think it's out of compliance 580 00:29:55.500 --> 00:29:56.660 A:middle L:90% or if you think that there's an issue with the 581 00:29:56.660 --> 00:30:00.160 A:middle L:90% program or service that you've got going on, we 582 00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:03.819 A:middle L:90% will come out and do assessment for you if you 583 00:30:03.819 --> 00:30:07.009 A:middle L:90% request it. So we have our own schedule of 584 00:30:07.009 --> 00:30:08.740 A:middle L:90% how we go through the buildings and what, what 585 00:30:08.740 --> 00:30:11.710 A:middle L:90% we look for when. But if you have something 586 00:30:11.710 --> 00:30:12.109 A:middle L:90% you want to point out to us now, please 587 00:30:12.109 --> 00:30:14.720 A:middle L:90% tell us and we'll be happy to come and look 588 00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:15.430 A:middle L:90% at it and talk to you about how to make 589 00:30:15.430 --> 00:30:23.380 A:middle L:90% it right. Thanks everybody. Yeah, I love 590 00:30:23.380 --> 00:30:26.359 A:middle L:90% how different all these topics are. This is great 591 00:30:26.740 --> 00:30:27.690 A:middle L:90% . So my name is Sophia Wenzel and I am 592 00:30:27.690 --> 00:30:30.420 A:middle L:90% with the Department of Population Health Sciences, which is 593 00:30:30.430 --> 00:30:33.900 A:middle L:90% part of that med. That's where the new mph 594 00:30:33.900 --> 00:30:36.390 A:middle L:90% program is located. And I'm at the Center for 595 00:30:36.390 --> 00:30:40.069 A:middle L:90% Public Health Practice and Research. And through my position 596 00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:41.930 A:middle L:90% , I am partly funded by the New River Health 597 00:30:41.940 --> 00:30:45.920 A:middle L:90% District. Um, so a lot of the work 598 00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:48.289 A:middle L:90% I do is in combination with them. So this 599 00:30:48.299 --> 00:30:51.329 A:middle L:90% came out and most of my presentation is really focused 600 00:30:51.329 --> 00:30:52.240 A:middle L:90% on results, but I'll give you just a little 601 00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:56.869 A:middle L:90% bit of the process now. So the Never Health 602 00:30:56.869 --> 00:31:00.289 A:middle L:90% District was funded with a Tobacco use Control prevention program 603 00:31:00.299 --> 00:31:03.269 A:middle L:90% . Um, to do work throughout the New River 604 00:31:03.269 --> 00:31:07.069 A:middle L:90% Health District. Um, Hokey wellness was interested in 605 00:31:07.069 --> 00:31:10.619 A:middle L:90% seeing what people were thinking when it came to tobacco 606 00:31:10.619 --> 00:31:14.589 A:middle L:90% use on campus and the healthy hokey task, healthy 607 00:31:14.589 --> 00:31:17.019 A:middle L:90% hokey task force, which is a bunch of people 608 00:31:17.019 --> 00:31:19.359 A:middle L:90% on campus interested in health. We're also interested. 609 00:31:19.740 --> 00:31:23.910 A:middle L:90% Um, so we developed this survey assessment survey. 610 00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:26.259 A:middle L:90% It's not a scientific tool. We really just wanted 611 00:31:26.259 --> 00:31:30.390 A:middle L:90% a glance to see what people were thinking on campus 612 00:31:30.390 --> 00:31:33.859 A:middle L:90% when it came to tobacco use to potential tobacco policies 613 00:31:33.869 --> 00:31:37.880 A:middle L:90% . Um, so I've got mostly results for you 614 00:31:37.890 --> 00:31:40.220 A:middle L:90% and I'm happy to take questions at the end of 615 00:31:40.220 --> 00:31:42.710 A:middle L:90% course. So, um, we collected the surveys 616 00:31:42.710 --> 00:31:47.039 A:middle L:90% over the summer of 2014. So last summer I 617 00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:48.390 A:middle L:90% worked with a couple of students on this and we 618 00:31:48.390 --> 00:31:52.150 A:middle L:90% got 1000, 269 responses. So, but here 619 00:31:52.150 --> 00:31:55.619 A:middle L:90% you've got a breakdown of, of who answered the 620 00:31:55.619 --> 00:31:56.990 A:middle L:90% survey right here, right here, just screens everywhere 621 00:31:57.000 --> 00:32:00.579 A:middle L:90% . Um We wish we had had more non student 622 00:32:00.579 --> 00:32:04.359 A:middle L:90% wage. This that's just the number of people that 623 00:32:04.359 --> 00:32:07.069 A:middle L:90% responded. So we got this survey out through a 624 00:32:07.069 --> 00:32:08.730 A:middle L:90% whole lot of different mechanisms hasn't. Did anyone here 625 00:32:08.730 --> 00:32:13.049 A:middle L:90% take this survey? Okay. I know. So 626 00:32:13.049 --> 00:32:16.299 A:middle L:90% one person to thank you Alex. Um So obviously 627 00:32:16.299 --> 00:32:19.289 A:middle L:90% , you know not a representative, not a random 628 00:32:19.289 --> 00:32:22.400 A:middle L:90% sample completely. A convenience sample. We sent it 629 00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:23.829 A:middle L:90% out to all the department heads, we went to 630 00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:29.710 A:middle L:90% um dining services to facilities to drop off paper surveys 631 00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:30.700 A:middle L:90% . Um We tried to get in and out as 632 00:32:30.700 --> 00:32:32.170 A:middle L:90% best we could. It was up for about two 633 00:32:32.170 --> 00:32:37.579 A:middle L:90% months Um and the 13,000 employees was counting people everywhere 634 00:32:37.589 --> 00:32:39.740 A:middle L:90% just in case somehow it went out to one of 635 00:32:39.740 --> 00:32:44.890 A:middle L:90% the other campuses. Um So we wanted to know 636 00:32:44.890 --> 00:32:45.819 A:middle L:90% , first of all how many people were responding actually 637 00:32:45.819 --> 00:32:50.119 A:middle L:90% used tobacco. So about 10% of our respondents actually 638 00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:52.990 A:middle L:90% reported that they use tobacco either daily or weekly. 639 00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:55.990 A:middle L:90% Most of them were cigarette smokers. Um, a 640 00:32:57.000 --> 00:33:00.759 A:middle L:90% large percentage had never smoked. Um, and oddly 641 00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:01.859 A:middle L:90% enough, it was just 33 people, but the 642 00:33:01.859 --> 00:33:05.759 A:middle L:90% non student wage employees respondents, respondents, none of 643 00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:07.980 A:middle L:90% them have smoked, which in what we tend to 644 00:33:07.980 --> 00:33:10.829 A:middle L:90% see, just, you know, looking, um 645 00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:14.559 A:middle L:90% , that doesn't seem that it represents that population very 646 00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:15.839 A:middle L:90% well, but that's who answered. So we put 647 00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:19.410 A:middle L:90% it in our results. Um, so we asked 648 00:33:19.410 --> 00:33:22.349 A:middle L:90% them if they thought that universities have a responsibility to 649 00:33:22.349 --> 00:33:25.660 A:middle L:90% lessen the risk of tobacco addiction by adopting policies. 650 00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:30.599 A:middle L:90% Um, so slightly more people thought that, yes 651 00:33:30.609 --> 00:33:34.299 A:middle L:90% , um, universities have a responsibility um specifically for 652 00:33:34.299 --> 00:33:36.539 A:middle L:90% tobacco. And then, um, when we talked 653 00:33:36.539 --> 00:33:38.559 A:middle L:90% about, do universities have a responsibility to adopt policies 654 00:33:38.569 --> 00:33:43.079 A:middle L:90% that ensure people have smoke free air? That was 655 00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:45.549 A:middle L:90% a very no high resounding? Yes. So definitely 656 00:33:45.549 --> 00:33:47.569 A:middle L:90% a difference between the smoking and tobacco use and when 657 00:33:47.569 --> 00:33:52.019 A:middle L:90% we say tobacco, we're talking about smoking of course 658 00:33:52.019 --> 00:33:53.529 A:middle L:90% , but other types of tobaccos, So smokeless tobacco 659 00:33:53.539 --> 00:33:55.690 A:middle L:90% , hookah et cetera. And one of our big 660 00:33:55.690 --> 00:33:59.130 A:middle L:90% limitations here is that we did not ask about e 661 00:33:59.130 --> 00:34:01.099 A:middle L:90% cigarettes. Um I really wish we had because we're 662 00:34:01.099 --> 00:34:04.480 A:middle L:90% seeing more and more of that come up hr recently 663 00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:08.239 A:middle L:90% has had several complaints about people using e cigarettes inside 664 00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:12.039 A:middle L:90% buildings because there is no policy relating to e cigarettes 665 00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:15.210 A:middle L:90% right now. Um and that will be one of 666 00:34:15.219 --> 00:34:17.260 A:middle L:90% um hopefully something that will come out of this. 667 00:34:17.940 --> 00:34:22.570 A:middle L:90% Um So we asked if they thought that students could 668 00:34:22.570 --> 00:34:25.000 A:middle L:90% you should use tobacco on campus, um chew and 669 00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:28.849 A:middle L:90% smoking. So for all of these um more people 670 00:34:28.849 --> 00:34:30.860 A:middle L:90% were likely to be okay with people chewing versus smoking 671 00:34:30.860 --> 00:34:34.159 A:middle L:90% again. That goes back to that, um smoke 672 00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:37.860 A:middle L:90% free air. Um and then the sporting events people 673 00:34:37.869 --> 00:34:40.710 A:middle L:90% , it was a pretty low percentage of the respondents 674 00:34:40.710 --> 00:34:43.809 A:middle L:90% that thought that it was okay to use tobacco. 675 00:34:43.809 --> 00:34:45.510 A:middle L:90% It's sporting events, it's actually at Lane Stadium, 676 00:34:45.510 --> 00:34:49.179 A:middle L:90% at least it's um, it's prohibited, but there 677 00:34:49.179 --> 00:34:51.510 A:middle L:90% are certain spaces, um, smoking is prohibited, 678 00:34:51.510 --> 00:34:53.699 A:middle L:90% not tobacco use, and then there's for specific places 679 00:34:53.699 --> 00:34:57.469 A:middle L:90% where you can go smoke around um around the stadium 680 00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:00.199 A:middle L:90% . So when we ask people if they agreed with 681 00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:01.360 A:middle L:90% the current policy, so the current policy being no 682 00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:06.050 A:middle L:90% smoking within 25 ft of of tech owned buildings. 683 00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:09.010 A:middle L:90% Um 72 agreed with it, 19 disagreed or strongly 684 00:35:09.010 --> 00:35:14.170 A:middle L:90% disagreed. We regret not asking people why they disagreed 685 00:35:14.179 --> 00:35:15.420 A:middle L:90% , because it could be they disagreed because they didn't 686 00:35:15.420 --> 00:35:17.090 A:middle L:90% think there should be a policy, or it could 687 00:35:17.090 --> 00:35:21.050 A:middle L:90% be that they disagreed because they thought the policy was 688 00:35:21.050 --> 00:35:23.659 A:middle L:90% too lenient. So again, we've we've found limitations 689 00:35:23.659 --> 00:35:27.500 A:middle L:90% as you usually do during these things. Um we 690 00:35:27.500 --> 00:35:30.380 A:middle L:90% asked if there should be designated smoking areas on campus 691 00:35:30.380 --> 00:35:31.539 A:middle L:90% . About 60 thought that yes, there should be 692 00:35:31.539 --> 00:35:36.510 A:middle L:90% smoking um designated smoking areas on campus. Again, 693 00:35:36.510 --> 00:35:39.119 A:middle L:90% this was all to assess what we could potentially be 694 00:35:39.130 --> 00:35:45.980 A:middle L:90% doing with all this information. Um So this was 695 00:35:45.989 --> 00:35:47.059 A:middle L:90% the big question. You're trying to figure out of 696 00:35:47.059 --> 00:35:51.940 A:middle L:90% the respondents, would you be in support of a 697 00:35:51.940 --> 00:35:53.590 A:middle L:90% policy of a smoke free policy on campus? So 698 00:35:53.590 --> 00:35:58.889 A:middle L:90% slightly more than um And then 50 agreed with a 699 00:35:58.889 --> 00:36:04.079 A:middle L:90% smoke free policy on campus and um slightly less agreed 700 00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:07.000 A:middle L:90% with having a comprehensive tobacco free policy on campus. 701 00:36:07.010 --> 00:36:07.670 A:middle L:90% So, you know, I work in public health 702 00:36:07.670 --> 00:36:09.369 A:middle L:90% . This was a little bit disappointing for us. 703 00:36:09.369 --> 00:36:12.130 A:middle L:90% We were hoping that there would be a little bit 704 00:36:12.130 --> 00:36:14.389 A:middle L:90% more support, um but at the same time, 705 00:36:14.389 --> 00:36:15.820 A:middle L:90% it's good. This is why you do this type 706 00:36:15.820 --> 00:36:17.800 A:middle L:90% of thing, because it might be that maybe the 707 00:36:17.800 --> 00:36:22.269 A:middle L:90% university, um, community is not ready for a 708 00:36:22.269 --> 00:36:23.219 A:middle L:90% tobacco free policy, but maybe there's something else that 709 00:36:23.219 --> 00:36:29.239 A:middle L:90% we could do and between, for example, so 710 00:36:30.230 --> 00:36:34.289 A:middle L:90% , and this was just assessing if a tobacco free 711 00:36:34.289 --> 00:36:37.550 A:middle L:90% policy would affect someone coming to work at a tech 712 00:36:37.929 --> 00:36:39.610 A:middle L:90% . Um, and basically, we found that wouldn't 713 00:36:39.610 --> 00:36:43.639 A:middle L:90% really affect me working here, um, not would 714 00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:46.340 A:middle L:90% not really affect enrollment. Um, So we thought 715 00:36:46.340 --> 00:36:49.820 A:middle L:90% maybe if there was a policy, faculty would be 716 00:36:49.820 --> 00:36:52.010 A:middle L:90% more likely to come work here. Um, but 717 00:36:52.019 --> 00:36:54.500 A:middle L:90% it was 50, was 50 was, it weren't 718 00:36:54.500 --> 00:36:57.510 A:middle L:90% really influence it. Um, they were taken into 719 00:36:57.510 --> 00:37:00.400 A:middle L:90% consideration, but not a big factor. And, 720 00:37:00.409 --> 00:37:04.980 A:middle L:90% uh, this was just gauging what people's attitudes were 721 00:37:04.989 --> 00:37:07.400 A:middle L:90% . Um, you know, definitely 85 strongly agreed 722 00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:10.519 A:middle L:90% or agreed that tobacco is more negative, negatively viewed 723 00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:14.239 A:middle L:90% now and then 96 agreed. Even a lot of 724 00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:16.000 A:middle L:90% those people that were smokers and that said that they 725 00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:20.159 A:middle L:90% didn't want a policy agreed that breathing secondhand smoke can 726 00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:22.440 A:middle L:90% cause health problems. So at least it's, it's 727 00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:25.730 A:middle L:90% on people's minds. And then we did, um 728 00:37:25.739 --> 00:37:28.829 A:middle L:90% , we had a comment box at the end, 729 00:37:28.829 --> 00:37:30.869 A:middle L:90% so we did a quick qualitative analysis of the top 730 00:37:30.869 --> 00:37:34.869 A:middle L:90% comments, um, just to gauge what people were 731 00:37:34.869 --> 00:37:37.940 A:middle L:90% thinking and no here, you've got, you've got 732 00:37:37.940 --> 00:37:38.480 A:middle L:90% results. Well, yeah, first of all, 733 00:37:38.630 --> 00:37:43.489 A:middle L:90% before we do any sort of Further policy, the 734 00:37:43.489 --> 00:37:45.460 A:middle L:90% policy, the current policies need to be enforced. 735 00:37:45.460 --> 00:37:46.960 A:middle L:90% And I'm sure you've all walked through clouds of smoke 736 00:37:46.969 --> 00:37:51.730 A:middle L:90% going in, going in buildings just because there's a 737 00:37:51.730 --> 00:37:53.130 A:middle L:90% lot of times that 25 ft is not respected. 738 00:37:53.139 --> 00:37:58.039 A:middle L:90% It's also sometimes its faculty and staff and its people 739 00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:00.039 A:middle L:90% coming in from the outside. So like painters that 740 00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:01.019 A:middle L:90% are painting a building and smoking, they're not within 741 00:38:01.019 --> 00:38:06.130 A:middle L:90% 25 ft when they're actually painting. Um and then 742 00:38:06.130 --> 00:38:08.940 A:middle L:90% just, you know, strong support and then strong 743 00:38:08.949 --> 00:38:12.619 A:middle L:90% um, you know, feelings against the policy. 744 00:38:12.630 --> 00:38:15.300 A:middle L:90% We are in southwest Virginia. Um an area that 745 00:38:15.309 --> 00:38:21.000 A:middle L:90% has had a lot of tobacco. Tobacco has been 746 00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:22.559 A:middle L:90% very fruitful in this, in this region. Um 747 00:38:22.570 --> 00:38:24.289 A:middle L:90% so, you know, people talked about Virginia history 748 00:38:24.289 --> 00:38:27.199 A:middle L:90% , they talked about the legality of it. They 749 00:38:27.199 --> 00:38:30.179 A:middle L:90% talked about their freedom to um to smoke, which 750 00:38:30.179 --> 00:38:35.139 A:middle L:90% are all very um very valid concerns. Um, 751 00:38:35.139 --> 00:38:37.619 A:middle L:90% so I talked a little bit about the limitations of 752 00:38:37.630 --> 00:38:39.809 A:middle L:90% this. It was not a representative sample. We 753 00:38:39.809 --> 00:38:42.849 A:middle L:90% conducted it over the summer, which makes us think 754 00:38:42.849 --> 00:38:45.400 A:middle L:90% that there was a lot less um non student wage 755 00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:46.780 A:middle L:90% employees than there would have been at another time during 756 00:38:46.780 --> 00:38:51.250 A:middle L:90% the year. And this is something that HR we 757 00:38:51.250 --> 00:38:52.429 A:middle L:90% presented this to HR and they would have like to 758 00:38:52.429 --> 00:38:57.219 A:middle L:90% know what type of faculty that was a p research 759 00:38:57.219 --> 00:39:01.500 A:middle L:90% instructional etcetera. And um yeah, so that's that's 760 00:39:01.510 --> 00:39:04.039 A:middle L:90% the end of it. So I'll just tell you 761 00:39:04.039 --> 00:39:07.039 A:middle L:90% what what we've done so far. We've presented this 762 00:39:07.050 --> 00:39:10.130 A:middle L:90% to HR and hokey wellness and the healthy hokey task 763 00:39:10.130 --> 00:39:15.159 A:middle L:90% force. Um We have given them all these results 764 00:39:15.170 --> 00:39:20.309 A:middle L:90% and healthy hokey task force is moving forward with whatever 765 00:39:20.309 --> 00:39:22.130 A:middle L:90% they're gonna do. We don't know exactly what that 766 00:39:22.139 --> 00:39:23.750 A:middle L:90% is yet. I don't think they know exactly what 767 00:39:23.750 --> 00:39:27.010 A:middle L:90% that is. I think they needed this just to 768 00:39:27.010 --> 00:39:30.909 A:middle L:90% be able to um to be more informed moving forward 769 00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:32.519 A:middle L:90% . If we do in fact want to suggest the 770 00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:36.090 A:middle L:90% tobacco free policy, we know there might be more 771 00:39:36.090 --> 00:39:38.500 A:middle L:90% resistance than for example, maybe starting with designated smoking 772 00:39:38.500 --> 00:39:40.800 A:middle L:90% areas are starting with a smoke free policy, for 773 00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:44.710 A:middle L:90% example, or maybe including e cigarettes in there. 774 00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:45.769 A:middle L:90% Um, So I think if anything that helped us 775 00:39:45.769 --> 00:39:49.079 A:middle L:90% see that it might need to be more baby steps 776 00:39:49.079 --> 00:39:51.880 A:middle L:90% than, you know, gung ho. But there 777 00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:53.440 A:middle L:90% is a movement in southwest Virginia right now to go 778 00:39:53.440 --> 00:39:58.110 A:middle L:90% tobacco free. There's schools from, from tech all 779 00:39:58.110 --> 00:39:59.719 A:middle L:90% the way down west, we're working with U. 780 00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:00.719 A:middle L:90% V. A. Wise, um, a bunch 781 00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:04.880 A:middle L:90% of places in between um that want to go smoke 782 00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:06.789 A:middle L:90% free. So Radford is well on its way, 783 00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:08.210 A:middle L:90% jefferson College of Health Sciences and roanoke has gone smoke 784 00:40:08.210 --> 00:40:10.590 A:middle L:90% free. It's easier for them because they are associated 785 00:40:10.590 --> 00:40:15.119 A:middle L:90% with Carilion. Um, so, so there's work 786 00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:20.730 A:middle L:90% being done. Not sure when how who, but 787 00:40:21.110 --> 00:40:24.239 A:middle L:90% hopefully in the process. So I'll take questions. 788 00:40:28.409 --> 00:40:30.230 A:middle L:90% Yes. But the other university happened and now whether 789 00:40:30.610 --> 00:40:35.019 A:middle L:90% there when they think completely tobacco tobacco free or are 790 00:40:35.019 --> 00:40:39.840 A:middle L:90% they allowing the so right now, when you say 791 00:40:39.849 --> 00:40:44.440 A:middle L:90% a comprehensive tobacco policy, it includes e cigarettes, 792 00:40:44.440 --> 00:40:47.139 A:middle L:90% it's not technically tobacco in e cigarettes, it's nicotine 793 00:40:47.150 --> 00:40:52.150 A:middle L:90% . But when we work with universities or were, 794 00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:53.219 A:middle L:90% you know, we've been working with businesses around the 795 00:40:53.219 --> 00:40:57.800 A:middle L:90% area to to have them adopt comprehensive tobacco free policies 796 00:40:57.800 --> 00:41:00.139 A:middle L:90% and that does include e cigarettes. And I'm hoping 797 00:41:00.139 --> 00:41:02.920 A:middle L:90% that whatever happens at tech, that that could be 798 00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:08.289 A:middle L:90% included maybe even before other things. Yeah. Any 799 00:41:08.289 --> 00:41:15.860 A:middle L:90% other questions? Thank you. Just, just the 800 00:41:15.860 --> 00:41:20.750 A:middle L:90% current policy, like 25. It does not. 801 00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:22.320 A:middle L:90% There is nothing about your cigarettes in the current policy 802 00:41:22.809 --> 00:41:27.480 A:middle L:90% . So technically people can light up an e cigarette 803 00:41:27.489 --> 00:41:29.010 A:middle L:90% in the middle of the building and not be in 804 00:41:29.010 --> 00:41:31.210 A:middle L:90% violation of tech policies. Is there such a thing 805 00:41:31.210 --> 00:41:37.559 A:middle L:90% as like there's a vapor? Yeah. So there's 806 00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:39.949 A:middle L:90% a vapor that comes out and um proponents of it 807 00:41:39.949 --> 00:41:44.710 A:middle L:90% say that it's a perfectly safe water vapor, but 808 00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:47.150 A:middle L:90% research has shown that there's actually, um, chemicals 809 00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:55.420 A:middle L:90% that come out in the paper. Yeah. This 810 00:41:55.420 --> 00:41:58.199 A:middle L:90% is slightly on her later. But do you know 811 00:41:58.210 --> 00:42:00.849 A:middle L:90% , there are consequences to violate? That's that's the 812 00:42:00.849 --> 00:42:04.260 A:middle L:90% other thing, not that I know of, So 813 00:42:04.260 --> 00:42:07.820 A:middle L:90% john fridge, who's the health educator um, was 814 00:42:07.829 --> 00:42:09.059 A:middle L:90% telling us basically, first of all, it's not 815 00:42:09.059 --> 00:42:12.179 A:middle L:90% really enforced. And then second of all, I 816 00:42:12.179 --> 00:42:15.019 A:middle L:90% think it's more like, please don't smoke here, 817 00:42:15.030 --> 00:42:15.809 A:middle L:90% and that's it. Um, so I think, 818 00:42:15.809 --> 00:42:19.719 A:middle L:90% you know, before anything, before going further, 819 00:42:19.730 --> 00:42:21.670 A:middle L:90% um, that's something that really needs to be taken 820 00:42:21.670 --> 00:42:23.670 A:middle L:90% into consideration is what's being done. How are reinforcing 821 00:42:23.670 --> 00:42:25.590 A:middle L:90% what we have now? Do we really want to 822 00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:28.719 A:middle L:90% , you know, start this whole policy and then 823 00:42:28.730 --> 00:42:30.719 A:middle L:90% it's not gonna be enforced? So what's the point 824 00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:31.610 A:middle L:90% ? And then, who's going to enforce it, 825 00:42:31.610 --> 00:42:42.420 A:middle L:90% etcetera? All right, thank you. My name 826 00:42:42.420 --> 00:42:45.889 A:middle L:90% is Jack Evans. I'm from the Department of Biological 827 00:42:45.889 --> 00:42:51.230 A:middle L:90% Sciences and I teach enormous courses at the freshman level 828 00:42:51.699 --> 00:42:54.250 A:middle L:90% Were between 300 and 500. I forgot I can't 829 00:42:54.250 --> 00:42:59.090 A:middle L:90% walk around. You can put me on a leash 830 00:42:59.090 --> 00:43:04.179 A:middle L:90% is killing me. Ah So a couple years ago 831 00:43:04.190 --> 00:43:05.739 A:middle L:90% , give or take, I forget what it was 832 00:43:05.750 --> 00:43:08.530 A:middle L:90% . My associate department head Came into my office and 833 00:43:08.530 --> 00:43:10.570 A:middle L:90% said, Jack, we just got a grant of 834 00:43:10.579 --> 00:43:14.940 A:middle L:90% 48 grand and we want to change the way we 835 00:43:14.949 --> 00:43:16.110 A:middle L:90% do our lectures. And he said, you have 836 00:43:16.110 --> 00:43:17.909 A:middle L:90% any ideas how we can make that happen. And 837 00:43:17.909 --> 00:43:21.289 A:middle L:90% said, yeah, that's easy. We give these 838 00:43:21.289 --> 00:43:22.349 A:middle L:90% students something to do. And said something to learn 839 00:43:23.489 --> 00:43:25.389 A:middle L:90% . And he looked at me like I was crazy 840 00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:28.019 A:middle L:90% . He said, what do you mean by that 841 00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:30.690 A:middle L:90% ? And It's an actual classroom. We want them 842 00:43:30.690 --> 00:43:34.269 A:middle L:90% to actually have to think when they come in and 843 00:43:34.269 --> 00:43:35.750 A:middle L:90% see us. I don't want to have to stay 844 00:43:35.750 --> 00:43:37.650 A:middle L:90% in front of the classroom for 75 minutes. And 845 00:43:37.650 --> 00:43:40.369 A:middle L:90% then what what what what what what what what what 846 00:43:40.380 --> 00:43:43.949 A:middle L:90% what and put some students to sleep and have them 847 00:43:43.949 --> 00:43:45.539 A:middle L:90% go away. And when they come on an exam 848 00:43:45.539 --> 00:43:47.460 A:middle L:90% day, they may or may not know what's going 849 00:43:47.460 --> 00:43:51.670 A:middle L:90% on. So we took our class and we turned 850 00:43:51.670 --> 00:43:53.489 A:middle L:90% it up all our freshman lectures and turn them upside 851 00:43:53.489 --> 00:44:00.690 A:middle L:90% down. And so typically when we're doing lectures were 852 00:44:00.690 --> 00:44:05.250 A:middle L:90% exposing students to brand new material that debt and we 853 00:44:05.250 --> 00:44:07.199 A:middle L:90% talk and talk and talk and they may get it 854 00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:08.110 A:middle L:90% and they may not and they walk out the door 855 00:44:08.789 --> 00:44:12.760 A:middle L:90% in the flip classroom, we provide that information to 856 00:44:12.769 --> 00:44:16.420 A:middle L:90% them online lectures before they come to class and then 857 00:44:16.420 --> 00:44:19.989 A:middle L:90% they have to take an online quiz before they come 858 00:44:19.989 --> 00:44:22.210 A:middle L:90% to class. And then when we get in class 859 00:44:22.889 --> 00:44:25.579 A:middle L:90% , That's when all hell breaks loose. And we 860 00:44:25.590 --> 00:44:29.820 A:middle L:90% divide 220 students up into groups of about three or 861 00:44:29.820 --> 00:44:35.099 A:middle L:90% 4 and they do activists. And the whole time 862 00:44:35.789 --> 00:44:38.889 A:middle L:90% I am, the undergraduate teaching assistants are cruising around 863 00:44:38.889 --> 00:44:44.260 A:middle L:90% the groups to make sure they are on task and 864 00:44:44.260 --> 00:44:46.400 A:middle L:90% know what they're doing. Now. When we started 865 00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:49.429 A:middle L:90% out, our original goal was to do no harm 866 00:44:50.389 --> 00:44:52.289 A:middle L:90% . We didn't want to take our lectures that had 867 00:44:52.300 --> 00:44:58.230 A:middle L:90% average GPA s of 2.5 or six or whatever And 868 00:44:58.230 --> 00:45:00.030 A:middle L:90% then assess them at the end of the flip classroom 869 00:45:00.030 --> 00:45:04.289 A:middle L:90% and see everybody had a 1.5. So we wanted 870 00:45:04.289 --> 00:45:07.230 A:middle L:90% to go in with that idea of, let's just 871 00:45:07.230 --> 00:45:08.110 A:middle L:90% make sure we don't screw anybody up too bad. 872 00:45:09.289 --> 00:45:13.679 A:middle L:90% Uh and so the idea here with doing all these 873 00:45:13.690 --> 00:45:16.489 A:middle L:90% different things is we're providing the students many more opportunities 874 00:45:16.500 --> 00:45:23.250 A:middle L:90% to learn the material and when our hopes which information 875 00:45:23.250 --> 00:45:27.139 A:middle L:90% we don't have at this point is they will port 876 00:45:27.139 --> 00:45:30.730 A:middle L:90% that information into the sophomore and junior and senior level 877 00:45:30.739 --> 00:45:36.480 A:middle L:90% biology forces saving us time from sitting in a 4000 878 00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:38.250 A:middle L:90% level course and saying, if you remember from freshman 879 00:45:38.250 --> 00:45:43.760 A:middle L:90% biology And spending 15, 20 minutes talking about something 880 00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:46.920 A:middle L:90% they should already know. And so again, what 881 00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:51.389 A:middle L:90% we're trying to do is increase the knowledge base here 882 00:45:51.570 --> 00:45:52.239 A:middle L:90% . And so why did we do it? And 883 00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:55.300 A:middle L:90% it's easy if we look up here, um, 884 00:45:58.489 --> 00:46:02.019 A:middle L:90% in the typical lecture, they're being exposed to brand 885 00:46:02.019 --> 00:46:05.889 A:middle L:90% new stuff here. The lower end of our friend 886 00:46:05.889 --> 00:46:09.489 A:middle L:90% Williams tacks on and the rest of the time they 887 00:46:09.489 --> 00:46:13.989 A:middle L:90% are supposed to be applying this, analyzing it, 888 00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:16.480 A:middle L:90% figured it out on their own. Okay. Works 889 00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:21.099 A:middle L:90% for me. Doesn't necessarily work for the students, 890 00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:23.969 A:middle L:90% but that's what it said. So what were you 891 00:46:23.980 --> 00:46:29.079 A:middle L:90% doing is provided again the lectures to them before they 892 00:46:29.090 --> 00:46:32.050 A:middle L:90% come to class when they come to class, That's 893 00:46:32.050 --> 00:46:37.530 A:middle L:90% when little pointers that work. We are actually charging 894 00:46:37.530 --> 00:46:42.369 A:middle L:90% the students with thinking, figuring stuff out. And 895 00:46:42.369 --> 00:46:45.489 A:middle L:90% we spend Typically I teach a 75 minute class, 896 00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:51.289 A:middle L:90% Probably about 60 minutes is involved in the activity, 897 00:46:51.300 --> 00:46:57.059 A:middle L:90% 220 students in the active. So the idea here 898 00:46:57.070 --> 00:46:59.989 A:middle L:90% is it's practice practice practice, right? That's how 899 00:46:59.989 --> 00:47:01.099 A:middle L:90% it works. That's how we learned to walk, 900 00:47:01.110 --> 00:47:02.679 A:middle L:90% right? That's how we learned to go to the 901 00:47:02.690 --> 00:47:06.710 A:middle L:90% bathroom and the toilet when we were little tiny because 902 00:47:06.710 --> 00:47:07.900 A:middle L:90% we practice it over and over and over and over 903 00:47:09.179 --> 00:47:14.179 A:middle L:90% . Education works the same way. And when we're 904 00:47:14.179 --> 00:47:15.719 A:middle L:90% doing in the active classroom, we give them a 905 00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:19.550 A:middle L:90% lecture before they come to class with him, a 906 00:47:19.550 --> 00:47:22.760 A:middle L:90% quiz. Before they come to class. From that 907 00:47:22.769 --> 00:47:24.329 A:middle L:90% quiz we make a little mini lecturer. So the 908 00:47:24.340 --> 00:47:28.619 A:middle L:90% quizzes do I teach on Tuesday and Thursdays? The 909 00:47:28.619 --> 00:47:30.670 A:middle L:90% quizzes do they have to have it completed by midnight 910 00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:34.340 A:middle L:90% the night before class. And then I go into 911 00:47:34.340 --> 00:47:35.920 A:middle L:90% my office in the morning and I look at the 912 00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:37.539 A:middle L:90% results and say okay they have a problem with this 913 00:47:37.539 --> 00:47:40.369 A:middle L:90% concept, this concept in this concept and that's what 914 00:47:40.369 --> 00:47:44.110 A:middle L:90% I make a mini lecture And then we get into 915 00:47:44.110 --> 00:47:46.730 A:middle L:90% the classroom and I spend 15 minutes or so going 916 00:47:46.730 --> 00:47:49.610 A:middle L:90% over my mini lecturer of things. I know they're 917 00:47:49.610 --> 00:47:52.389 A:middle L:90% going to have issues with and then we open it 918 00:47:52.389 --> 00:47:55.329 A:middle L:90% up to the class and active. And so I've 919 00:47:55.340 --> 00:48:02.730 A:middle L:90% got 11 groups and each group has a UTA assigned 920 00:48:02.739 --> 00:48:06.679 A:middle L:90% to them and their 20 students in each trip. 921 00:48:06.690 --> 00:48:08.420 A:middle L:90% And then those groups break down into sub groups of 922 00:48:08.420 --> 00:48:10.929 A:middle L:90% three or four and that's how they do the activity 923 00:48:10.940 --> 00:48:14.489 A:middle L:90% . They finished their activity. They put their names 924 00:48:14.489 --> 00:48:16.090 A:middle L:90% on them and they send it to me via scalp 925 00:48:16.670 --> 00:48:20.440 A:middle L:90% . Yeah. And then of course we have I 926 00:48:20.440 --> 00:48:22.690 A:middle L:90% clicker questions at the end of the mini lectures. 927 00:48:22.690 --> 00:48:25.789 A:middle L:90% So again, it gives me the opportunity to be 928 00:48:25.789 --> 00:48:28.360 A:middle L:90% able to look at the results when I get back 929 00:48:28.360 --> 00:48:30.000 A:middle L:90% into my office and say, okay, they're getting 930 00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:34.230 A:middle L:90% this now and if not, it's something I can 931 00:48:34.239 --> 00:48:39.510 A:middle L:90% talk about again at some point. So what we 932 00:48:39.510 --> 00:48:44.119 A:middle L:90% see here in the active classroom is we got a 933 00:48:44.130 --> 00:48:49.099 A:middle L:90% gazillion different opportunities for them actually to process this information 934 00:48:49.250 --> 00:48:52.780 A:middle L:90% and start to cruise up, bloom's taxonomy instead of 935 00:48:52.780 --> 00:48:57.010 A:middle L:90% hanging down and they understand and comprehend. Now when 936 00:48:57.010 --> 00:48:59.789 A:middle L:90% we look at the lecture, the traditional lecture world 937 00:49:00.269 --> 00:49:02.289 A:middle L:90% , we got two gigs to assess what's going on 938 00:49:02.969 --> 00:49:07.530 A:middle L:90% , Meet yapping for 75 minutes and then I'm taking 939 00:49:07.869 --> 00:49:10.349 A:middle L:90% an exam, so not so much. Not so 940 00:49:10.349 --> 00:49:15.320 A:middle L:90% many opportunities to have our students get the information that 941 00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:19.880 A:middle L:90% we would like them. Now there's a bonus here 942 00:49:19.889 --> 00:49:23.050 A:middle L:90% too. This is, yeah, the very first 943 00:49:23.050 --> 00:49:28.099 A:middle L:90% day, this semester of my foot plaster lets me 944 00:49:28.099 --> 00:49:29.690 A:middle L:90% way in the back right there. And so the 945 00:49:29.699 --> 00:49:34.079 A:middle L:90% bonuses actually work with students. Ooh, that's why 946 00:49:34.079 --> 00:49:35.699 A:middle L:90% we're all here at the other towers. Right? 947 00:49:36.230 --> 00:49:39.050 A:middle L:90% But, but I would argue there are a handful 948 00:49:39.050 --> 00:49:43.929 A:middle L:90% of those, not so much, But when I 949 00:49:43.929 --> 00:49:45.590 A:middle L:90% first got here, I taught laboratories that have 20 950 00:49:45.590 --> 00:49:49.730 A:middle L:90% students in it. I absolutely loved it because I 951 00:49:49.730 --> 00:49:51.699 A:middle L:90% got to know everybody on a first name basis. 952 00:49:51.699 --> 00:49:53.610 A:middle L:90% I knew where issues were and where they weren't and 953 00:49:53.610 --> 00:49:57.909 A:middle L:90% I could point um, my energy in an appropriate 954 00:49:57.920 --> 00:50:00.230 A:middle L:90% direction. We're doing the very same thing here. 955 00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:04.389 A:middle L:90% Except I don't have students 20 anymore. I've got 956 00:50:04.389 --> 00:50:07.349 A:middle L:90% students of 250 275. I teach a class of 957 00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:12.769 A:middle L:90% 500 from time. So what are we looking for 958 00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:15.489 A:middle L:90% ? Well, when we started out, we wanted 959 00:50:15.489 --> 00:50:20.170 A:middle L:90% to correlate, um, some traditional grades with flipped 960 00:50:20.170 --> 00:50:22.960 A:middle L:90% classroom grades. So, and we'll talk about those 961 00:50:22.969 --> 00:50:24.889 A:middle L:90% outcomes in a minute. And again, the whole 962 00:50:24.889 --> 00:50:27.989 A:middle L:90% idea here was to not do any harm. We 963 00:50:27.989 --> 00:50:30.280 A:middle L:90% didn't do anything wrong. Now with this, this 964 00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:32.400 A:middle L:90% slipped classroom, we also want to know what the 965 00:50:32.400 --> 00:50:36.800 A:middle L:90% students thought about it. Are they enjoying what's going 966 00:50:36.800 --> 00:50:37.610 A:middle L:90% on here? Did they like the new way of 967 00:50:37.610 --> 00:50:44.269 A:middle L:90% us presenting this information? And are they better prepared 968 00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:45.199 A:middle L:90% ? That's one of our major goals. To are 969 00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:47.960 A:middle L:90% they really better prepared to go into my sophomore level 970 00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:52.079 A:middle L:90% biology courses than they were when we were doing lecture 971 00:50:52.090 --> 00:50:54.670 A:middle L:90% . That information we don't have yet. This is 972 00:50:54.679 --> 00:50:58.889 A:middle L:90% a longitudinal study as well. So as soon as 973 00:50:58.889 --> 00:51:01.369 A:middle L:90% our students are biologists to get into the software mandatory 974 00:51:01.369 --> 00:51:05.389 A:middle L:90% software level courses, we'll start looking at their grades 975 00:51:05.389 --> 00:51:08.800 A:middle L:90% as well And we'll get obviously get feedback from the 976 00:51:08.809 --> 00:51:12.420 A:middle L:90% fact that they're teaching it. So when we look 977 00:51:12.420 --> 00:51:15.000 A:middle L:90% at the numbers here, we had three traditional courses 978 00:51:15.010 --> 00:51:19.940 A:middle L:90% that had about 170 students per, And we had 979 00:51:19.949 --> 00:51:22.989 A:middle L:90% three flipped classes that had about 180 car in. 980 00:51:23.659 --> 00:51:25.730 A:middle L:90% And so at the end of the semester, a 981 00:51:25.739 --> 00:51:29.030 A:middle L:90% quick and dirty look at the average G. P 982 00:51:29.030 --> 00:51:31.630 A:middle L:90% . A. S. Was 2.5. Um In 983 00:51:31.630 --> 00:51:35.429 A:middle L:90% the traditional classes, which is pretty typical for our 984 00:51:35.429 --> 00:51:38.329 A:middle L:90% students In the flipped classroom, It was a little 985 00:51:38.329 --> 00:51:42.530 A:middle L:90% bit hot. It was two it just in the 986 00:51:42.539 --> 00:51:45.239 A:middle L:90% first semester. And remember in the first semester of 987 00:51:45.250 --> 00:51:46.480 A:middle L:90% doing it, this was brand new to everybody. 988 00:51:47.159 --> 00:51:51.510 A:middle L:90% So we all were just kind of feeling our way 989 00:51:51.510 --> 00:51:53.070 A:middle L:90% around in the dark trying to figure this out. 990 00:51:53.460 --> 00:51:57.059 A:middle L:90% But still if we can if there is any value 991 00:51:57.059 --> 00:52:00.469 A:middle L:90% in looking at Gps alone, we can see that 992 00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:04.500 A:middle L:90% we didn't do anything. So that's a these quotes 993 00:52:04.500 --> 00:52:08.550 A:middle L:90% down here actually some qualitative information that our students gave 994 00:52:08.550 --> 00:52:12.760 A:middle L:90% us when we asked them about stuff. So we 995 00:52:12.760 --> 00:52:15.449 A:middle L:90% asked him about working as a team. So sharing 996 00:52:15.449 --> 00:52:19.699 A:middle L:90% information makes the whole experience more dynamic. I mean 997 00:52:19.699 --> 00:52:22.670 A:middle L:90% this is just a quote straight from the kids themselves 998 00:52:23.050 --> 00:52:27.070 A:middle L:90% . And so if we looked at the numbers We 999 00:52:27.070 --> 00:52:30.880 A:middle L:90% saw that 60 were pretty happy about it. We're 1000 00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:32.900 A:middle L:90% really, really happy about it. We had 25% 1001 00:52:32.900 --> 00:52:36.329 A:middle L:90% . Give or take. You know, lived without 1002 00:52:36.329 --> 00:52:38.010 A:middle L:90% it or doesn't really matter. And then of course 1003 00:52:38.010 --> 00:52:40.980 A:middle L:90% we had 15 or just oh my gosh, this 1004 00:52:40.980 --> 00:52:45.059 A:middle L:90% is the worst thing in the world. So those 1005 00:52:45.059 --> 00:52:45.880 A:middle L:90% are some of the numbers. We looked at their 1006 00:52:46.250 --> 00:52:51.289 A:middle L:90% we also looked at the pretty quizzes and I found 1007 00:52:51.289 --> 00:52:54.480 A:middle L:90% these numbers to be interesting. We had 65 of 1008 00:52:54.480 --> 00:52:57.289 A:middle L:90% our student population and said, yeah, they were 1009 00:52:57.289 --> 00:53:00.960 A:middle L:90% helpful And then we had 35 to 7. Yeah 1010 00:53:00.969 --> 00:53:02.150 A:middle L:90% , they weren't helpful. I can't wrap my brain 1011 00:53:02.150 --> 00:53:06.349 A:middle L:90% around. That's like we give you this information, 1012 00:53:06.360 --> 00:53:08.960 A:middle L:90% we put it on here, It's gonna be on 1013 00:53:08.960 --> 00:53:10.880 A:middle L:90% the exam. You might want to learn it. 1014 00:53:12.949 --> 00:53:15.210 A:middle L:90% Yeah. So in one of our students that of 1015 00:53:15.210 --> 00:53:19.139 A:middle L:90% course forced me to actually, you know, other 1016 00:53:19.139 --> 00:53:20.829 A:middle L:90% than just write down, I had to learn. 1017 00:53:21.010 --> 00:53:23.639 A:middle L:90% Heaven forbid. All right, listen to learn. 1018 00:53:23.639 --> 00:53:30.400 A:middle L:90% I'm almost um so one of the things we did 1019 00:53:30.409 --> 00:53:32.019 A:middle L:90% find with the numbers, we're looking at both qualitative 1020 00:53:32.019 --> 00:53:36.059 A:middle L:90% and quantitative is that we really didn't didn't do any 1021 00:53:36.070 --> 00:53:38.900 A:middle L:90% harm. And to the greater population of course, 1022 00:53:38.909 --> 00:53:42.579 A:middle L:90% and most of the students uh like what they were 1023 00:53:42.590 --> 00:53:46.739 A:middle L:90% doing um from the first semester we did it our 1024 00:53:46.739 --> 00:53:50.860 A:middle L:90% students told us that the online lectures that we provided 1025 00:53:50.869 --> 00:53:52.679 A:middle L:90% were too long. So well that's easy enough just 1026 00:53:52.679 --> 00:53:57.010 A:middle L:90% shortening and still have the same apartment information in there 1027 00:53:57.010 --> 00:54:00.269 A:middle L:90% that we feel like they need to have said the 1028 00:54:00.269 --> 00:54:04.250 A:middle L:90% same thing about the assignments. So you know, 1029 00:54:04.250 --> 00:54:06.369 A:middle L:90% if you got a 60 minute period and they've got 1030 00:54:06.369 --> 00:54:09.510 A:middle L:90% to get these assignments done in the classroom and then 1031 00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:15.289 A:middle L:90% upload them on scholar and what we found was they 1032 00:54:15.300 --> 00:54:16.639 A:middle L:90% told us this and we saw it as well. 1033 00:54:16.639 --> 00:54:21.360 A:middle L:90% They were not quite getting done or starting to freak 1034 00:54:21.360 --> 00:54:22.750 A:middle L:90% out. Oh my God, there's only five minutes 1035 00:54:22.750 --> 00:54:24.449 A:middle L:90% left and say okay we're all in a group, 1036 00:54:24.449 --> 00:54:27.199 A:middle L:90% you do number three, you do number four and 1037 00:54:27.320 --> 00:54:30.010 A:middle L:90% number two. And it's like, wow that's really 1038 00:54:30.010 --> 00:54:31.250 A:middle L:90% not what we're looking for because it's no longer a 1039 00:54:31.250 --> 00:54:36.010 A:middle L:90% group activity. So you shorten those activities to put 1040 00:54:36.010 --> 00:54:37.409 A:middle L:90% them in a more doable time so that students could 1041 00:54:37.409 --> 00:54:40.530 A:middle L:90% feel comfortable with actually being able to sit in, 1042 00:54:40.530 --> 00:54:44.360 A:middle L:90% Yap about stuff and figure out how it was working 1043 00:54:45.019 --> 00:54:49.710 A:middle L:90% . This one is probably the most important. Be 1044 00:54:49.719 --> 00:54:54.809 A:middle L:90% careful of the Burbage one uses my colleagues that were 1045 00:54:54.820 --> 00:54:59.940 A:middle L:90% I talked the traditional class, first semester smith and 1046 00:54:59.940 --> 00:55:02.599 A:middle L:90% my colleagues taught the flip class and so we had 1047 00:55:02.599 --> 00:55:05.980 A:middle L:90% to get consent from all the students of course. 1048 00:55:05.989 --> 00:55:07.630 A:middle L:90% So on day one, my colleagues went in and 1049 00:55:07.630 --> 00:55:15.530 A:middle L:90% said you guys are part of an experimental course and 1050 00:55:15.530 --> 00:55:19.570 A:middle L:90% life was over after that being in this year when 1051 00:55:19.570 --> 00:55:22.110 A:middle L:90% we asked for data, we didn't even bother telling 1052 00:55:22.110 --> 00:55:22.820 A:middle L:90% me it was an experiment. Of course there's really 1053 00:55:22.820 --> 00:55:25.800 A:middle L:90% not. And experience, Yes, we were looking 1054 00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:30.269 A:middle L:90% at data, but we're we manipulating students, but 1055 00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:32.630 A:middle L:90% they just thought they were, you know, lab 1056 00:55:32.630 --> 00:55:38.389 A:middle L:90% rats in an experiment. That's right. Um let's 1057 00:55:38.389 --> 00:55:43.630 A:middle L:90% see what else, Just more stuff in their own 1058 00:55:43.639 --> 00:55:49.900 A:middle L:90% words. And I found this interesting because there's a 1059 00:55:49.900 --> 00:55:52.090 A:middle L:90% lot of Dui in here, if anyone knows who 1060 00:55:52.090 --> 00:55:55.909 A:middle L:90% he is, but you know, prior knowledge and 1061 00:55:55.920 --> 00:56:00.409 A:middle L:90% being reinforced and critical thinking exercises, you know, 1062 00:56:00.409 --> 00:56:01.019 A:middle L:90% when I read those kind of things, you get 1063 00:56:01.019 --> 00:56:04.880 A:middle L:90% all tingly because that's exactly what you wanted to see 1064 00:56:04.889 --> 00:56:07.480 A:middle L:90% happen. And so where there were their students that 1065 00:56:07.480 --> 00:56:09.309 A:middle L:90% were not happy with what went, I'm sure, 1066 00:56:09.320 --> 00:56:15.429 A:middle L:90% but that's it's always right. But so far the 1067 00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:17.969 A:middle L:90% data has shown us that we have, we're keeping 1068 00:56:17.980 --> 00:56:23.309 A:middle L:90% the masses happy and we're in turn making ourselves happy 1069 00:56:23.309 --> 00:56:27.500 A:middle L:90% because we think it's a much better learning experience for 1070 00:56:27.500 --> 00:56:31.519 A:middle L:90% the students. I believe that result, yep. 1071 00:56:31.690 --> 00:56:36.110 A:middle L:90% Any questions concerns Kwan dreams? Yes sir, you 1072 00:56:36.110 --> 00:56:43.880 A:middle L:90% talk about mechanics platforms. Yeah, How long they 1073 00:56:43.889 --> 00:56:49.849 A:middle L:90% , Yeah, there is so much behind the scenes 1074 00:56:49.849 --> 00:56:52.389 A:middle L:90% stuff that goes on to make this happen in the 1075 00:56:52.400 --> 00:56:58.539 A:middle L:90% classroom is crazy. So the summer before we were 1076 00:56:58.539 --> 00:57:01.090 A:middle L:90% gonna start to flip classroom, we had to all 1077 00:57:01.090 --> 00:57:05.349 A:middle L:90% get together all the folks that teach the freshman biology 1078 00:57:05.730 --> 00:57:09.159 A:middle L:90% and decide obviously which lessons we're gonna use and make 1079 00:57:09.159 --> 00:57:12.199 A:middle L:90% sure we're all on the same page there. But 1080 00:57:12.199 --> 00:57:15.650 A:middle L:90% we had to record the lectures, we had to 1081 00:57:15.659 --> 00:57:19.949 A:middle L:90% make lectures for all these courses. Then we had 1082 00:57:19.960 --> 00:57:22.170 A:middle L:90% to, and luckily we hired a couple graduate students 1083 00:57:22.170 --> 00:57:24.929 A:middle L:90% for this. We had to come up with activities 1084 00:57:24.940 --> 00:57:28.929 A:middle L:90% 15 activities every time we go to class, their 1085 00:57:28.929 --> 00:57:31.380 A:middle L:90% activities you've got to do. And so those two 1086 00:57:31.380 --> 00:57:37.030 A:middle L:90% things were a huge issue and then we had Washington 1087 00:57:37.039 --> 00:57:39.210 A:middle L:90% issues, uh they were part of there were big 1088 00:57:39.219 --> 00:57:42.210 A:middle L:90% , big part of the and then we had to 1089 00:57:42.210 --> 00:57:46.739 A:middle L:90% make up my clicker questions for all of the mini 1090 00:57:46.739 --> 00:57:51.480 A:middle L:90% lecturers, so to speak. And so that behind 1091 00:57:51.480 --> 00:57:53.389 A:middle L:90% the scenes stuff was nightmares. It took forever and 1092 00:57:53.389 --> 00:57:57.769 A:middle L:90% ever, never, never, never we are all 1093 00:57:57.780 --> 00:58:04.369 A:middle L:90% using don't get me started on Scholar. We're using 1094 00:58:04.369 --> 00:58:09.539 A:middle L:90% Scholar as everybody else's scholars. Got more issues. 1095 00:58:10.219 --> 00:58:15.079 A:middle L:90% Then I'd care to chat about. Ever. One 1096 00:58:15.079 --> 00:58:19.800 A:middle L:90% of the issues we have is our teaching assistants are 1097 00:58:19.809 --> 00:58:29.639 A:middle L:90% undergraduates and undergraduate students cannot have access to Scholar because 1098 00:58:29.650 --> 00:58:31.130 A:middle L:90% all of the students ID numbers, it's a purple 1099 00:58:31.130 --> 00:58:37.849 A:middle L:90% thing. Um, so we have to create Excel 1100 00:58:37.849 --> 00:58:42.050 A:middle L:90% spreadsheets templates that are sent to the undergraduate to as 1101 00:58:42.050 --> 00:58:45.400 A:middle L:90% they grade the activities with the rubric. We provide 1102 00:58:45.400 --> 00:58:47.260 A:middle L:90% them with the rivers and then they send them back 1103 00:58:47.269 --> 00:58:51.730 A:middle L:90% to me and then I upload them and that's what 1104 00:58:51.730 --> 00:58:55.090 A:middle L:90% I did all morning on for two activities. So 1105 00:58:55.099 --> 00:58:59.119 A:middle L:90% just, maybe we should talk later. I've been 1106 00:58:59.119 --> 00:59:02.940 A:middle L:90% using the Bt google apps, which is google classroom 1107 00:59:06.320 --> 00:59:10.429 A:middle L:90% dr Yeah, a universe there. Yeah. And 1108 00:59:10.429 --> 00:59:13.360 A:middle L:90% we don't, you know, we've heard and you 1109 00:59:13.360 --> 00:59:16.380 A:middle L:90% all probably heard the same thing that scholar is on 1110 00:59:16.380 --> 00:59:19.809 A:middle L:90% its way out. And so that just gives us 1111 00:59:19.809 --> 00:59:22.150 A:middle L:90% one more thing to learn with all of our free 1112 00:59:22.150 --> 00:59:24.969 A:middle L:90% time. Mhm. And so we'll see what that 1113 00:59:24.980 --> 00:59:29.590 A:middle L:90% thing is. I'm in the classroom. It works 1114 00:59:29.590 --> 00:59:31.679 A:middle L:90% wonderfully. I mean, the active part of the 1115 00:59:31.690 --> 00:59:37.849 A:middle L:90% classroom, I'm a huge fan. Yes, A 1116 00:59:37.860 --> 00:59:42.139 A:middle L:90% chance to experiment much space. You saw a traditional 1117 00:59:42.150 --> 00:59:45.869 A:middle L:90% lecture hall, The amount of students you have a 1118 00:59:46.079 --> 00:59:50.389 A:middle L:90% very limited options for. Exactly, that's one of 1119 00:59:50.389 --> 00:59:52.980 A:middle L:90% the things we're battling with right now, because I've 1120 00:59:52.980 --> 00:59:55.059 A:middle L:90% got a class of 220 but in order to make 1121 00:59:55.059 --> 00:59:58.119 A:middle L:90% this active classroom work for the kids to be able 1122 00:59:58.119 --> 01:00:00.070 A:middle L:90% to get around, move around, I need a 1123 01:00:00.070 --> 01:00:04.750 A:middle L:90% class that really speaks about 304 100 we've only got 1124 01:00:05.019 --> 01:00:07.539 A:middle L:90% So many spaces around you. We can do that 1125 01:00:07.550 --> 01:00:08.440 A:middle L:90% . I'm in the M and Goodwin right now. 1126 01:00:08.440 --> 01:00:12.090 A:middle L:90% What, 90? And it's beautiful for that. 1127 01:00:12.099 --> 01:00:15.679 A:middle L:90% It's perfectly because you can actually walk in between all 1128 01:00:15.679 --> 01:00:17.389 A:middle L:90% the aisles and the kids all move around in groups 1129 01:00:17.389 --> 01:00:21.019 A:middle L:90% and stuff. But you're right, we've got three 1130 01:00:21.019 --> 01:00:22.630 A:middle L:90% or four places that we know we can go to 1131 01:00:22.639 --> 01:00:31.530 A:middle L:90% make this work. You're welcome. All right.